Warren County ThrowDown 2 PAYING 10k Full Size 10K Compacts

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Warren County ThrowDown 2 on May 20, 2023 at the Warren County Fair Grounds......26 Fairgrounds Rd. Front Royal Virginia 22630

With Limted weld fullsize paying 10,000 to win

Limited Weld Compacts paying 10,000 to win

Full size Motor Swap Class

Compact Gut&Go

Compact Trucks, SUV and Vans

Youth Compacts

2023 10k Limited Weld Warren Country Throwdown Rules

Car preparations.
1. Any year car permitted except for the following no full frame chrysler imperials,hearse, or limos will be permitted to run
2. Cars Must be complete stripped clean no trim interior or any other flammable materials must be removed prior to the show
3. All glass must be removed and swept clean
4. Original full tanks must be removed and placed in back seat area
5. All batteries must be moved in the drivers compartment ( 2 battery maximum)
6. Car must have a seat belt and working brakes at all times
7. You will have two times threw tech if on your second attempt you did not meet satisfaction to what the inspectors wanted you will be loaded and no refund will be issued ( as our job of inspectors we will make sure it is clear and understandable of what we want done so there shouldn’t be any questions or miss understanding)
8. If you do not have your inspection paper we will tech your car as its never been threw
9. Drivers only in tech no one else is allowed ( we will give you a piece of paper with everything written down for you to take back with you to show your crew) must have paper with you for re tech
10. All rules are to the interpretation to the officials ( if unsure of a rules call or text to get clarification so you understand what we want)
11. All judge’s decision are final

Frame
1. Absolutely no welding on frames are permitted unless it states otherwise in rules
2. Top frame seams may be welded from fire wall forward
3. Subframe imperials or cars with imperial subframes may not weld the k frame to the sub
4. no a arm brackets or other brackets may be welded only the main seam
5. You may tilt cars in one spot and one direction only must weld back with no metal added and no welds can be wider then ½ in
6. If frame is rusted you may fix it with in following guidelines must prove rust must cut out bad sections and but weld a new piece back in no overlapping the metals can use nothing larger than ⅛ thick material and must be flat bar
7. All fresh cars you are allowed 4- 4x4 ¼ square plates (2 per rail) to weld anywhere you want but must follow these guidelines you must have 1in gap between the welds ,welds around the plate is ⅜ max and plates are to be 1in away from bumper shock ( if welds are thicker than ⅜ wide you cut plate completely off)
8. If your car is pre ran you are allowed 8- 4x4 ¼ square plates and must follow same guidelines as above
9. No fix it plates are allowed to attach to any motor or transmission part ( cradle, mid plate,bell housing, etc )
10. No fix it plate can act like a kicker or attach body to frame
11. If your car needs a new front stub you must do it at your tilt with no added metal only unless it's one of your plates your allowed ( you can not swap frame stubs must be Ford to Ford Chevy to Chevy etc you also may not put a newer stub on a older rear or vice versa)
12. No frame shaping permitted( there is no way of fixing this so don’t do it )
13. Front frame horns may be shortened to the front of the core support mount if the mount is a weld on mount it may not be removed or re welded must see welds from factory
14. No welding of washers over the body holes on the frame
15. You may run a double strand of nine wire around the frame in one spot only behind rear axles if you choose to use chain instead ⅜ maximum size and must be wrapped around frame no welding permitted links must remain free floating you can not do both and this is the only location allowed
16. Frames may be dimpled or notched if notched the frame is not to be welded back shut
17. Sway bar must be mounted in factory mounts you may bolt to the lower control arm w a max ⅜ bolt can not be welded to frame in any shape or form
18. You will be allowed a 6”x22”x1/4” hump plate if running a 77 and newer gm metrics hump plate may be 6” x 32”x ¼” if your car is factory leaf sprung you may have a 6”x11”x1/4” hump plateMay contour to the frame or run straight across
19. Frames in the rear may be no lower than 14in
Body
1. Body bolts may be changed to ⅝ bolts must have a 1 inch gap between body and frame body bolt may only travel through one layer of the frame and can only use a 4x4 washer on inside of the body and 3x3 on the inside of frame no welding of washers must be free floating ( no adding body bolts factory locations unless otherwise stated)
2. Subframe cars must follow the same body bolt rules stated above
3. You may weld drivers door solid and may be the only door plated ⅛ thick material all other door may be wired chained or welded if welded you may use 3x3 plate ⅛ 5in on 5 in off ( weld a plate skip 5 in weld other plate ) if you choose to wire or chain you can 9 wire bottom of doors In 2 spots only and may go around frame (this is to only help to hold door shut abuse it and u will cut it out)
4. If using wire you may weld a standard ¾ washer around holes to prevent the sheet metal tearing
5. Hoods must remain open for tech, may be wired, chained (⅜ max) or bolted in 6 spots only if u decided to run all thread threw the core support that will count as 2 of your hold downs if using bolts only a 6 in long piece of 2x2 angle welded to hood and fender with one ½ bolt max ran thru the angel hood washers for the front no bigger than 4x4 ¼, if using wire or chain May have a standard ¾ washer welded to fender and hood for it to pass thru
6. Hoods must have some kind of hole big enough for fire extinguisher can fit may bolt back w total of 8 ⅜ bolts
7. Rear decking must be removed from rear of wagons and roof racks must be removed
8. Trunks/ tail gates may be chained wired or welded if welding 3x3 plate ⅛ using the 5 on 5 off method
9. Trunks / tailgates may be dished or tucked must remain 10in off the floor from top of rails if dishing if tucked you are not allowed to attach it to the floor in any way
10. You may run 2 pieces of all thread from frame threw top of deck lid ( 1 per rail)
11. Must have two 5x5 holes in trunk lid above the frame rails ( make sure you have these holes prior to tech because if you dont we will not inspect your car you will be sent back to cut holes and put at the back of the line)
12. may have total of 8 ⅜ bolts between the two spots ( 4 per hole)
13. Tops of doors may be beat down and welded with a 3 x 3 ⅛ strap ( where the window comes thru)
14. Cars may be creased Rear Quarters must remain in upright position ( no wedge cars allowed and no sedagon)
15. Body patching will be limited to floors and roofs must be done with same thickness of metal can only overlap 1in past whole and must prove rust ( with a picture prior to the show) all other areas will need to be approved before doing so
16. If car is pre ran you may plate over ripped sheet metal on doors and doors only
17. Core support spacers may only be 2x2 tubing and can not be welded to frame or core support must remain under core support
18. Nothing may be ran from core support spacer to bumper
19. All thread allowed thru core support is 1in max
20. Only 3 ⅜ bolts with stander washer may be put in to each wheel well
21. One Front and one rear window bars are allowed 2x2 max tube or 3in ⅜ plate allowed one in front one in the rear can only be attached to the first 6in of the roof/ trunk lid these bars / plates must remain 4 in away from halo bar and 6 in away from gas tanks protector no rear window bars on wagons
22. Firewalls may be cut for distributor clearance but if u cut the upper half out nothing may be put back in its place
Suspension
1. Factory car spindles only (no aftermarket spindles no gm lift spindles) may switch models gm to ford ford to mopar you get the point
2. No aftermarket springs allowed
3. Nothing is permitted to be on top of the spring inside of the frame
4. You may use a weld in style ball joint it must have limited fabrication done (don’t get crazy with a welder and you won’t have to get crazy w cutting)
5. No ball joint protector
6. Steering box adapter plates will be allowed but must be bolted to frame as factory would be no welding
7. May use aftermarket steering columns
8. Aftermarket tie rods will be allowed if running a heim joint end max bolt size is 1/2in
9. You may lock front suspension one way and one way only is by welding a 2x4 ¼ plate to the front and back side of the a arm w a max of ⅜ bead of weld around plate can not contour a arm to frame away
10. Nothing can be welded from lower a arm to frame
11. No welding permitted on torsion bars must remain factory
12. You may run 1in all thread in place of the shock 3in washer max non welded no nuts or washers allowed inside of coil pocket one nut and washer on top and same on bottom
13. You may run any 5 or 8 lug rear it may be braced w with pinion brake can not be attached to frame other then where factory intended you may have solid suspension in the rear and May use all thread shocks in rear car does not have to bounce
14. no coil to leaf conversion
15. Factory leaf spring cars must REMAIN FACTORY SPRINGS WITH A FACTORY STAIR STEP OF 2” STAIR STEP MEASURED FROM THE FRONT SIDE OF SPRING EYELET . IN FACTORY POSITION May have 4 total clamps on each leaf ( 2in wide 4 in long 5/16 bolt do not put tape around leafs)
16. You may wire or weld your coil springs to rear do not weld springs to frame in anyway
17. Watts kit are allowed must be two separate mounting brackets and have a 6 in gap between the two and can not come in contact with side rails in side of humps lower bracket can only be 3x6 in size and 4 inches long
18. Must remove any unused brackets
19. You can not relocate factory brackets must be where factory intended
20. Aftermarket/homemade trailing arms may be made out of 2x2 ¼ in size (this size is for lower and upper trailing arms) if you choose to use factory arms they may be braced
21. 03 and newer cars must use the factory aluminum Cradle and steering rack you may use older style spindles and a arms
22. On cars with the wishbone style a arms may be replaced with older style a arms must be as factory intended you are not allowed to weld a bar between the a arms
23. Any tires will be permitted black and round
24. You may have full center rims and a valve stem protector, lip guards and bead locks
Bumpers
1. Any car bumpers will be allowed may be loaded you may choose to fabricate your own bumper must be in following guidelines 8x8 tube u may have a point must expand over minimum 32 in of front and can only stick out 4 in from front edge of the tube ( so from the point to back of bumper has to be 12 inches in total length)
2. Factory replica bumpers will be allowed
3. Rear bumpers may be loaded smw or dec or a standard 4x41/4 tube may be used bumpers no sharp ends or points no pointy bumpers on rear of cars
4. Front Bumpers may be welded on but may only use one of the two following options. Option number 1 use the factory bracket option number 2 you may hard nose your bumper and run a 4 in wide ⅜ thick 12in long bumper shock welded to one side of the frame only can only have ⅜ bead of weld around outside surface ( 12in means 12in from back of the bumper so anything pass that 12 in mark will be completely removed and remember your 4x4 ¼ plate have to remain 1 in away from bumper shock)
5. You may have a 14in rear bumper shock ⅜ thick anything past 14 in will be removed ( factory shock or not)
6. Front bumper may be no higher than 22in to bottom of bumper and rear bumper may be no lower than 14in
7. You may 9 wire two spots from core support to front bumper may not go around hood core support only 2 strands maximum no 9 wire from trunk to rear bumper
Cage
1. A 4 point cage and halo bar is highly recommend
2. Cage can be inside doors or on inside driver's compartment
3. your dash bar must be 5 in off the firewall and 5 in off the trans tunnel your rear seat bar may not be any farther back then where the rear kick panel meets the floor (where the front of the back seat would be located)
4. May have a center bar must be 5in off all parts of the floor sheet metal
5. You will be allowed 4 down bars must be at a 90 degree angle can be no further forward than the firewall and can not be pass front 4 body bolts and no farther back than front of the the rear hump
6. Down bars can only be 4x4 ¼ tube max
7. Hallo bars are allowed must be straight up and down and connect to rear seat or side bars it also may be connected to the roof in two locations only with 3 in long 2x2 angel with a ½ in bolt maximum
8. You will be allowed a gas tank protector 32in wide maximum it will be allowed to touch the package tray only can be bolted or welded if you build a halo over the back half of your tank it can not be attached to roof or speaker deck
9. If your car don’t have a package tray it can not go past center of a rear axle
10. You can have guessests in corners of the cage 6in long max
Engine /trans
1. You may run any motor or transmission combination
2. Oil pans may be plated may not be any bigger than the oil pan itself and can not attach to any parts of the engine crossmember or transmission crossmember at any time
3. Lower Cradle and pulley protector is permitted may have a front plate but may only be mounted to the motor mounts
4. You may run a carb protector but may not go back past headers this is simply to protect carb abuse this and you will lose it
5. Header protectors are allowed
6. Motor mounts must have some type of rubber bushing for example jeffy's fab farm mount
7. Absolutely nothing is allowed between firewall and engine no distributor protectors no coil pack protectors no spark plug wire protectors nothing is allowed
8. You may have a mid plate but can not be no higher than the heads on motor or lower than your transmission or wider than the transmission and can not be attached to anything but motor and transmission
9. On 03 and newer cars you will be allowed to run the smw, gray area, cat skill, and buddie cradles must bolt no welding cradles to side rails
10. A skid plate may be weld to bottom of trans pan but may not be any wider than the pan itself and can not touch the crossmember
11. You will be allowed to run a aluminum ultra bell or standard steal will be allowed
12. You may also run an aftermarket tail shaft steel or aluminum
13. No transmission braces
14. Slider driveshafts are allowed
15. aftermarket shifters are allowed
16. Transmission mounts must be some type of rubber mount no solid mounts you may chain trans also to crossmember only
17. Transmission crossmember must run straight across and mount in factory location on trans you can either use the factory crossmember or a piece of 2x2 ¼ can only be attached to side rails and only attached to the angle or factory mounts
18. Angles for crossmember mounts can only be 2x2 ¼ and 6 in long if using the replacement mounts factory mount must be removed
19. Transmission and oil coolers are permitted but must be mounted in drivers compartment and must use appropriate lines ( hydraulic hoses are highly recommended)
20. Any metal fuel cells permitted or boat tanks if its a plastic tank it must be in some type of metal structure (we all have families that need us this rule is the most important and will be enforced no matter the outcome )
21. All fuel lines need to be doubled clamped
22. If transmission tunnel is cut out it must be covered by some kind of metal material
23. May have two engine chains one on each side of the motor may weld two links to frame or engine crossmember must be free floating ⅜ chain max


Question’s Call or text with the rule # to Matthew Kingree [phone]

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Warren County ThrowDown 10K COMPACT RULES 4&6 CYL

*This is Basic stock build with light modifications. Anything that not listed in the rules below I wouldn’t recommend doing.

GENERAL

1. FRONT WHEEL DRIVE CARS ONLY

2. Wheelbase MAX is 110.5”


3. All Drivers MUST attend Drivers Meeting

4. Drivers ONLY allowed in the inspection


5. CARS THAT HAVE FAILED TECH ON THE FIRST TRY WILL ONLY GET ONE MORE CHANCE TO PASS ON TECH!!! IF YOU FAIL A SECOND TIME YOU WILL NOT RUN AND MONEY WILL NOT BE REFOUNDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6. All cars MUST be completely strip/ gutted of all plastic and glass and interior, also must be vacuum cleaned don’t want broken glass inside

7. All Cars must have a roof sign

8. Must have working brakes at all times or the car DOESN’T Compete

9. Safety – DOT or Snell helmet , Must wear EYE protection, Pants and Long sleeves. If helmet comes off during the event you will be DISQUALIFIED!!!!!!

10. You will have two times threw tech if on your second attempt you did not meet satisfaction to what the inspectors wanted you will be loaded and no refund will be issued ( as our job of inspections we will make sure it is clear and understandable of what we want done so there shouldn’t be any questions or miss understanding)

11. We will be teching cars Friday May 19 4-8 pm and tech will Start Saturday morning at 8am

12. All cars must be threw first round inspection by 2:00 pm no exceptions
Inspection will close at 3:00 no exceptions ( so if you plan to weld a lot then and go over the rules be sure you plan to tech early be responsible)

13. Cars that pass Friday night will be impounded until 8 am Saturday after they are released they will go straight to the line up ( if you fail to do so you will be required to go threw tech all over)

14. Drivers only in tech no one else is allowed ( we will give you a piece of paper with everything written down for you to take back with you to show your crew) must have paper with you for re tech

15. After your heat if you make it to finals or consi you will be allowed 9 wire only to fix your cars only thing that can be welded back on is your bumper if it falls off

16. All rules are to the interpretation to the officials ( if unsure of a rules call or text to get clarification so you understand what we want)
17. All judge’s decision are final

ALL OFFICAILS DECISIONS ARE FINALLY
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO RECHECK YOUR CAR AT ANY TIME THEY FIND SOMETHING ADD OR REWELDED AFTER THE INSPECTIONS YOU WILL BE ASK TO LOAD UP A LEAVE WITH NO REFUND OF THE EVENT




ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION

1. Any 4cyl or 6cyl engine.. NO PROTECTORS

2. Motor and Transmission mounts MUST be stock!!!!! Can run a 3/8 chain but can not be welded must be bolted and can not reinforce the car in anyway


3. Radiator must remain in stock location….. you may choose to either ran one, loop lines, or no radiator…… No water barrels


BUMPERS
1. Any factory OEM bumper allowed.

2. SMW & DEC bumpers allowed

3. Home made bumpers can be no larger than 4X4 ¼ thick and NO points must stay flat!!!!! Ends must be left open


4. 10” Bumper shock maybe welded on the OUT SIDE of the frame rails ONLY Nothing inside the FRAME 2”X2” MAX SIZE

5. Mounting Bumper you may HARDNOSE you can cut the crush box off but CAN’T move the core support… can weld a flat piece of 6”x6” ¼ “ to the end of the frame to mount the bumper too…..

FRAMES

1. REMAINS STOCK

2. NO WELDING THE K FRAMES TO THE BODY

3. NO Seam Welding

4. ALL CARS ALLOWED ( 2 ) 4X4 INCH PLATES ¼ INCH PUT ANYWHERE THEY LIKED!!!!!!

5. Body mount Must remain Stock

6. No Pinning, Plating or Pinching

7. Rear Frames maybe be notched or dimpled


SUSPENSION
1. OEM suspension parts NO reinforcing or adding. NO AFTERMARKET OR HOME MADE TIRE RODS OR STRUTS

2. You may Lock the FRONT suspension ONLY by Welding the shock shaft or clamping it!!!!!!!!!


CAGES

1. Four point cage with halo bar is recommended but
NOT mandatory

2. MUST have a bar be hide the Driver seat

3. MUST have ONE FRONT Window bar, cable, or nine wire

4. MAX width of cage bars are 4”x4” or 2”x6” door bars can not extend back more than 8” on front door seam

5. MUST be 5” from fire wall and floor

6. 24” Gas Tank Protector…… IT MAY TOUCH SPEAKER DECK BUT CAN NOT BE WELDED OR BOLTED

7. NO down legs or kickers

8. If you run a bolt in cage and it has down legs THERE MUST BE A ONE INCH GAP BETWEEN THE FLOOR AND BOTTOM OF LEG

9. Back Window bar MAX 2”x2” mounted by 3” on roof and 3” on trunk lid


BODY

1. Drivers door May be welded solid and may run a door skin or bar that doesn’t expand more than four inches past door seams

2. All other doors maybe welded with 3”x3” door strap four piece per door or chained or nine wired

3. Trunk may be welded with 3”x3” strap in four places

4. Hood can be fasten down in 6 spots with chain, wire or bolts 3/8” Max size with 2”x2” angle iron…… NO ALL THREAD THROUGH CORE SUPPORT TO HOLD DOWN HOOD!!!!!!

5. Hood MUST have a 12”x12” hole

6. Fenders can be creased

7. ONE BATTERY can be used Must be located inside the car

8. NO STOCK GAS TANKS UNDER THE CAR!!!!!

9. Gas tanks or Fuel cells inside the car MUST have two clamps on all fuel lines from the tank and Fuel pump


TIRES & WHEELS
1. Front tires – ANY TIRE

2. Rear tires – Can run Solid fork lift

3. NO STUDDED TIRES

4. Can run half welded in centers

5. NO FULL CENTERS, BEADLOCKS OR LIP PROTECORS

6. ALL WHEEL WEIGHTS MUCH BE REMOVED

Contact for rules and questions
REESE ALLEY [phone] OR JESSE BLY [phone] if no answer please leave voice message or text with rule or question concerns

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2023 Full Size Motor Swap

General rules/ car preparations
1. Any year car permitted except for the following no Chrysler imperials (full framers or subframes and no you can not put a imp sub under other Chrysler’s products ) hearse,limos will be permitted to run
2. Cars Must be complete stripped clean no trim interior or any other flammable materials must be removed prior to the show
3. All glass must be removed and swept clean
4. Original full tanks must be removed and placed in back seat area
5. All batteries must be moved in the drivers compartment ( 2 battery maximum)
6. Car must have a seat belt and working brakes at all times
7. You will have two times threw tech if on your second attempt you did not meet satisfaction to what the inspectors wanted you will be loaded and no refund will be issued ( as our job of inspections we will make sure it is clear and understandable of what we want done so there shouldn’t be any questions or miss understanding)
8. Drivers only in tech no one else is allowed ( we will give you a piece of paper with everything written down for you to take back with you to show your crew) must have paper with you for re tech
9. All rules are to the interpretation to the officials ( if unsure of a rules call or text to get clarification so you understand what we want)
10. All judge’s decision are final
Frames
1. Frames must be 100 percent stock absolutely no welding anywhere will be permitted unless otherwise stated
2. Frames must remain factory length no shortening of front or rear
3. No seam welding even where factory missed
4. If car is pre ran you are allowed 4- 4x4” ¼” square plates (2 per rail)
5. No plates on fresh cars
6. No tilting cold bending or any kind of frame work
7. You may notch or dimple cars in one location in the rear
8. Sway bar must be 100% factory mounts
9. 03 and newer ford mercurys and lincoln's must run the factory aluminum cradle see engine mounting rules for motor details (motor/trans rule number 5)
Bumpers
1. Any factory bumpers may be loaded and seam welded
2. I understand bumpers are hard to find and expensive so i will be allowing a smith metal works or similar or may use 4x4x1/4 tube must remain flat tube no points are allowed
3. Bumpers may be welded on with a ⅜ bead of weld if welding bumper on you must remove bumper shock completely and frame must remain factory length abuse this and you will not run)
4. You will be allowed a 6x6 plate welded to end of the frame to make a flat welding surface must be between bumper and frame
5. Bumpers must be welded to end of the frame and may not be slid over frame rails
6. If you decide to keep your shock you may collapse the shock and weld around the collapse part but no welding shock to the frame it must be as factory intended
7. No switching bumper shock mounts must be factory to the car you are running
8. Must run bracket in factory location no moving brackets
Body
1. No body modifications must be stock( of course you must still strip it) unless otherwise stated
2. No changing of body mounts must remain factory zero modifications
3. Driver door and driver door only may be welded solid, all other doors May be wired chained or welded one of the three if wired or chained 8 spots per door can not be wrapped around the frame. if welded May have 3-3x3 ⅛ in plates per door
4. Rear quarters must remain factory height
5. Trunks must remain factory and above rain channels may do a simple tuck but may not be attached to the floor in anyway may weld,wire,and chain trunk if welded must be done with 6 plates total 3x5x ¼ max if wired or chained may do 8 spots total sheet metal to sheet metal only
6. Hoods must have a minimum 12x12 hole in it for fires
7. Hoods may be secured one of the following options option 1 may wire or chain in 8 spots total sheet metal to sheet metal only option 2 may weld angle to hood and fender in 6 spots 2x2 angle max with one ⅜ bolt max with a standard ⅜ bolt
8. No chain or wire may go to frame or bumper
9. You are allowed to crease your car but quarters must remain factory height no folding of the quarters over
10. You may have a front window bar 2x2 max or 3in wide plate can only be mounted 6 inches on roof firewall may not touch roll bar
11. In the rear window you may run 1 double strand of 9 wire from roof to speaker deck or may use ⅜ chain may only be bolted all links must be free floating
Cage
1. A 4 point cage and halo bar is highly recommend but is optional
2. Cage can not be in the doors
3. your dash bar must be 5 in off the firewall and 5 in off the trans tunnel your rear seat bar may not be any farther back then where the rear kick panel meets the floor (where the front of the back seat would be located)
4. May have a center bar must be 5in off all parts of the floor sheet metal
5. NO DOWN BARS will be allowed no not even the ones that only weld to the sheet metal
6. Hallo bars are allowed must be straight up and down and connect to rear seat or side bars it may not be connected to the roof
7. If your gas tank is not mounted to the floor you may build a gas tank holder coming off back seat bar but may not be attached and must have a gap between gas tank holder and sheet metal
8. You can have guessests in corners of the cage; you can not run bars from your halo to the gas tank protector.
suspension
1. No aftermarket or modified spindles allowed must be a factory car spindle
2. No aftermarket hubs must be oem you may turn the factory rotor down only
3. No aftermarket ball joints oem only
4. No aftermarket or modified tie rods must remain factory
5. You may lock front suspension by welding a 2x2 ¼ strap to front side of a arm one plate per upper a arm only
6. Nothing can be welded from lower a arm to frame
7. Strut or spring spacers will be allowed
8. Steering column may be changed to an aftermarket
9. May run any factory appering 5 lug rear no axle savers or any type of brace may weld trailing on brackets to make fit in other models but must be done as factory attend ( example ford 9in in a crown vic)
10. pinion breaks allowed
11. All control arms must be stock
12. May length or shorten control arms but can only overlap 2 inches
13. If running a watts conversion must be done as factory intended upper mounts must be two pieces and bolt to package tray only no welding and must be 3inches from frame rail under inside of hump lower bracket must be no bigger than 3x3x ¼
14. Coils may be wired to rear end only
15. Factory leaf springs only can not altair in anyway may use 6 aftermarket clamps (3 per side ) 3in long 2in wide and 5/16 bolt max
16. No coil to leaf conversions
17. You may set your rear height by chaining it down chains can not be welded and can only wrap around frame in one location on each side max ⅜ chain
18. Nothing can be ran from frame rail to frame rail
19. No all thread shocks must be factory shocks
20. 03 and newer fords,mercurys,and lincolns must use the factory rack and pinion oem only no truck racks and no hydro steering
21. 03 and newer may run 80 ford spindles only all other suspension parts must remain the OEM part that come with the 03 and newer ford,mercury,lincolns. also must run the factory tie rods.
22. May run aftermarket steering column
Tires
1. Any tire may be used must be no bigger than 16 inches
2. Must use a factory rim
3. No bead protectors no lip protectors no full centers no valve stem protectors
4. You will be allowed a small multi lug center (7in)
motor/trans
1. May run any motor and transmission combination
2. Motor mounts must have some type rubber bushing can be aftermarket
3. May have two engine chains one on each side of the motor may only weld to engine crossmember or side rails only one link may be weld all others must be free floating ⅜ chain max
4. No distributor protectors transmission braces coil pack protectors no mid plates no protectors in general
5. No lower cradles
6. 03 and newers Engine Mounting rule you may use a cradle like grey area or budde cradle or you can grab your own. Still must use a stock style rubber mount. The cradles are allowed to attach with one bolt through each aluminum tower, no other attachment points and must remain ½ inch off the side rail. Repair plates may not be used to tie cradles into the rails ( no smw or catskill 03 mounts in this class) call for any questions
7. Stock transmission cases only no aftermarket bells or tails oem only
8. Transmission cross members must be factory to car and mounted in factory location with a oem mount no chains allowed trans
9. Trans coolers are permitted but must be mounted in drivers compartment and must use appropriate lines ( hydraulic hoses are highly recommended)
10. You may run aftermarket shifter
11. Any metal fuel cells permitted or boat tanks if its a plastic tank it must be in some type of metal structure (we all have families that need us this rule is the most important and will be enforced no matter the outcome )
12. Headers will be allowed

For Question’s Please Call or Text Matthew Kingree [phone] with rule #

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2023 Warren County ThrowDown
Gut & Go Compact Rules
4 & 6 CYl
*This is stock build with NO modifications. Anything that not listed in the rules below I wouldn’t recommend doing.

GENERAL

1. FRONT WHEEL DRIVE CARS ONLY

2. Wheelbase MAX is 110.5”


3. All Drivers MUST attend Drivers Meeting

4. Drivers ONLY allowed in the inspection


5. CARS THAT HAVE FAILED TECH ON THE FIRST TRY WILL ONLY GET ONE MORE CHANCE TO PASS ON TECH!!! IF YOU FAIL A SECOND TIME YOU WILL NOT RUN AND MONEY WILL NOT BE REFOUNDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6. All cars MUST be completely strip/ gutted of all plastic and glass and interior, also must be vacuum cleaned don’t want broken glass inside

7. All Cars must have a roof sign

8. Must have working brakes at all times or the car DOESN’T Compete

9. Safety – DOT or Snell helmet , Must wear EYE protection, Pants and Long sleeves. If helmet comes off during the event you will be DISQUALIFIED!!!!!!
10. You will have two times threw tech if on your second attempt you did not meet satisfaction to what the inspectors wanted you will be loaded and no refund will be issued ( as our job of inspections we will make sure it is clear and understandable of what we want done so there shouldn’t be any questions or miss understanding)

11. We will be teching cars Friday 4-8 pm and tech will Start Saturday morning at 8am

12. All cars must be threw first round inspection by 2:00 pm no exceptions
Inspection will close at 3:00 no exceptions ( so if you plan to weld a lot then and go over the rules be sure you plan to tech early be responsible)

13. Cars that pass Friday night will be impounded until 8 am Saturday after they are released they will go straight to the line up ( if you fail to do so you will be required to go threw tech all over)

14. Drivers only in tech no one else is allowed ( we will give you a piece of paper with everything written down for you to take back with you to show your crew) must have paper with you for re tech

15. After your heat if you make it to finals or consi you will be allowed 9 wire only to fix your cars only thing that can be welded back on is your bumper if it falls off

16. All rules are to the interpretation to the officials ( if unsure of a rules call or text to get clarification so you understand what we want)
17. All judge’s decision are final

ALL OFFICAILS DECISIONS ARE FINALLY
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO RECHECK YOUR CAR AT ANY TIME THEY FIND SOMETHING ADD OR REWELDED AFTER THE INSPECTIONS YOU WILL BE ASK TO LOAD UP A LEAVE WITH NO REFUND OF THE EVENT

ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION

1. Any 4cyl or 6cyl engine.. NO PROTECTORS

2. Motor and Transmission mounts MUST be stock!!!!! Must run factory mounts that came with that year and make car


3. Radiator must remain in stock location….. you may choose to either ran one, loop lines, or no radiator…… No water barrels

BUMPERS
1. MUST BE FACTORY OEM BUMPER THAT CAME ON THE MAKE AND MODLE YOU ARE RUNNING

2. NO WELDING OF ANYKIND

FRAMES

1. REMAINS STOCK

2. NO WELDING THE K FRAMES TO THE BODY

3. NO Seam Welding

4. PRE RUN CARS CAN NOT HAVE ANY FIXA PLATES!!!

5. Body mount Must remain Stock

6. No Pinning, Plating or Pinching

7. Rear Frames maybe be notched or dimpled



SUSPENSION
1. OEM suspension parts NO reinforcing or adding. NO AFTERMARKET

2. ALL CARS MUST HAVE BOUNCE FRONT AND REAR

CAGES

1. Four point cage with halo bar is recommended but
NOT mandatory

2. MUST have a bar be hide the Driver seat

3. MUST have ONE FRONT Window bar, cable, or nine wire

4. MAX width of cage bars are 4”x4” or 2”x6” door bars can not extend back more than 8” on front door seam

5. MUST be 5” from fire wall and floor

6. 24” Gas Tank Protector…… IT MAY TOUCH SPEAKER DECK BUT CAN NOT BE WELDED OR BOLTED

7. NO down legs or kickers

8. If you run a bolt in cage and it has down legs to bolt to the floor you must have a 1 inch gap between the floor and the leg

9. Back Window bar MAX 2”x2” mounted by 3” on roof and 3” on trunk lid

BODY

1. Drivers door May be welded with 4 pieces of 3”x3” door strapping

2. All other doors are to be chained or nine wired max 6 places

3. Trunk must be nine wire or chain max 6 places

4. Hood can be fasten down in 6 spots with chain, nine wire

5. Hood MUST have a 12”x12” hole

6. ONE BATTERY can be used Must be located inside the car

7. Gas tanks or Fuel cells inside the car MUST have two clamps on all fuel lines from the tank and Fuel pump


8. You may run stock tank under the car but MUST be in front of rear axle and MUST HAVE A METAL SKID PLATE ADD TO IT

Gas tanks or Fuel cells inside the car MUST have two clamps on all fuel lines from the tank and Fuel pump

TIRES & WHEELS

1. Front tires – ANY TIRE on STOCK WHEELS

2. Rear tires – Can run Solid fork lift or donuts

3. NO STUDDED TIRES

4. NO CENTERS added, or BEADLOCKS OR LIP PROTECORS

5. ALL WHEEL WEIGHTS MUCH BE REMOVED

Contact for rules and questions
Reese Alley [phone] if no answer please leave voice message or text message with rule or question concerns

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2023 Compact Truck, Suv, and Van

General rules/ car preparations
1. Any factory 2 or 4 wheel drive truck,suv, and van with 4,6 or 8 cylinder
2. No full size vans no ½ ton or ¾ ton trucks no suburbans or full size broncos or full size blazers or the 80s dodge raiders ram chargers etc
3. Only v8 a that’s allowed in this class will be ford explorers, jeeps , Durango, dakotas,
4. Motor must be same make (ford to ford chevy to chevy ) etc
5. If 4 wheel drive one of the drive shafts need to be removed or axles
6. Cars Must be complete stripped clean no trim interior or any other flammable materials must be removed prior to the show
7. All glass must be removed and swept clean
8. Original full tanks must be removed and placed in back seat area
9. All batteries must be moved in the drivers compartment ( 2 battery maximum)
10. Car must have a seat belt and working brakes at all times
11. You will have two times threw tech if on your second attempt you did not meet satisfaction to what the inspectors wanted you will be loaded and no refund will be issued ( as our job of inspections we will make sure it is clear and understandable of what we want done so there shouldn’t be any questions or miss understanding)
12. Drivers only in tech no one else is allowed ( we will give you a piece of paper with everything written down for you to take back with you to show your crew) must have paper with you for re tech
13. All rules are to the interpretation to the officials ( if unsure of a rules call or text to get clarification so you understand what we want)
14. All judge’s decision are final

Frame
1. Frames must be stock no welding unless otherwise stated
2. No seams may be welded
3. Frames can be shortened to core support
4. All frame holes must remain open
5. 4 fix it plates on pre ran or fresh vehicles (4x4 ¼ square plates)
Body
1. All body bolts must remain factory only bolts allowed to be changed is the front core support and can be ¾ in all thread and may run thru hood but must have minimum 1 inch gap
2. Drivers door may be welded solid all other doors can be welded with the 5 on 5 method (put a plate skip 5 inches put other plate) or may use chain or 9 wire
3. Tops of doors may not be welded
4. Bed sides on trucks need to stay at factory height
5. Bed sides may be welded to cab in 2 locations 3x3x1/4
6. Tailgates may be welded with total of 6 plates or may use 8 spots of chain and 9 wire sheet metal to sheet metal must pick one way not both
7. Hoods may be bolted down with a total of 6 spots two of the spots being the threaded rod running threw core support the other two spots may be 2x2 angle 4 inch long with ⅜ bolt max or you may have chain or 9 wire
8. All hoods must have a 12x12 hole for fires may be bolted back with 4 ⅜ bolts

Cage
1. A 4 point cage and halo bar is highly recommend
2. your dash bar must be 5 in off the firewall and 5 in off the trans tunnel your rear seat bar may not be any farther back then where the rear kick panel meets the floor (where the front of the back seat would be located)
3. May have a center bar must be 5in off all parts of the floor sheet metal
4. NO DOWN BARS will be allowed no not even the ones that only weld to the sheet metal ( only a 2x2 ¼ down bar may be ran on drivers door must be centered in sidebar and may only weld to sheet metal only)
5. Hallo bars are allowed must be straight up and down and connect to rear seat or side bars it also may be connected to the roof in two locations only with 3 in long 2x2 angel with a ½ in bolt maximum
6. You will be allowed a gas tank protector 32in wide maximum it will be allowed to touch the package tray only can be bolted or welded if you build a halo over the back half of your tank it can not be attached to roof
7. You can have guessests in corners of the cage

Suspension
1. Must be all factory components no aftermarket spindles or ball joints must be all OEM parts if using a weld in style ball joint it must have limited fabrication done (don’t get crazy with a welder and you won’t have to get crazy w cutting)
2. No aftermarket springs
3. No ball joint protector
4. May use aftermarket steering columns
5. No Aftermarket tie rods will be allowed may brace factory ones only
6. You may lock front suspension you may weld strut or use a 2x4 ¼ plate front and back side of a arm
7. You may run 1in all thread in place of the shock 3in washer max non welded no nuts or washers allowed inside of coil pocket one nut and washer on top and same on bottom
8. Trucks Must use factory rears and can not be attached to frame other then where factory intended you may have solid suspension in the rear and May use all thread shocks in rear car does not have to bounce
9. no coil to leaf conversion
10. Factory leaf spring vehicles with factory leafs may have 4 total clamps on each leaf ( 2in wide 4 in long 5/16 bolt do not put tape around leafs)
11. You may wire or weld your coil springs to rear do not weld springs to frame in anyway
12. Any tires will be permitted black and round
13. You may have full center rims and a valve stem protector, lip guard protector can only be 1in wide will be allowed bead locks will be permitted

Bumpers
1. Any car bumpers will be allowed may be loaded you may choose to fabricate your own bumper must be in following guidelines 8x8 tube u may have a point must expand over 32 in of front and can only stick out 4 in from front edge of the tube ( so from the point to back of bumper has to be 12 inches in total length)
2. Factory replica bumpers will be allowed
3. Rear bumpers must remain factory you may seam weld bumpers but no metal may be added (smw or dec or a standard 4x41/4 tube may be used bumpers may be used)
4. Front Bumpers may be welded on but may only use one of the following options. Option number 1 use the factory bracket that came with your car option number 2 you may hard nose your bumper and run a 4inch wide ⅜ flat plate ( notice flat no teepee plates angel plates flat only) 12in long bumper shock welded to the side of the frame facing towards tire and can only have ⅜ bead of weld around outside surface ( 12in means 12in from back of the bumper so anything pass that 12 in mark will be completely removed and remember your 4x4 ¼ plate have to remain 1 in away from bumper shock)
5. Rear bumpers may be welded on with a and may have a 12in rear bumper bracket
6. If using factory shock it can only be welded or bolted with in the first 4 inches
7. Front bumper may be no higher than 22in to bottom of bumper and rear bumper may be no lower than 14in
8. You may 9 wire two spots from core support to front bumper may not go around hood core support only 2 strands maximum no 9 wire from trunk to rear bumper
Motor and trans
1. 4,6 and 8 cylinders must be same make and model ford to ford chevy to chevy etc
2. Must run same motor that comes in your model you can not put a v8 in a 4 or 6 cylinder body
3. Motor mounts may be changed to 2x2 tube max and must mount as factory intended
4. no distributor protectors no coil or engine cradles in general
5. No trans braces will be allowed
6. Trans mounts must be factory you may chain trans around the mount
7. Trans and oil coolers are permitted but must be mounted in drivers compartment and must use appropriate lines ( hydraulic hoses are highly recommended)
8. Any metal fuel cells permitted or boat tanks if its a plastic tank it must be in some type of metal structure (we all have families that need us this rule is the most important and will be enforced no matter the outcome )
9. If tank is in front of rear axle you may leave it there and must have a skid plate
10. All fuel lines need to be doubled clamped
11. May have two engine chains one on each side of the motor may only weld to engine crossmember not to side rails only one link may be weld all others must be free floating ⅜ chain max
12. Carb conversions will be allowed

Any Question’s Please call or text with rule # to Reese Alley [phone]

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2023 Youth Compacts Rules

General rules/ car preparations
1. Any front wheel drive 4 or 6 cylinder car may be ran
2. Drivers must be 12-16 years of age with out of driver's license and must have a
passenger in vehicle
3. Cars Must be complete stripped clean no trim interior or any other flammable materials
must be removed prior to the show
4. All glass must be removed and swept clean
5. Original full tanks must be removed no stock tanks will be allowed in back of youth cars if
tank is in front of the rear axle it may stay under but must have a skid plate made of
metal covering the tank
6. All batteries must be moved in the drivers compartment or back seat area ( 1 battery
maximum)
7. Car must have a seat belt and working brakes at all times
8. You will have two times threw tech if on your second attempt you did not meet
satisfaction to what the inspectors wanted you will be loaded and no refund will be
issued ( as our job of inspections we will make sure it is clear and understandable of
what we want done so there shouldn’t be any questions or miss understanding)
9. Drivers and one parent or the adult riding with them only in tech no one else is allowed
( we will give you a piece of paper with everything written down for you to take back with
you to show your crew) must have paper with you for re tech
10. All rules are to the interpretation to the officials ( if unsure of a rules call or text to get
clarification so you understand what we want)
11. All judge’s decision are final
Frames
1. Frames must be 100 percent stock absolutely no welding anywhere will be permitted
unless otherwise stated
2. Frames may be shortened to the core support
3. No seam welding even where factory missed
4. If car is pre ran no fixit plates are permitted
5. You may notch or dimple cars in one location
Bumpers
1. Any factory non loaded automobile bumper is allowed bumpers may be seam welded
2. if you would like you may use a smith metal works or a 4x4x1/4 flat tube may be ran as
a bumper nothing is to welded to the tube other than where its welded to cars and must
see factory ends of the tube and can not be no wider than tires no closing of them don't
abuse this rule
3. There will be two options on how to mount your bumpers option one will be use the
factory shock and bolt the bumper on as factory intended along with this option you may
wire bumper to core support in two location with 2 strands of wire may not go threw the
hood option two remove shock completely and weld bumper straight to the frame no

shorting of the frame at all Crush zones may not be removed that would be considered
shortening of the frame
4. You may trim ends of frame to make flush to be easier to mount bumper
Body
1. No body modifications must be stock( of course you must still strip it) unless otherwise
stated
2. No changing of body mounts must remain factory zero modifications
3. Drivers door and passenger door only may be welded solid with 1⁄8 door plates or skin
can not go past seems 3 in all other doors may be wired,chained,or welded if welded
may only have a total of 3 3x3 1⁄4 plate per door
4. Rear quarters must remain factory
5. Trunks must remain factory and above rain channels a simple tuck will be allowed may
not attach to floor may be wired,chained or welded with a 3x3x1/4’’ in a total 6 spots
6. must have a 12x8 whole in trunk may be bolted back with total of 6 3⁄8 bolts and standard
washer
7. Hoods must have a minimum 12x12 hole in it for fires can be bolted back together with
6 3⁄8 bolts and standard washer
8. hoods must remain open for tech if you come threw tech with it chained or wired down
we will not inspect your car
9. hoods may be chained or wired in 6 spots
10. No chain or wire may go to frame or bumper

Cage
1. A 4 point cage and halo bar is highly recommend
2. your dash bar must be 5 in off the firewall and 5 in off the trans tunnel your rear seat bar
may not be any farther back then where the rear kick panel meets the floor (where the
front of the back seat would be located)
3. You may put a plate on drivers and passenger side
4. May have a center bar must be 5in off all parts of the floor sheet metal
5. NO DOWN BARS will be allowed no not even the ones that only weld to the sheet metal
6. Hallo bars are allowed must be straight up and down and connect to rear seat or side
bars it may not be connected to the roof
7. You may run a 24 in wide gas tank protector must be 1 in away from all sheet metal
8. You can have guessests in corners of the cage
suspension
1. Must remain stock absolutely no aftermarket or modified parts 100% stock
2. You may use strut or spring spacers
3. Cars must have suspension bounce
4. No aftermarket or modified tie rods must remain factory
5. Steering column may be changed to an aftermarket but must be as factory intended
6. All control arms must be stock

7. No chaining of the rear to set the height
Tires
1. Any tire may be used must be no bigger than 16 inches
2. Must use a factory rim
3. No bead protectors no lip protectors no full centers / small center no valve stem
protectors
4. May run a rubber flap on outside of the wheel
motor/trans
1. Motor and trans must be factory to make and model no switching makes ( ford to ford
chevy to chevy chrysler to chrysler toyota to toyota etc you get the point)
2. Must run factory motor mounts for the car you are running no aftermarket mounts oem
only
3. No chaining the motor down
4. No engine cradles distributor protectors trans braces coil pack protectors no protectors in
general must all be oem
5. Trans must be factory to car and mounted in factor location with a oem mount no chains
allowed trans
6. Trans coolers are permitted but must be mounted in drivers compartment and must use
appropriate lines ( hydraulic hoses are highly recommended)
7. You may run aftermarket shifter
8. Any metal fuel cells permitted or boat tanks if its a plastic tank it must be in some type of
metal structure (we all have families that need us this rule is the most important and will
be enforced no matter the outcome )
9. If tank is under the car and in front of the rear axle you may leave it there but must have
metal skid plate
10. Header will be allowed
For any Question’s Please Call or Text Reese Alley [phone] with rule #