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Post by pasterofmuppets on Dec 4, 2012 6:00:36 GMT -5
I didn't see a section specifically for this, if there is one, Mods delete please, but I am continuously getting PM's about Slider Drive Shafts with the same questions. So I figured a section should be devoted to them specifically.
The main question I get is "How does the pinion attach to the transmission without pulling itself out?"
I also get "I see all these shafts in the gear forum but they have bolt on ends on both ends, how does the shaft turn?"
A lot less asked, but still mentioned is "which design do you trust more, square, tri-oval, or round?"
I am not by any means a Slider shaft expert, but there are plenty of guys on here that are, so I will continue to leave those questions and others to be answered by people who know what they are talking about. I have made my own for years and have never seen the need to buy aftermarket from a dealer on here, but some of these guys are making shafts for the same price or cheaper than what it takes me to make mine so I am looking into them. I don't wanna steer someone in the wrong direction. So guys with knowledge, please comment and help the community out.
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Post by pasterofmuppets on Dec 7, 2012 17:27:37 GMT -5
Well since no one else will help these guys out, guess I will try.
Q: How does the yoke attach to the transmission in a way that it won't pull out from the rear of the transmission?
A: Much like the yoke on a 400th (the rear shaft of the transmission is drilled and thread tapped), and inside the yoke is a washer with a threaded bolt that attaches the driveshaft front yoke to the transmission. This same application can be transferred to other makes and models of transmissions by drilling and tapping the rear transmission shaft (usually 7/16") but I have seen other sizes. When you purchase a slider from a reputable dealer, most do not come with the front yoke, and you will need to purchase/manufactur one that fits your application. Different transmission have different size and different splined input shafts.
Q: I see all these I see all these shafts in the gear forum but they have bolt on ends on both ends, how does the shaft turn?
A: The slider is missing the front yoke that is specific to your make and model of transmission. Check out Nerat's section in the gear forum for what you need.
Q: Which design do you trust more, square, round or tri-oval?
A: I don't trust square sliders because they aren't balanced, tend to twist over time, and usually end up tearing something up (that's just my opinion). I haven't tried the tri-oval style yet but haven't heard anything bad about them yet and plan on purchasing a few myself to try out this season. I have went with round in the past and haven't had problems with them, especially the splined and balanced versions provided by Nerat. If I were purchasing my first slider I would try out Elvis' E-2 slider (more cost effective and like I said above have not hear anything bad about them), but if you have the money to spend, Nerat is the way to go.
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Post by cheater111 on Dec 7, 2012 22:20:53 GMT -5
I have a andy hanson square slider and works great. I know its not balnaced but havent we all had to cut and remake. drive shafts that aint balanced. i cant tell a differance of it not being balanced. What i didnt like bout the splined is the it dont slide but 10-12 inches my square slides the whole length. but i do like that its splined. hanson,e2,nerat there all great products and does there job just differant prices. each to there own as to want you buy.
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Post by XtremeMopar#307 on Dec 8, 2012 2:17:33 GMT -5
I have a square style BSR with 3 runs on it and absolutely zero complaints also bought an e2 and have 1 run on that, can't complain about that either... ill use the BSR for shorter cars and the E2 for my old iron cars
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Post by tmi5 on Dec 9, 2012 13:12:02 GMT -5
I've got 2 nerat circle splined sliders with probably a dozen runs on each and I have no complaints always got the job donefor me
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Post by burgess16t on Dec 12, 2012 15:48:45 GMT -5
nerat all the way!! ive had mine for one season and it payed for itself the second run i had with it when i tore both the upper and lower control arm of on the passager rear and didnt even realize it. Hell it helped i think cause i had no steering but i had rear steer up the ass.
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Post by STROMI 121 on Dec 12, 2012 16:04:43 GMT -5
There are many different brands/styles to choose from. personally I love my nerat sliders.
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Post by CADDISMASH180 on Dec 12, 2012 20:21:16 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with a Woodrow square shaft, on my second one. Sold the first one when I sold out a few yearsback, 10 years old, well over 40 derby's and it is still in use. The one I have now I have ran in a newstyle with a long tail transmission, and a suicide door with a short tail transmission, and its not balanced, have no complaints whatsoever.
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Post by 383 Sonoma on Dec 18, 2012 21:16:02 GMT -5
I've heard of a few tri oval ones breaking a few years ago... but that was just hearsay...personally.... i've had a big rock square shaft for 3 years.... it's been in vics and old iron... and had upwards of 500 horse in front of it... during my last run on it i lost 2 trailing arms at the beginning of the feature.... and ran it down to 4th place with it rubbing the floor and digging in the dirt. never let me down and has brought me a lot of money home....
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Post by lowvic33 on Dec 18, 2012 21:29:14 GMT -5
Probably a dumb question but why are the prices a good bit apart from each guy who makes them and they all pretty much do the same thing? And I have a E2 for my new styles and Hanson for 70s and both work fine.
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Post by drphiluponya55xr on Dec 21, 2012 17:45:09 GMT -5
Please please please don't waste ur time or money on a tri oval had one behind a 300 hp 327 hit it once and twisted and ripped and destroyed the floor.... Scary situation stick with splined or square IMO!
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Post by troytagvtown on Dec 21, 2012 21:44:12 GMT -5
I need to know where to get the parts to make a slider..Sq or spline..they don't look too tough to make.. Anyone have a part number or supply house?
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Post by wdrw9402 on Dec 22, 2012 17:54:16 GMT -5
weasler part #s 10003560 OR 10003548 604-3500 701-3500 500-3500 200-3500 705-3500
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Post by pasterofmuppets on Dec 23, 2012 0:12:54 GMT -5
If there is a tractor supply company near where you live you can get just about everything your need also.
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Post by napalm72 on Dec 29, 2012 9:51:17 GMT -5
I built my own and saved $200. I used nerat ends but I got the shaft from John Deere. You can get about any length you want. A rule of thumb about a Shaft is to only have it extended 1/3 of the length of the shaft which will keep it from bending. I have four runs on mine with no problems.
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