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Post by nickn44 on Apr 30, 2017 22:06:11 GMT -5
Dells Raceway Park, Lake Delton WI, at the racetrack, July 1st. We are having in conjunction with other racing activities 2 1 shot heats, Full size heat using back to the 90s rules paying 1500-1000-500, Semi stock midsize 1000-500-250. We will run in the infield with 1" of watered sand on a hard base surface. Must be on grounds before 4pm with show starting at 6pm. Fireworks after motor sports. Rules on actionautopromotions on facebook or message with questions. Nice trophies will be provided in addition to payouts...thank you
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Post by nickn44 on Apr 30, 2017 22:09:55 GMT -5
2017 Back to the 90s Rules
**Back to the 90's Rules: This class is designed as a mainly oem class, The rules are similar to rules we followed in the late 90's. Simple class with no gray areas. 1st rule is no aftermarket parts such as DP's, steel or bell housings, Trans protectors, truck or after market trans cases, extreme cradles, etc., no stubbing, no frame swaps. No body shaping or forming, no tilting. ****If its not in the rules you CANNOT do it! **Preparation: All glass, lights, chrome, plastic, carpet, header panels, hubcaps, complete trailer hitches, gas tanks and debris etc must be removed. **Safety: Helmets, eye protection, and protective clothing required! All air bags must be unbolted and removed, no cutting out just air bag. **Gas tanks and battery (up to 2) automotive must be relocated. Gas tank on floor behind driver or centered behind driver on floor or off rear bar, battery box on front passenger floor area. Must not be used to strengthen car. Any gas tank protector must come off rear bar and be at least 6" off floor and minimum 6" away from rear seat. NO WIDER THAN 30" **Hoods and trunks : Hood (4)spots chains (36") or wire (4 loops) or rods to secure hood. If using rods, maximum is 3/4" in diameter and 2 must run through core support in front and 2 may run sheet metal to sheet metal only. Trunks 4 spots with 4 chains (30") 4 wires (4loops) or 2 rods, and 2 chains or wire. Rods must go through factory body mounts vertically in back, or welded to frame between mounts only. Hood, and trunk top plates not to exceed 6" by 6" square. Hood must be cut out for fires with maximum 4 bolts 3/8" per opening. Trunks may have 90 degree bend but must have 50% stock location. No bending down or wedging, simple 90 degree bend that's all. 2 chains in windshield opening to protect from hood. Tailgates 4 chains only 36" long, no threaded rods in tailgates of wagons **Doors : 2 spots per vertical seam 30" by 3/8 chain or 1 6 inch weld with 2" by 6" 1/4 plate max. drivers door may have 3 per seam. **Safety cage. Basic 4 point with halo bar. Consists of dash bar above steering, 2 door bars mounted to dash and seat bars middle height area of door, 1 bar behind seat positioned midway height of seat horizontally. No bar larger than 6" in diameter, No plate to mount bars larger than 8" square. No kickers, just safety chain to sheet metal directly down from center of rear bar if only running rear bar. Halo bar off rear seat bar only, may be bolted to roof tin in 2 spots. Door bars may not go further back than 6" from center pillar or further forward than dash bar. **Body bolts" May be replaced with up to 7/16" bolt max, body pucks may be removed. Washers no larger than 3" to be used. Do not get creative here. **Transmission coolers are allowed but must be securely mounted and not do anything other than cool the trans. No trans protector, or steel or aluminum bells except contoured ultra, or steel tails, no aftermarket or truck trans cases, only stock mount or remove, stock cross members only. May have aluminum ultra bell on previously broken trans and needed to be able reuse trans. **Engines: No high horse power engines. Oem heads only no aftermarket. You may use aftermarket carb with aluminum intake, headers yes, Engine swaps yes, Very basic engine cradle will be allowed with factory or after market frame mounts but must have rubber grommets. Pulley protector ok but must not at any time touch sway bar or instant DQ. **Suspension: 15" minimum to lowest point of rear frame or bumper, 20" maximum to bottom of front bumper. You may use spring spacers, straps, bolting (1/2") bolts, or rod (3/4")max from lower a-arm to bottom of spring bucket to obtain this only, (2) 2"x6" straps per side must go directly down to spring bucket. 1 spot per side up to 3/8" diameter by 30" chain can be used to hold in springs for rear end on sedans or wagons. No rods in rear shock area. No reinforcing of suspension components. You may use watts conversion 1/4" or less or weld in pkg tray for 98-02s, and no more than 1" overlap for tray. **Rear ends: Up to 31 spline axled rear ends maximum with up to 2 braces that cannot reinforce car in any way. Pinion brake ok. **Frames: No welding other than brackets for bumpers, or where specified in rules, you may dimple or notch rear frames. **Bumpers of choice, may be reinforced. Substitute maybe be rectangular steel no wider than car, max 6" tall by 6" wide max up to 3/8" thick. Recommend welding stock chrome to make a factory appearing bumper. No filling aftermarket. You may hard nose but all shocks must be removed, Or shocks and brackets in factory position may be welded with single pass, no front and rear bracket swaps. No welding further back than 8" from center of core support hole. I will allow 2 spots per bumper of wire or chain. May go to core support or frame only not around threaded rod or hood. Nothing excessive or you will remove it all. No fender bolts allowed...but may trim ... **Steering...aftermarket or homemade steering.. After market brakes and shifting components are fine, just do not reinforce car in any way with these components. **Tires of choice up to 30" tall, valve stem protectors ok.. Can have 7" centers welded in but no bead locks, or reinforced in any other manner. ONLY AFTER MARKET PARTS** gas pedal, steering , transmission or floor mounted shifter nothing hanging down near cross member, dash or bar mounted brake unit or plate for manual brakes..basic engine cradle..aluminum factory type radiator in factory position, and slider drive shafts. ****80 and newer gm metric cars will be allowed a (1) per side 3/8" 18x4" rear hump plate centered on rear hump.
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Post by nickn44 on Apr 30, 2017 22:11:42 GMT -5
Midsize semi stock class
Semi stock midsize: Mid-Size 4-Cyl. And 6-Cyl. ONLY, no full framed cars. No wheel base over 113" front wheel drive, 106” rear wheel drive Cars must have all airbags and charges removed by unbolting not cutting out just air bags. You must remove all glass and carpet, headliner, in addition to flammable materials though dash may remain intact . All mirrors, chrome, plastic, fiberglass header panels, factory gas tank , hitches must be removed. *Hoods and trunks: 4 spots max, 2 minimum. 4 chains (24"), 4 spots wire (4 loops) maximum. Or 2 rods up to 3/4” through core support and frame only in that location, and 2 chains or wire. 2 3” pieces angle on fender and hood with 1 3/8” bolt will also be ok to use. 12" round or square hole cut in case of fire. Trunks 4 chains (24”), or 4 spots wire( 4 loops), or 4 plates 6” long by 3” wide by 1/4” thick, or 2 3/4” rods mounted vertically with 2 additional spots from above choices, chain, wire or 2 plates. All hood and trunk plates to not exceed 6x6x 1/4”, __NO body forming__, but you will be allowed 1 90 degree bend in trunk lid. no more than 50% of lid. *Doors: 2 chains (24"), or 2 plates per vertical seam 3" by 6" by 1/4" plates maximum. Can have additional plates or chains on drivers door only. *Wheels: Aluminum may be changed to steel, no reinforced wheels *Tires: May be doubled or tubed no taller than 26" *Engines: No protectors, may convert to carb (cut out hood enough to be safe), stock mounts. may run vertical headers out hood, May chain in engine for broken mounts. Do not reinforce any component by doing this or will remove. *Suspension must remain completely stock, if you have a bad strut or spring you may bolt or weld a washer or small piece of angle to attain bumper height but if this reinforces strut you will completely remove! 18” maximum height to bottom of bumpers. *Rear seat bar must run from door post to door post mid height of seat horizontally. You can use contoured bar or plates so seat can go back enough for driver. ***optional if you remove your dash you may run a dash bar 5” minimum from firewall, above steering, in addition you may run 1 door bar per side mid way height from dash bar to rear seat bar. No bar larger than 5” round or square. May run halo bar off rear seat bar bolted to tin in 2 spots of roof in case of roll over. *Gas tank ( steel only ) on floor behind driver, or where your feet go in back seat passenger area or off rear seat bar centered in car. Chained, bolted or steel strap to secure not bungee cords. Use proper fuel hose, and clamps. Gas tank protectors are legal off rear bar but must be a minimum of 8” away from rear seat tin area behind where seat came out and 4” off floor, no higher than 3” taller than tank and not wider than 30”. *Battery on passenger front secured to floor in steel or wood enclosure bolted to floor. *Front bumper: May be swapped with 80 and newer full size steel, or any yr rear steel automotive bumper. If you cannot find steel bumper you may use tube steel up to 6" tall by 2" wide by 1/4" thick no wider than car. You may mount by bolting or welding only adding enough 1/4” or less steel tubing needed in doing so. You can have 2 spots front and rear to hold bumper on using chain, wire or small strap. May only go to front core support or rear tail light area. Do not run tubing more than 3” in or have threaded rod go through it or you will change it or you will not run. Stock style radiators in stock location only. No radi barrels
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Post by berniev6886 on May 10, 2017 17:43:47 GMT -5
Are you going to have power wheels again
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Post by nickn44 on Jun 1, 2017 7:42:22 GMT -5
Sorry no power wheels at this event. We will have them at all our fair shows,
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Post by nickn44 on Jun 13, 2017 7:53:16 GMT -5
with both classes if you pass inspection on your 1st time you will get 10 sledge hammer shots of choice. A little reward for those that read and follow these rules!
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Post by bepper on Jul 1, 2017 20:11:48 GMT -5
I've derived for 30 years and have never seen a derby stopped because of some fluid leaking, and thon after the car is able to restart after a few minutes and the announcer said it was over then off they go and the guy that was said to have won didn't
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Post by nickn44 on Jul 2, 2017 22:22:43 GMT -5
When a large amount of fluid is leaking from areas that could be the fuel line/tank you bet I will stop the derby and get the driver out to make sure it isn't fuel..sorry you don't agree with my decision but the safety of a driver comes 1st. period! Once we determined his heater core blew and why the fluid was everywhere yes he was allowed to continue. Could you imagine if that was fuel and I hadn't stopped it and a spark lit it? With 30 yrs of experience you should want a crew that respects of drivers safety!. It was a hell of a good derby for both classes with all cash paid so I wont allow our expert key board jocks ruin it!!! Results posted on actionautopromotions facebook page...thank you!
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Post by bepper on Jul 3, 2017 12:39:13 GMT -5
Ok I understand I was wondering one other thing, how come it was such a small car count
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Post by nickn44 on Jul 3, 2017 18:18:13 GMT -5
Car count was about perfect to fit within the time constraints of the show. Wasn't a typical derby, but rather a event at a show.
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Post by bepper on Jul 3, 2017 19:12:41 GMT -5
Got ya, thanks for clarifying it
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