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Post by chevykillerx13 on Apr 11, 2016 10:18:07 GMT -5
just because you are allowed to "weld all frame seams firewall forward" doesn't mean you should....in fact on 98 n up Fords u should prolly be looking at using a 7018 at a minimum cause it's not exactly 'mild steel'.... you can do more harm than good by welding way 2 hot and weakening the metal you are trying to strengthen...and anyway...the seams are already welded what is another layer of weld gonna do? (besides weaken whats already there) SPOILER ALERT...those that are welding the seams CORRECTLY are manipulating....i.e. frame shaping...by cutting the seams and (usually) pushing the seams together....is it noticeable? no....but it helps ALOT on caddys (more noticeable) but MAINLY helps the 98-02 Fords as you able to tie in all of those factory gussets then top it off with the 10" shock, the fancy sway bar mounts (which you can manipulate into the factory pieces...)....add 4 1/4 3x3 'fix it plates'....don't forget the welding on chains for the engine (who ties their engine down with chain?) and how you creatively tie those A-arms down...WHICH with the sway bar you tie into your engine via a pulley protector which attached to your now STEEL transmission which all together...KEEPS IT ALL DOWN....not your seam welds on the frame you put on their with your MIG which is a rule to honestly make you feel good....while everyone else has a Macguyver'd setup with a rule package based around selling the other guys stuff in turn making the promoter and vendor $$$ and just making you feel good about yourself.... did I say Spoiler Alert? This thread was about welding sheet metal, frame welding is a whole different ball game. I use stick for that and like you say it is more therapy for me me that any actual benefit. Said it before somewhere else, but I'll say it again, with the exception of the K frame, and bumper mounts, frames aren't very thick at all. If I had to guess I'd say they're maybe 1/4 max.. Well within the parameters of my 115v Lincoln. It'll do 3/8 no sweat, and have done 1/2" with multiple passes and preheating.
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Post by redneckracing12 on Apr 11, 2016 13:42:03 GMT -5
Not if you get 9 wire for free. well what if ya get mig wire for free lol Well then you would be one lucky dude.
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Post by Heiner921 on May 9, 2016 8:53:24 GMT -5
well i decided this weekend to buy a mig welder picked up a nice millermatic 211 with cart, full tank of gas, full roll of .030 wire on the machine and another full roll in the box. Also many extra tips .030, .023 and .035. he also gave me a spool gun with a roll of aluminum and a roll of stainless steel. i think that was a pretty darn good deal for $800.
SO NOW I HAVE A ARC WELDER FOR SALE IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED!?!?!?!?
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Post by taterjuice on Jun 19, 2016 14:59:30 GMT -5
This thread was about welding sheet metal, frame welding is a whole different ball game. I use stick for that and like you say it is more therapy for me me that any actual benefit. Said it before somewhere else, but I'll say it again, with the exception of the K frame, and bumper mounts, frames aren't very thick at all. If I had to guess I'd say they're maybe 1/4 max.. Well within the parameters of my 115v Lincoln. It'll do 3/8 no sweat, and have done 1/2" with multiple passes and preheating. 3/8" weld in a single pass, on a 110 welder ? I'm calling bullchit
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Post by chevykillerx13 on Jun 19, 2016 22:37:27 GMT -5
Said it before somewhere else, but I'll say it again, with the exception of the K frame, and bumper mounts, frames aren't very thick at all. If I had to guess I'd say they're maybe 1/4 max.. Well within the parameters of my 115v Lincoln. It'll do 3/8 no sweat, and have done 1/2" with multiple passes and preheating. 3/8" weld in a single pass, on a 110 welder ? I'm calling bullchit Slow and steady wins the race. Haven't had a weld break yet, you'd be amazed what practice and knowing your machine can do.
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Post by taterjuice on Jun 20, 2016 11:02:37 GMT -5
3/8" weld in a single pass, on a 110 welder ? I'm calling bullchit Slow and steady wins the race. Haven't had a weld break yet, you'd be amazed what practice and knowing your machine can do. pre heating ?
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Post by chevykillerx13 on Jun 22, 2016 3:37:08 GMT -5
Slow and steady wins the race. Haven't had a weld break yet, you'd be amazed what practice and knowing your machine can do. pre heating ? Bevel if possible, oscillate, and move slow. If it's a long pass, it helps if your welder doesn't have a duty cycle like pretty much every consumer grade machine has.
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