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Post by norton81 on Sept 23, 2016 16:54:20 GMT -5
Can they be compared to a clamshell wagon or not as tough? I'm gonna shorten front frame hard nose the front with stock bumper gonna lightly load it and seam weld it before it goes on. Jack up front make solid. 1 inch all thread through core support four point cages replace all body bolts and have sitting on frame relief cuts on rear. Unless I leaf it which I think I can rules don't say u can't.could this be a caddy oand imp killer? Thanks
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Post by fordpowerforever on Sept 26, 2016 10:42:47 GMT -5
Can they be compared to a clamshell wagon or not as tough? I'm gonna shorten front frame hard nose the front with stock bumper gonna lightly load it and seam weld it before it goes on. Jack up front make solid. 1 inch all thread through core support four point cages replace all body bolts and have sitting on frame relief cuts on rear. Unless I leaf it which I think I can rules don't say u can't.could this be a caddy oand imp killer? Thanks no...never sorry.
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Post by norton81 on Sept 27, 2016 2:59:48 GMT -5
I figured good car. O well build it and see what happens I guess even leafing it won't make it a good competitive car just a lot of imps and caddys are around where I run and just so damn tuff lol can't ever catch a break I guess
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Post by norton81 on Sept 27, 2016 3:00:42 GMT -5
Can't afford the imps and caddys kinda sucks
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Post by STROMI 121 on Sept 27, 2016 11:47:03 GMT -5
Build it to the best of your abilities and go have fun.
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Post by lincoln on Sept 27, 2016 15:04:29 GMT -5
If you can leaf it properly and build the front the way it should be, you'll have a pretty stout car.
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Post by norton81 on Sept 27, 2016 22:27:46 GMT -5
Ok guys thanks I'll give her a good rip. is stock carb on those good or replace it with edelbrock 600 four Barrl it's all I have to use
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Post by norton81 on Sept 27, 2016 22:36:26 GMT -5
Although I got a few months t work on it so I should have a good build. Is stock bumper good enough lightly loaded an hard nosed or different bumper choice? My cousin has a loaded Vic bumper heavy. Impala 74,75 not sure or Chrysler pointy. Can they handle a pointy or to much bumper?
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Post by improse on Sept 29, 2016 23:57:13 GMT -5
Loaded bumper will bend that stock frame very quickly,unless u just do 3 foot/tire hits only.
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Post by metalman187x on Sept 30, 2016 5:42:13 GMT -5
ive never built one of these but a buddy of mine ran a 74 mercury wagon 3 times 2 of them against imperials and it made me want one to be able to leaf because the bodies are so tough that the humps cant hold up to the strenth of the body. they stay straight and pinch the humps in stock form and plow the track cause the roof gives and pulls down right at the rear window pillar at the middle of the wheel well when the humps go but the rest of the body and frame is usually pretty straight. the rules in my area allow leaf conversions 8 springs max, 4 clamps and one 6x6x1/4 inch plate per frame rail on fresh cars and no other frame welding other than bumpers. the idea i got from looking at how my buddys bent is to use chevy rear 1/2 ton springs with one clamp between the front eye and center pin and 4 between the rear eye and center pin with the the thick main on the bottom removed to give them more arch and they are longer than most spring packs whick is good since these cars dont have a package tray like other coil sping cars of the same era. once the bumper brackets are welded on it should bend between the spring hangers and the bumper brackets with the rear spring eyelet up against the frame and the humps plated and chained. i think it will want to belly at the front spring hanger because the arch in the springs will get the assend sitting up really high and it will probaly need hydraulic power to push them down to ride height to be able to chain the humps if you use 1/2 ton truck springs. i had to when i put them on my 58 wagon. leave it coil sprung and weaken the body and roof unless you can chain the humps. the preloaded leafs pushing back up against the humps so it has no other place to bend but the spots i mentioned is the key so you dont have to weaken the body and roof. i think it would tent like an early 70s mopar wagon without hump chains and/or plates if you leafed it with arched leafs but didnt chain or plate the humps. all of this is theory since all i have done with these so far is look at them when it comes to derbying them but i think it should work good with how i see them bend when they are stock
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Post by norton81 on Oct 4, 2016 14:41:58 GMT -5
So what's the major difference in frame compared to other cars? I was thought the front looked pretty hefty
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Post by justforfun1973 on Oct 4, 2016 18:09:08 GMT -5
So what's the major difference in frame compared to other cars? I was thought the front looked pretty hefty As far as the 80's and newer. Not that I know of. I'm pretty sure they are the same as sedans upfront.
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Post by norton81 on Oct 4, 2016 19:32:54 GMT -5
Just wondering about frame because some stated it would nose hard and quick with a loaded bumper
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Post by rhull1977 on Oct 4, 2016 22:10:06 GMT -5
Just wondering about frame because some stated it would nose hard and quick with a loaded bumper The horns on 70s Fords are small and bend quick. If rules allow the right set up they are tough. I have run loaded bumpers on the front with no issues with them nosing up.
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Post by norton81 on Oct 5, 2016 12:42:44 GMT -5
Ok I can shorten frame and hard nose my rules allow it so all good there. Any good number of inches to cut off front horns?
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