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Post by Impin Aint Easy on Nov 8, 2012 13:19:54 GMT -5
Dont believe everything you read kid..
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Post by Reed735 on Nov 8, 2012 13:22:30 GMT -5
But havent you seen that allstate commerical that you can't put something on the internet if it isn't true. What is this world coming to if you can't believe everything you read.
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Post by STROMI 121 on Nov 8, 2012 13:44:13 GMT -5
Im a French model...lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 14:25:50 GMT -5
Haha, yes. I've seen that one.. She could've been more attractive..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 14:44:29 GMT -5
Does washing fluid have methanol in it?
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Post by bluecrew72 on Nov 8, 2012 14:55:10 GMT -5
Can we just let this one die now??? it was some good discussion and info until 14 posts ago
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Post by disturbed01 on Nov 8, 2012 14:56:36 GMT -5
Does washing fluid have methanol in it? the winter blend usually does but only around 10% the rest is basically water good luck running anything off of it,
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 15:39:03 GMT -5
Can we just let this one die now??? it was some good discussion and info until 14 posts ago Okay, I'm sorry for asking questions and trying to learn. I'm done with you man. I thought this forum was to learn? Does washing fluid have methanol in it? the winter blend usually does but only around 10% the rest is basically water good luck running anything off of it, Okay, that's all I needed. Thanks.
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Post by residentcheater on Nov 8, 2012 16:51:22 GMT -5
All motors DO NOT run better on higher octane fuels... You only need as much octane as it takes to safely prevent detonation.. Just because someone is running alcohol , it does NOT mean they are going to use 50% more fuel. And to whomever stated that alcohol is being banned because of safety issues , that statement is just plain false.. Safety issues is exactly why Indy cars are mandated to run alcohol.. Alcohol is very much safer than high octane race fuels.. It burns slower , and with the additives that are usually added ( or you can add yourself ) it burns with a yellow tip flame.. When race fuel explodes , it does so with a much more violent explosion than alcohol .. Please , please get your facts straight before posting fairy tales .. And what ever the case , airplane fuel is the worst thing you could run.. Airplane fuel is formulated to reduce weight ... Fuel has a heavy end , and a light end .. In airplane fuel , the heavy end is practically eliminated.. Which makes the fuel lighter , so its easier for planes to get off the ground and reduce weight.. With that said , you can think of the heavy end like an oak log , and the light end as a sheet of newspaper... So airplane engines are designed to burn airplane fuel at the light end and the higher altitudes.. A SBC , SBF, or mopar does not run efficiently on airplane fuel.. But what do I know .. Iam just the derbydummy.. Check to see if my comment isn't fact before you express opinions though.. There is some good info here but some things I will disagree with, everyone has right to there own thoughts There is a pretty good chance that it will burn 50% more (1.5 times normal) not a full 100% (2 times as much) more that's a fact Yes IF additives added it makes the flame have a yellow TIP still hard to see bottom line. At the end of the day, if the motor is not built for ally OR E85 you are not taking advantage of the fuel for its power. In short compression ratio is highly related to power, compression ration is related to cylinder gas temps and THAT is what is going to dictate the fuel you NEED More octane doesn't = more power Octane = how hot can I get the cylinder before it detonates, using e85 or alky makes that achievable easier and cheaper than using high octane race fuel with the added advantage of cooler intake temp. Money can be far better spent for beginners in other areas than this especially if the engine ISN'T BUILT FOR IT bottom line - First off: Methanol or Alcohol also should be used with upper cylinder lube, and will provide some color to the flame. -Second: Indy Car runs methanol but it has little to due with safety as they run 99.9% pure, which has no color when it burns. -Third: The advantage for a sanctioning body for using pure methanol is it is easy to test for additives (cheating), now granted any idiot can smell nitro but there are plenty of other things. -Fourth: If you do run methanol in a derby car without a min. two layer fire suit you are not real bright, mainly for the fact it will take you rolling around on the ground for someone to figure out your on fire. -Fifth: Methanol does burn at cooler temperature than gasoline. -Sixth: Anytime you put anything higher than 87-91 octane in a stock motor you are pissing money away. -Seventh: with the price of everything else for a derby car these days there is plenty of other things you can spend money on.
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Post by bluecrew72 on Nov 8, 2012 18:37:48 GMT -5
Can we just let this one die now??? it was some good discussion and info until 14 posts ago Okay, I'm sorry for asking questions and trying to learn. I'm done with you man. I thought this forum was to learn? So you really learning from asking a ridiculous question about a "cool running gas mixture" and having people bash you?? A little pre research goes a long way. www.davisonoil.com/Material%20Safety%20Data%20Sheet%20MB%20WINTER%20BLEND.htm Second result of a google search for winter blend washer fluid mix... Hmm has water and only 33% methanol , probably not the best to run a engine on, second google search of the octane rating of latern fuel returns a result of 50-55 octane hmm not good either...see a little presearch would keep your self from getting bashed
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Post by derbydummy on Nov 8, 2012 18:42:51 GMT -5
Beginning in 1965, pure methanol was used widespread in USAC Indy car competition, which at the time included the Indianapolis 500. A seven-car crash on the second lap of the 1964 Indianapolis 500 resulted in USAC's decision to encourage, and later mandate, the use of methanol. Eddie Sachs and Dave MacDonald died in the crash when their gasoline-fueled cars exploded. The gasoline-triggered fire created a dangerous cloud of thick black smoke that completely blocked the view of the track for oncoming cars. Johnny Rutherford, one of the other drivers involved, drove a methanol-fueled car, which also leaked following the crash. While this car burned from the impact of the first fireball, it formed a much smaller inferno than the gasoline cars, and one that burned invisibly. That testimony, and pressure from Indianapolis Star writer George Moore, led to the switch to alcohol fuel in 1965. Thats why indy switched to methanol ... And they switched 100% because of safty.. Facts .. Post facts please !!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 18:59:41 GMT -5
Okay, I'm sorry for asking questions and trying to learn. I'm done with you man. I thought this forum was to learn? So you really learning from asking a ridiculous question about a "cool running gas mixture" and having people bash you?? A little pre research goes a long way. www.davisonoil.com/Material%20Safety%20Data%20Sheet%20MB%20WINTER%20BLEND.htm Second result of a google search for winter blend washer fluid mix... Hmm has water and only 33% methanol , probably not the best to run a engine on, second google search of the octane rating of latern fuel returns a result of 50-55 octane hmm not good either...see a little presearch would keep your self from getting bashed Yeah, I am learning about the different fuels and the pros and cons. But the bashing part doesn't have to be there, it's just what you guys do.
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Post by Reed735 on Nov 8, 2012 19:21:05 GMT -5
I just took a video of 99.85%+\- methanol burning with no additive added I just took it out of my barrel and it burns blue if some one knows how to get it posted I can email or text it I can't get it to post might be large of file I don't know
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 19:43:25 GMT -5
Did you try uploading it to YouTube first? I'd be interested in seeing it..
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Post by Reed735 on Nov 8, 2012 19:46:08 GMT -5
I've never put anything on you tube I can email it to you if you know how
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