Post by perrycofair on Aug 29, 2023 20:11:25 GMT -5
perry county il fall cleanup show 9/30/23
note you are allowed 6 patch plates as listed below for this cleanup show only
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Mini Weld Rules
Payouts
$750
$400
$150
MadDog $100
Entry Fee $50
Perry County Fair Derby
Mini Weld
General Rules
These rules apply to all classes for the Perry County Fair derby.
1. Top five in the feature must actively compete at the end, no driving yourself on barriers or dirt
berms. Failure to comply could result in complete restart with all feature qualifiers actively
competing again or disqualification.
2. No reinforcements allowed other than specified in these rules. Any metal added to reinforce
the car is illegal. You will only be allowed 2 trips through the inspection line.
3. NO PAINTING, UNDERCOATING, OILING OR GREASING OF FRAMES. YOU WILL
NOT BE INSPECTED. THIS INCLUDES PAINTING OF THE FRAME FLAT BLACK.
4. NO HITTING IN DRIVERS’ DOOR, but also no using the driver door as a shield. If the hit is
deemed by the official to be careless or intentional, you will be disqualified. If you use your
driver’s door as a defense, we will not enforce the rules. If you use the door as a defense
repeatedly you will be disqualified. This will be at the judges’ discretion.
5. NO hot-rodding in the pits! Keep it at an idle.
6. You must make AGGRESSIVE contact every 60 seconds.
7. Sandbagging is not tolerated and will be strictly enforced. Locking up the brakes prior to a hit
for anything other than a driver’s door will be cause for disqualification. The fans pay to see a
show, put one on for them!
8. IF YOU THINK SOMEONE IS SANDBAGGING, HIT THEIR CAR WITH YOUR CAR
ON THE TRACK.
9. Winning cars plus three out of the money must remain on track until released by officials or
will not be paid prize money. Cars are subject to re-inspection before any prize money is handed
out. Cars found illegal will be stripped of all prize money for that event.
10. Any questions or controversies will be discussed at the drivers meeting
11. YOU MUST HAVE AT LEAST A 12” X 12” ROOF SIGN WITH YOUR CARS LEGIBLE
NUMBER ON IT. If this is not able to be accomplished, at minimum your car number must be
visible on the roof (for the announcer stand) and on the sides of door.
12. All drivers must pick up earnings at the completion of the event, or forfeit. They will not be
available after that date.
13. All persons MUST sign entry form, insurance waiver, release form, pay entry fees, and
purchase pit pass before entering pit area. Be prepared to present a valid driver’s license at entry.
All driver’s winning prize money will be required to provide a social security number to receive
your check.
14. THERE IS NO ALCOHOL IN THE PITS. This includes pit crews. If you or ANY of your
crew is caught with alcohol, you will be disqualified.
15. No harassing of the judges will be allowed at any time by drivers, passengers, crew members
or spectators. Failure to abide by this rule, the driver will forfeit all money, and all involved will
be escorted from premises.
16. Registration forms will be filled out the day of the event, or through online pre registration.
All drivers must be at least 16 years of age; drivers 16 and 17 must have a parent or legal
guardian sign a minor release form. All drivers must be able to present a valid driver's license at
the time of registration.
17. All drivers must wear approved helmets, eye protection either safety glasses or visor on
helmet, long pants, and shirt. Also, all drivers and riders must wear working seat belts. This will
be enforced in 2023 or you will not run!!!!
18. - Drivers must remain in the vehicle with helmet, seat belt and eye protection on until
notified by an official that it is safe to exit the vehicle.
19. A driver that receives a black flag for an intentional door hit will be disqualified from all
competition for that night. A driver that receives a black flag for sandbagging or 1 fire in the
interior of the car will be disqualified. 2 fires on the exterior will be disqualified, if in heat you
may go to consolation. This will be at the judges’ discretion.
20. This is not a team event; team driving will not be tolerated
21. All drivers must attend drivers’ meeting prior to derby
22. All cars must be removed from the derby site by 12:00 noon the following day unless
otherwise stated at the drivers meeting. Failure to do this will result in cars being removed by
and becoming property of the Perry County Fair Board.
23. DO NOT paint anywhere on suspension or frame; if we can tell it has been painted, we will
not even inspect your car.
24.ALL SUNROOFS MUST BE COVERED WITH A THIN SHEET OF METAL, I.E.
WELDED OR BOLTED (WITH BOLT HEAD INSIDE THE CAR) OR RIVETED. NO # 9 wire
or chain to accomplish this will be allowed.
Mini Weld Rules
Fall Show ONLY
1. 6 patch plates max
Front wheel drive only
1. Must be powered by four- or six-cylinder engine
2. Wheelbase must be 110 inches or less. NO EXCEPTIONS!
A. NO moving/bending a stock or aftermarket component to shorten wheelbase.
3. No four-wheel drive vehicles.
4. MANDATORY! All four/six-cylinder cars must have a cage. Four point minimum.
5. Stock gas tank MUST be removed.
A. Battery and gas tank must be tight when coming through the inspection line or you won’t be
inspected.
6. All lines under the car must be steel lines or if running rubber lines, they must be inside of the
car.
7. If OEM bumper had no bolts, homemade bumper brackets may go six (6) inches from the
back side of the bumper.
8. Built struts allowed, must be stock appearing
9. No kickers
10. No aftermarket or homemade cradle or extreme cradle or pullet protector
ALL JUDGES DECISIONS ARE FINAL
1. Cars previously run in Demolition Derby may install new front clip. Any clip may be used on
any car, MUST be installed in stock manner. Officials MUST approve installation.
2. All glass, side windows, rear windows, headlights and taillights, must be removed before
reaching the track. Rolling down windows is not permitted. Remove all glass mirrors and plastic.
Remove all decking in wagons. Vehicles must be swept clean of all debris
3. Rear seat of sedan must be removed, top and bottom. On station wagons all seats and decking
must be removed. Station wagons must be emptied to floorboards. All cars must be swept clean,
both the driver compartment and trunk. No spare tires, broken glass, or trash, etc., allowed in
cars.
4. Cars must have a seat belt and working brakes. MANDATORY!!
5. You can carry a fire extinguisher, but it must be mounted securely and free of movement.
6. Battery may be moved but must be securely fastened and covered in the passenger
compartment. MAXIMUM OF TWO AUTOMOBILE TYPE BATTERIES ALLOWED. Battery
and gas tank must be tight when coming through the inspection line or you won’t be inspected.
7. Any type of automotive radiator may be used but must be mounted in stock position. NO
RESERVE TANKS. A radiator cradle is allowed made of 1/8” metal 1” wider than the radiator.
Bolted only to the car and nothing in front of the radiator. AFTERMARKET OR HOME-MADE
RADIATOR CRADLE.
A. Front rad. screen max. Thickest 3/8” thick, bolted or 4 1” welds.
8. Fenders may be bolted together with 3/8-inch bolts or smaller with 3/8 inch or smaller washers
only. A maximum of 10 bolts per fender.
9. All doors may be welded (Outside of body only), chained or wired. Straps cannot be larger
than ¼” thick and 4 inches wide on door shell (vertical) and 2 inches wide on the window frame.
You may beat the top of doors down and may tack them in three places with a maximum of 1”
weld each.
10. No doubling of body panels allowed; no added metal allowed.
11. Patching floorboards, if you have to patch rusty floorboards you must cut out all the rust,
overlap no more than 1” with the same thickness as body material and sheet metal screws – no
more than one every 4”. No Welding to floorboards or firewall.
12. You may crease/enhance sheet metal body panels but do not fold and weld. No extra metal
may be added.
13. NO OTHER BODY WELDS OTHER THAN WHAT IS LISTED ABOVE. THIS
INCLUDES BODY SEAMS ANYWHERE ON THE CAR.
14. ALL SUNROOFS MUST BE COVERED WITH A THIN SHEET OF METAL, I.E.
WELDED OR BOLTED (WITH BOLT HEAD INSIDE THE CAR) OR RIVETED. No #9 wire
or chain to accomplish this will be allowed.
HOODS AND TRUNKS
MUST BE OPEN AT INSPECTION! So don’t come to the inspection line with the hood bolted
down….
1. HOODS: must have two (2) holes, at least four (4) inches in diameter on each side of the
carburetor – Not directly on top of the carburetor. IF HOOD IS REMOVED, EITHER FAN
BLADE MUST BE REMOVED OR FAN BELT MUST BE CUT.
2. NO SECOND ALL THREAD WELDED TO SIDE OF THE FRAME AND RAN
THROUGH THE AT MID POINT OF THE HOOD.
3. On all cars, hoods, trunks, and tailgates may be secured with the following method: on front of
car, two pieces of 1 inch all thread, NO SLEEVING, can have a 4” or less spacer free floating or
welded between core support and frame, with a washer no larger than six (6) inches O.D. and 3/8
inch thick, all threads MUST be mounted outboard of the radiator. In addition to all threads, six
(6) 1-inch O.D. bolts with a washer no larger than six (6) inches O.D. and 3/8 inch thick, or you
may use angle iron back-to-back with a bolt through it. Angle iron cannot be more than 3/16
thick or longer than 6 inches. Three on each side of the car, a total of six. Total of 6 bolts and 2
up front all threads holding the hood down and any amount of wire or cable. All wire, or cable
MUST be mounted outboard of the radiator. A maximum of 20 bolts 3/8 inch or smaller are
allowed to bolt together hood seams.
TRUNK 4 pieces of 5/8 inch all thread, with a washer no larger than six (6) inches O.D. and 3/8
inch thick, all threads may be mounted through deck lid and frame anywhere in the trunk, can be
welded to the frame or in body mount holes. In addition to all threads, you may weld the trunk 5
on 5 off, Straps should not be larger than ¼” thick or 4 inches wide or six (6) 1-inch O.D. bolts
with a washer no larger than six (6) inches O.D. and 3/8 inch thick, or 10 3/8” bolts in the drip
rail, not both one or the other and any amount of wire or cable. If the trunk is welded it must
have a 12” hole in the trunk lid. On station wagons two pieces of 1 inch all thread, with a washer
no larger than six (6) inches O.D. and 3/8 inch thick, all threads may be used in the rear through
roof and stock body mount replacing existing bolt.
TAILGATE weld 5 on 5 off, Straps should not be larger than ¼” thick or 4 inches wide or six (6)
1-inches O.D. bolts with a washer no larger than six (6) inches O.D. and 3/8 inch thick, and any
amount of wire or cable. YOU CAN WELD WASHERS (no bigger than 5/8 washer and must be
at least 12” apart) TO THE BODY TO RUN WIRE THROUGH.
A. No carburetor protector outside the intake area or DP.
B. You may have rear window bar 2”X2”X1/4” MAX. IN SIZE, 6” max. on roof 4”X4”X1/4”
FLAT PLATE TO ATTACH TO THIS BAR TOP AND BOTTOM and must be centered on front
side drip rail on trunk no further back (2” on each side). Weld to the strapping on your trunk.
There must be 6” minimum distance (gap) from the top of this bar on the roof and halo bar….
This is the only location allowed for this bar.
BODY MOUNTS
1. All body mount bolts may be replaced with 1/2-inch O.D. bolts with a stamped washer. Do not
take them out and place the body on frame. If replaced, a gap of 1” minimum is mandatory
between body and frame. You may replace it with a stack of washers, or one piece of anything
solid, as long as it is about the same diameter as the factory bushing. Do NOT crush factory body
bushings. Body mount bolts inside the passenger compartment that are close together may have
one washer six (6) inches x twelve (12) inches, must have two (2) or more body mount bolts
through washer. You may add two (2) additional body mount bolts per side inside the passenger
compartment. All all-threads MUST have nuts on top and bottom and NO welds.
4. A minimum of one chain or wire running from the outside (top) of roof down to the cowl or
BAR DOWN TO DASH BAR OF CAGE on the front window is MANDATORY for safety.
Maximum of two. IF YOU HAVE A PASSENGER MUST HAVE 2. IF USING METAL
STRAPS MAX. SIZE 2” WIDE X ¼” THICK, 12” ID APART. CAN GO TO FRONT DASH
BAR OR COWL THEN TO TOP LIP AREA OF WINDSHIELD ONLY.
CAGE AND HALO BARS
1. All driver and passenger doors may be reinforced. You should have a six (6)-point cage,
MINIMUM OF A 4PT. CAGE. cross bars may be run as follows, one across dash, one behind
front seats, and one in rear seat area, 3rd bar must stay inside of interior of rear drivers
compartment nothing past front of package tray. Nothing can be added to the bottom of this bar.
2. You can run four (4) down tubes, two (2) per side. 2 of these down tubes must be mounted in
the following way on each side(MANDATORY), 1 down tube must be to flat part of the frame
no further forward than the inner front door seam, with a max distance of 2’ from the same
measuring point. Lower door bars are allowed between down tubes that must be 6 inches or more
above the top of the frame. NOTHING OUT OF DRIVERS’ COMPARTMENT. You can have a
steel plate between the cage and front doors. Must be securely fastened to the cage. Front bar
must be mounted no more than 2” below the bottom of the front window seal and be no more
than 4” in diameter. Must have 6” between front bar and center of firewall on a fresh car. Front
bar cannot be attached to the firewall at any time. ALL DOWN TUBES MUST BE BEHIND
DASH BAR, STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN AND ON FLAT PART OF FRAME. CAN NOT
GO TO BODY MOUNT BOXES. NO KICKERS TO REAR HUMPS. NOTHING OUT OF
REAR DRIVERS COMPARTMENT. You cannot weld anything to the front bar protruding
toward the distributor protector. No grater blades, metal plates or tubing on exterior of body
(driver & passenger doors).
3. Halo bars are allowed. Can be attached to the bar behind your seat or could be run to the frame
but it would be counted as one of your down tubes. There must be a 6” minimum distance (gap)
from the halo bar and the top of your rear window bar…. Nothing can be attached to halo bar
4. This is not mandatory, but we encourage everyone to put a steel plate between the cage and
front driver and passenger doors. Thickness of metal is up to the driver. Must be securely
attached to the cage, must be 2” off of the floor, this is for protection not reinforcement.
FRAME
1. DO NOT REWELD ENGINE CROSS MEMBER SEAMS OR ANY OTHER BRACKETS
ATTACHED TO FRAME OR SHEET METAL under hood or trunk. NO CONCRETE!!! DO
NOT WELD FACTORY HOLES UP; ALL FACTORY HOLES MUST BE OPEN FOR
INSPECTION OF FRAME.
2. You cannot alter the frame in any way other than specified in rules. Do not crease or reshape
the frame.
3. You may run one (1) wire or chain from frame rail to frame rail underneath the back of the car
behind back tires/wheels.
4. You may put a bolt with a stamped flat washer thru frame to hold it together. Only one (1) per
wheel opening must be loose during inspection. DO NOT weld washer. (Pinning of frame)
5. You may notch the frame for minimal pre-bending, but do NOT weld the cut.
6. If changing the front stub, cut 3 inches behind the second cross member bolt hole. When
replacing, it can overlap 2 ½”, able to weld both sides, but no adding of extra metal. Must be of
the same make and model.
7. If restubbing one side of the frame, you are allowed to cut and fit the new frame flush and
weld one pass all the way around (butt – fit – weld). Must be of the same make and model.
8. All trailer hitches MUST be totally removed.
9. THIS INCLUDES MINI’S: If running a used car prior to this derby, you are allowed 4 patch
plates max. Size 4”x4”x1/4”. Must be painted a bright color. So, it is easily noticed for the
inspectors. AFTER INSPECTION OR HEATS NO WELDING THESE PLATES ON. IF
ADDITIONAL PLATES ARE FOUND AFTER INSPECTION – NO MONEY WILL PAID
OUT
10. Attachment of lower front sub frame to body, can use only chain 3/8” or smaller, can weld
the links at each end for attachment points. But on a used/preran car you can use a metal strap,
but each one counts toward/as your patch plates
11. No plates on fresh cars to fix/patch rust holes, unless it’s a preran/used car then follow patch
plate rule.
BUMPERS
1. Any OEM shock canister may be bolted or welded to any car. AMOUNTS OF BOLTS OR
WELDS MAY NOT EXCEED TYPICAL STOCK INSTALLATION. Homemade bumper
brackets are permitted, NO GUSSETS OR BRACING. NOT TO EXTEND BEHIND OEM
MOUNTING BOLT LOCATION ON FRAME. May use 2½” max. round or square tubing. No
thicker than ¼ inch. No solid stock may be used. This can only extend into the frame a max. of
8”. Will be drilled at 8 ¼” measured from the front edge of the frame on every car. Any OEM
stock automobile bumper may be bolted or welded to the shock canister or bumper brackets. You
may use two (2) pieces of light chain per shock. Fenders and bumper ends may be trimmed to
allow for wheel clearance.
2. Front bumper may be reinforced inside or behind and end to end. Must have chrome on the
outer part of the bumper from any OEM bumper shaped to fit. You may weld outer chrome of
bumper to inner skin of bumper. Nothing else can be welded to outer chrome. You cannot alter
angle of bumper. Anything coming out of bumper during race will be cause for disqualification.
11” of point and must contour from frame to frame and must be stock appearing on pointy
bumpers. (The curve of point must start at each frame)
3. You may have 6" long 4" wide 1/4" thick bumper support bracket, butt fit against bumper or
2" onto bumper. If you’re running a pre-ran and choice to put your extra. 4 by 4 1/4" plate up
front there must be at least a 1/8" gap between the 2 plates. Any questions please call.
4. No front bumper straps to core support or all thread.
SUSPENSION
1. Stiffness of suspension will be left up to the discretion of the driver. NO OTHER METAL
ADDED!
2. Homemade tie rods and homemade steering shafts are permitted.
ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION
1. ANY ENGINE OR TRANSMISSION MAY BE USED IN ANY FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
CAR, BUT MUST BE MOUNTED IN A STOCK POSITION.
2. Chained, welded, or homemade motor mounts will be permitted, but must meet approval of
officials.
3. At motor mount to subframe your allowed 2 per side of motor mount a 2”x3”x1/4” plate on its
side welded to frame and motor mount.
4. Any type of header is allowed, but must be directed away from the driver compartment.
5. Transmission oil coolers and engine oil coolers are permitted. Inspection personnel must
approve all mountings, lines, and fittings.
6. Skid plates are allowed. Must be separate oil/transmission plates. No full-length skid plates.
No bolting or welding to frame.
7. No aftermarket or homemade cradle or extreme cradle or pulley protector
8. No carburetor protector outside the intake area.
9. No aftermarket or homemade attachments to rad. Core support or fire wall. Nothing outside of
the normal/factory type attachment points.
11. You may beat flat the engine side of the firewall only, do not weld or bolt firewall. Do not
reinforce the firewall/cowl. Do not beat, paint, bolt, weld on, weld to or modify the driver’s side
of the firewall/cowl in any way.
GAS TANKS
Battery and gas tank must be tight when coming through the inspection line or you won’t be
inspected.
1. Stock gas tank MUST be removed. A METAL BOAT TANK OR HOMEMADE METAL
TANK must be mounted in the rear seat area and bolted down with metal straps. Other types of
installations will not be allowed. NO GAS CANS with hoses duct taped. A Marine (boat) tank or
an official approved homemade tank is mandatory. All tanks MUST be covered with a rubber
cover. All tanks MUST have a secure cap. All lines and fittings MUST be leak proof and meet
approval of Officials. Electric fuel pumps are permitted but MUST have shut-off within reach of
the driver. NO MORE THAN ten (10) GALLONS OF GAS IN TANK.
2. NO PLASTIC TANKS
3. Mounted in the center of the back side area.
FOR THE MINI-CAR DERBY CLASS, YOU WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO MOVE THE
STOCK GAS TANK INTO THE BACK SEAT AREA.
REAR END
1. Any automobile front wheel drive rear end can be used in any car. You cannot transform a coil
spring to leaf spring or vice versa. You may tilt the rear end by shortening or lengthening rear
end control arms. Trailing arms may be reinforced. No dually wheels allowed.
2. Any drive shaft/half shaft or U joint may be used. Welding of the drive shaft is permitted.
3. No extra metal added. Any bracket that shows reinforcement to the frame will not be allowed.
JUDGES HAVE FINAL DECISION.
TIRES
1. Only sixteen (16) inch or smaller tires and wheels will be allowed. NO SPLIT RIMS
ALLOWED.
2. Valve stem protectors, liquid in tires permitted or screws in rims to hold tires in place
permitted.
ALL JUDGES DECISIONS ARE FINAL
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note you are allowed 6 patch plates as listed below for this cleanup show only
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Mini Weld Rules
Payouts
$750
$400
$150
MadDog $100
Entry Fee $50
Perry County Fair Derby
Mini Weld
General Rules
These rules apply to all classes for the Perry County Fair derby.
1. Top five in the feature must actively compete at the end, no driving yourself on barriers or dirt
berms. Failure to comply could result in complete restart with all feature qualifiers actively
competing again or disqualification.
2. No reinforcements allowed other than specified in these rules. Any metal added to reinforce
the car is illegal. You will only be allowed 2 trips through the inspection line.
3. NO PAINTING, UNDERCOATING, OILING OR GREASING OF FRAMES. YOU WILL
NOT BE INSPECTED. THIS INCLUDES PAINTING OF THE FRAME FLAT BLACK.
4. NO HITTING IN DRIVERS’ DOOR, but also no using the driver door as a shield. If the hit is
deemed by the official to be careless or intentional, you will be disqualified. If you use your
driver’s door as a defense, we will not enforce the rules. If you use the door as a defense
repeatedly you will be disqualified. This will be at the judges’ discretion.
5. NO hot-rodding in the pits! Keep it at an idle.
6. You must make AGGRESSIVE contact every 60 seconds.
7. Sandbagging is not tolerated and will be strictly enforced. Locking up the brakes prior to a hit
for anything other than a driver’s door will be cause for disqualification. The fans pay to see a
show, put one on for them!
8. IF YOU THINK SOMEONE IS SANDBAGGING, HIT THEIR CAR WITH YOUR CAR
ON THE TRACK.
9. Winning cars plus three out of the money must remain on track until released by officials or
will not be paid prize money. Cars are subject to re-inspection before any prize money is handed
out. Cars found illegal will be stripped of all prize money for that event.
10. Any questions or controversies will be discussed at the drivers meeting
11. YOU MUST HAVE AT LEAST A 12” X 12” ROOF SIGN WITH YOUR CARS LEGIBLE
NUMBER ON IT. If this is not able to be accomplished, at minimum your car number must be
visible on the roof (for the announcer stand) and on the sides of door.
12. All drivers must pick up earnings at the completion of the event, or forfeit. They will not be
available after that date.
13. All persons MUST sign entry form, insurance waiver, release form, pay entry fees, and
purchase pit pass before entering pit area. Be prepared to present a valid driver’s license at entry.
All driver’s winning prize money will be required to provide a social security number to receive
your check.
14. THERE IS NO ALCOHOL IN THE PITS. This includes pit crews. If you or ANY of your
crew is caught with alcohol, you will be disqualified.
15. No harassing of the judges will be allowed at any time by drivers, passengers, crew members
or spectators. Failure to abide by this rule, the driver will forfeit all money, and all involved will
be escorted from premises.
16. Registration forms will be filled out the day of the event, or through online pre registration.
All drivers must be at least 16 years of age; drivers 16 and 17 must have a parent or legal
guardian sign a minor release form. All drivers must be able to present a valid driver's license at
the time of registration.
17. All drivers must wear approved helmets, eye protection either safety glasses or visor on
helmet, long pants, and shirt. Also, all drivers and riders must wear working seat belts. This will
be enforced in 2023 or you will not run!!!!
18. - Drivers must remain in the vehicle with helmet, seat belt and eye protection on until
notified by an official that it is safe to exit the vehicle.
19. A driver that receives a black flag for an intentional door hit will be disqualified from all
competition for that night. A driver that receives a black flag for sandbagging or 1 fire in the
interior of the car will be disqualified. 2 fires on the exterior will be disqualified, if in heat you
may go to consolation. This will be at the judges’ discretion.
20. This is not a team event; team driving will not be tolerated
21. All drivers must attend drivers’ meeting prior to derby
22. All cars must be removed from the derby site by 12:00 noon the following day unless
otherwise stated at the drivers meeting. Failure to do this will result in cars being removed by
and becoming property of the Perry County Fair Board.
23. DO NOT paint anywhere on suspension or frame; if we can tell it has been painted, we will
not even inspect your car.
24.ALL SUNROOFS MUST BE COVERED WITH A THIN SHEET OF METAL, I.E.
WELDED OR BOLTED (WITH BOLT HEAD INSIDE THE CAR) OR RIVETED. NO # 9 wire
or chain to accomplish this will be allowed.
Mini Weld Rules
Fall Show ONLY
1. 6 patch plates max
Front wheel drive only
1. Must be powered by four- or six-cylinder engine
2. Wheelbase must be 110 inches or less. NO EXCEPTIONS!
A. NO moving/bending a stock or aftermarket component to shorten wheelbase.
3. No four-wheel drive vehicles.
4. MANDATORY! All four/six-cylinder cars must have a cage. Four point minimum.
5. Stock gas tank MUST be removed.
A. Battery and gas tank must be tight when coming through the inspection line or you won’t be
inspected.
6. All lines under the car must be steel lines or if running rubber lines, they must be inside of the
car.
7. If OEM bumper had no bolts, homemade bumper brackets may go six (6) inches from the
back side of the bumper.
8. Built struts allowed, must be stock appearing
9. No kickers
10. No aftermarket or homemade cradle or extreme cradle or pullet protector
ALL JUDGES DECISIONS ARE FINAL
1. Cars previously run in Demolition Derby may install new front clip. Any clip may be used on
any car, MUST be installed in stock manner. Officials MUST approve installation.
2. All glass, side windows, rear windows, headlights and taillights, must be removed before
reaching the track. Rolling down windows is not permitted. Remove all glass mirrors and plastic.
Remove all decking in wagons. Vehicles must be swept clean of all debris
3. Rear seat of sedan must be removed, top and bottom. On station wagons all seats and decking
must be removed. Station wagons must be emptied to floorboards. All cars must be swept clean,
both the driver compartment and trunk. No spare tires, broken glass, or trash, etc., allowed in
cars.
4. Cars must have a seat belt and working brakes. MANDATORY!!
5. You can carry a fire extinguisher, but it must be mounted securely and free of movement.
6. Battery may be moved but must be securely fastened and covered in the passenger
compartment. MAXIMUM OF TWO AUTOMOBILE TYPE BATTERIES ALLOWED. Battery
and gas tank must be tight when coming through the inspection line or you won’t be inspected.
7. Any type of automotive radiator may be used but must be mounted in stock position. NO
RESERVE TANKS. A radiator cradle is allowed made of 1/8” metal 1” wider than the radiator.
Bolted only to the car and nothing in front of the radiator. AFTERMARKET OR HOME-MADE
RADIATOR CRADLE.
A. Front rad. screen max. Thickest 3/8” thick, bolted or 4 1” welds.
8. Fenders may be bolted together with 3/8-inch bolts or smaller with 3/8 inch or smaller washers
only. A maximum of 10 bolts per fender.
9. All doors may be welded (Outside of body only), chained or wired. Straps cannot be larger
than ¼” thick and 4 inches wide on door shell (vertical) and 2 inches wide on the window frame.
You may beat the top of doors down and may tack them in three places with a maximum of 1”
weld each.
10. No doubling of body panels allowed; no added metal allowed.
11. Patching floorboards, if you have to patch rusty floorboards you must cut out all the rust,
overlap no more than 1” with the same thickness as body material and sheet metal screws – no
more than one every 4”. No Welding to floorboards or firewall.
12. You may crease/enhance sheet metal body panels but do not fold and weld. No extra metal
may be added.
13. NO OTHER BODY WELDS OTHER THAN WHAT IS LISTED ABOVE. THIS
INCLUDES BODY SEAMS ANYWHERE ON THE CAR.
14. ALL SUNROOFS MUST BE COVERED WITH A THIN SHEET OF METAL, I.E.
WELDED OR BOLTED (WITH BOLT HEAD INSIDE THE CAR) OR RIVETED. No #9 wire
or chain to accomplish this will be allowed.
HOODS AND TRUNKS
MUST BE OPEN AT INSPECTION! So don’t come to the inspection line with the hood bolted
down….
1. HOODS: must have two (2) holes, at least four (4) inches in diameter on each side of the
carburetor – Not directly on top of the carburetor. IF HOOD IS REMOVED, EITHER FAN
BLADE MUST BE REMOVED OR FAN BELT MUST BE CUT.
2. NO SECOND ALL THREAD WELDED TO SIDE OF THE FRAME AND RAN
THROUGH THE AT MID POINT OF THE HOOD.
3. On all cars, hoods, trunks, and tailgates may be secured with the following method: on front of
car, two pieces of 1 inch all thread, NO SLEEVING, can have a 4” or less spacer free floating or
welded between core support and frame, with a washer no larger than six (6) inches O.D. and 3/8
inch thick, all threads MUST be mounted outboard of the radiator. In addition to all threads, six
(6) 1-inch O.D. bolts with a washer no larger than six (6) inches O.D. and 3/8 inch thick, or you
may use angle iron back-to-back with a bolt through it. Angle iron cannot be more than 3/16
thick or longer than 6 inches. Three on each side of the car, a total of six. Total of 6 bolts and 2
up front all threads holding the hood down and any amount of wire or cable. All wire, or cable
MUST be mounted outboard of the radiator. A maximum of 20 bolts 3/8 inch or smaller are
allowed to bolt together hood seams.
TRUNK 4 pieces of 5/8 inch all thread, with a washer no larger than six (6) inches O.D. and 3/8
inch thick, all threads may be mounted through deck lid and frame anywhere in the trunk, can be
welded to the frame or in body mount holes. In addition to all threads, you may weld the trunk 5
on 5 off, Straps should not be larger than ¼” thick or 4 inches wide or six (6) 1-inch O.D. bolts
with a washer no larger than six (6) inches O.D. and 3/8 inch thick, or 10 3/8” bolts in the drip
rail, not both one or the other and any amount of wire or cable. If the trunk is welded it must
have a 12” hole in the trunk lid. On station wagons two pieces of 1 inch all thread, with a washer
no larger than six (6) inches O.D. and 3/8 inch thick, all threads may be used in the rear through
roof and stock body mount replacing existing bolt.
TAILGATE weld 5 on 5 off, Straps should not be larger than ¼” thick or 4 inches wide or six (6)
1-inches O.D. bolts with a washer no larger than six (6) inches O.D. and 3/8 inch thick, and any
amount of wire or cable. YOU CAN WELD WASHERS (no bigger than 5/8 washer and must be
at least 12” apart) TO THE BODY TO RUN WIRE THROUGH.
A. No carburetor protector outside the intake area or DP.
B. You may have rear window bar 2”X2”X1/4” MAX. IN SIZE, 6” max. on roof 4”X4”X1/4”
FLAT PLATE TO ATTACH TO THIS BAR TOP AND BOTTOM and must be centered on front
side drip rail on trunk no further back (2” on each side). Weld to the strapping on your trunk.
There must be 6” minimum distance (gap) from the top of this bar on the roof and halo bar….
This is the only location allowed for this bar.
BODY MOUNTS
1. All body mount bolts may be replaced with 1/2-inch O.D. bolts with a stamped washer. Do not
take them out and place the body on frame. If replaced, a gap of 1” minimum is mandatory
between body and frame. You may replace it with a stack of washers, or one piece of anything
solid, as long as it is about the same diameter as the factory bushing. Do NOT crush factory body
bushings. Body mount bolts inside the passenger compartment that are close together may have
one washer six (6) inches x twelve (12) inches, must have two (2) or more body mount bolts
through washer. You may add two (2) additional body mount bolts per side inside the passenger
compartment. All all-threads MUST have nuts on top and bottom and NO welds.
4. A minimum of one chain or wire running from the outside (top) of roof down to the cowl or
BAR DOWN TO DASH BAR OF CAGE on the front window is MANDATORY for safety.
Maximum of two. IF YOU HAVE A PASSENGER MUST HAVE 2. IF USING METAL
STRAPS MAX. SIZE 2” WIDE X ¼” THICK, 12” ID APART. CAN GO TO FRONT DASH
BAR OR COWL THEN TO TOP LIP AREA OF WINDSHIELD ONLY.
CAGE AND HALO BARS
1. All driver and passenger doors may be reinforced. You should have a six (6)-point cage,
MINIMUM OF A 4PT. CAGE. cross bars may be run as follows, one across dash, one behind
front seats, and one in rear seat area, 3rd bar must stay inside of interior of rear drivers
compartment nothing past front of package tray. Nothing can be added to the bottom of this bar.
2. You can run four (4) down tubes, two (2) per side. 2 of these down tubes must be mounted in
the following way on each side(MANDATORY), 1 down tube must be to flat part of the frame
no further forward than the inner front door seam, with a max distance of 2’ from the same
measuring point. Lower door bars are allowed between down tubes that must be 6 inches or more
above the top of the frame. NOTHING OUT OF DRIVERS’ COMPARTMENT. You can have a
steel plate between the cage and front doors. Must be securely fastened to the cage. Front bar
must be mounted no more than 2” below the bottom of the front window seal and be no more
than 4” in diameter. Must have 6” between front bar and center of firewall on a fresh car. Front
bar cannot be attached to the firewall at any time. ALL DOWN TUBES MUST BE BEHIND
DASH BAR, STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN AND ON FLAT PART OF FRAME. CAN NOT
GO TO BODY MOUNT BOXES. NO KICKERS TO REAR HUMPS. NOTHING OUT OF
REAR DRIVERS COMPARTMENT. You cannot weld anything to the front bar protruding
toward the distributor protector. No grater blades, metal plates or tubing on exterior of body
(driver & passenger doors).
3. Halo bars are allowed. Can be attached to the bar behind your seat or could be run to the frame
but it would be counted as one of your down tubes. There must be a 6” minimum distance (gap)
from the halo bar and the top of your rear window bar…. Nothing can be attached to halo bar
4. This is not mandatory, but we encourage everyone to put a steel plate between the cage and
front driver and passenger doors. Thickness of metal is up to the driver. Must be securely
attached to the cage, must be 2” off of the floor, this is for protection not reinforcement.
FRAME
1. DO NOT REWELD ENGINE CROSS MEMBER SEAMS OR ANY OTHER BRACKETS
ATTACHED TO FRAME OR SHEET METAL under hood or trunk. NO CONCRETE!!! DO
NOT WELD FACTORY HOLES UP; ALL FACTORY HOLES MUST BE OPEN FOR
INSPECTION OF FRAME.
2. You cannot alter the frame in any way other than specified in rules. Do not crease or reshape
the frame.
3. You may run one (1) wire or chain from frame rail to frame rail underneath the back of the car
behind back tires/wheels.
4. You may put a bolt with a stamped flat washer thru frame to hold it together. Only one (1) per
wheel opening must be loose during inspection. DO NOT weld washer. (Pinning of frame)
5. You may notch the frame for minimal pre-bending, but do NOT weld the cut.
6. If changing the front stub, cut 3 inches behind the second cross member bolt hole. When
replacing, it can overlap 2 ½”, able to weld both sides, but no adding of extra metal. Must be of
the same make and model.
7. If restubbing one side of the frame, you are allowed to cut and fit the new frame flush and
weld one pass all the way around (butt – fit – weld). Must be of the same make and model.
8. All trailer hitches MUST be totally removed.
9. THIS INCLUDES MINI’S: If running a used car prior to this derby, you are allowed 4 patch
plates max. Size 4”x4”x1/4”. Must be painted a bright color. So, it is easily noticed for the
inspectors. AFTER INSPECTION OR HEATS NO WELDING THESE PLATES ON. IF
ADDITIONAL PLATES ARE FOUND AFTER INSPECTION – NO MONEY WILL PAID
OUT
10. Attachment of lower front sub frame to body, can use only chain 3/8” or smaller, can weld
the links at each end for attachment points. But on a used/preran car you can use a metal strap,
but each one counts toward/as your patch plates
11. No plates on fresh cars to fix/patch rust holes, unless it’s a preran/used car then follow patch
plate rule.
BUMPERS
1. Any OEM shock canister may be bolted or welded to any car. AMOUNTS OF BOLTS OR
WELDS MAY NOT EXCEED TYPICAL STOCK INSTALLATION. Homemade bumper
brackets are permitted, NO GUSSETS OR BRACING. NOT TO EXTEND BEHIND OEM
MOUNTING BOLT LOCATION ON FRAME. May use 2½” max. round or square tubing. No
thicker than ¼ inch. No solid stock may be used. This can only extend into the frame a max. of
8”. Will be drilled at 8 ¼” measured from the front edge of the frame on every car. Any OEM
stock automobile bumper may be bolted or welded to the shock canister or bumper brackets. You
may use two (2) pieces of light chain per shock. Fenders and bumper ends may be trimmed to
allow for wheel clearance.
2. Front bumper may be reinforced inside or behind and end to end. Must have chrome on the
outer part of the bumper from any OEM bumper shaped to fit. You may weld outer chrome of
bumper to inner skin of bumper. Nothing else can be welded to outer chrome. You cannot alter
angle of bumper. Anything coming out of bumper during race will be cause for disqualification.
11” of point and must contour from frame to frame and must be stock appearing on pointy
bumpers. (The curve of point must start at each frame)
3. You may have 6" long 4" wide 1/4" thick bumper support bracket, butt fit against bumper or
2" onto bumper. If you’re running a pre-ran and choice to put your extra. 4 by 4 1/4" plate up
front there must be at least a 1/8" gap between the 2 plates. Any questions please call.
4. No front bumper straps to core support or all thread.
SUSPENSION
1. Stiffness of suspension will be left up to the discretion of the driver. NO OTHER METAL
ADDED!
2. Homemade tie rods and homemade steering shafts are permitted.
ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION
1. ANY ENGINE OR TRANSMISSION MAY BE USED IN ANY FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
CAR, BUT MUST BE MOUNTED IN A STOCK POSITION.
2. Chained, welded, or homemade motor mounts will be permitted, but must meet approval of
officials.
3. At motor mount to subframe your allowed 2 per side of motor mount a 2”x3”x1/4” plate on its
side welded to frame and motor mount.
4. Any type of header is allowed, but must be directed away from the driver compartment.
5. Transmission oil coolers and engine oil coolers are permitted. Inspection personnel must
approve all mountings, lines, and fittings.
6. Skid plates are allowed. Must be separate oil/transmission plates. No full-length skid plates.
No bolting or welding to frame.
7. No aftermarket or homemade cradle or extreme cradle or pulley protector
8. No carburetor protector outside the intake area.
9. No aftermarket or homemade attachments to rad. Core support or fire wall. Nothing outside of
the normal/factory type attachment points.
11. You may beat flat the engine side of the firewall only, do not weld or bolt firewall. Do not
reinforce the firewall/cowl. Do not beat, paint, bolt, weld on, weld to or modify the driver’s side
of the firewall/cowl in any way.
GAS TANKS
Battery and gas tank must be tight when coming through the inspection line or you won’t be
inspected.
1. Stock gas tank MUST be removed. A METAL BOAT TANK OR HOMEMADE METAL
TANK must be mounted in the rear seat area and bolted down with metal straps. Other types of
installations will not be allowed. NO GAS CANS with hoses duct taped. A Marine (boat) tank or
an official approved homemade tank is mandatory. All tanks MUST be covered with a rubber
cover. All tanks MUST have a secure cap. All lines and fittings MUST be leak proof and meet
approval of Officials. Electric fuel pumps are permitted but MUST have shut-off within reach of
the driver. NO MORE THAN ten (10) GALLONS OF GAS IN TANK.
2. NO PLASTIC TANKS
3. Mounted in the center of the back side area.
FOR THE MINI-CAR DERBY CLASS, YOU WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO MOVE THE
STOCK GAS TANK INTO THE BACK SEAT AREA.
REAR END
1. Any automobile front wheel drive rear end can be used in any car. You cannot transform a coil
spring to leaf spring or vice versa. You may tilt the rear end by shortening or lengthening rear
end control arms. Trailing arms may be reinforced. No dually wheels allowed.
2. Any drive shaft/half shaft or U joint may be used. Welding of the drive shaft is permitted.
3. No extra metal added. Any bracket that shows reinforcement to the frame will not be allowed.
JUDGES HAVE FINAL DECISION.
TIRES
1. Only sixteen (16) inch or smaller tires and wheels will be allowed. NO SPLIT RIMS
ALLOWED.
2. Valve stem protectors, liquid in tires permitted or screws in rims to hold tires in place
permitted.
ALL JUDGES DECISIONS ARE FINAL
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