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Post by CFM 714 on Dec 29, 2014 20:39:53 GMT -5
We wasn't allowed any homemade bumpers. They was welded up but not loaded.
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Post by chalkumup on Dec 29, 2014 21:17:25 GMT -5
Going to throw some rules out for any opinions, please remember this is a mild build truck class! Give us any suggestions that you can think of before we finalize them.
remember that we will need at least 15 trucks to run this class. This will be a one and done deal. With the rules, a rusty truck could win this heat! I would imagine 2-3 days and you would have your truck built. Proposed rules will be posted shortly!
Thanks!
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rpmw
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Post by rpmw on Dec 29, 2014 22:22:53 GMT -5
The following are proposed truck rules. We will take suggestions until dec 31. We want a limited build for ease and cost. This will be a one and done heat. minimum 15 pre entries needed to have this class and a max of 25 entries to keep it a one and done. We will put $500.00 and 100% payback of entries for prize money.
1. Any year ½ ton and 3/4 ton truck or SUV will be accepted either two or four wheel drive models. Suburban cannot be smashed down (sedagon) in the back must run as factory. 2. Four wheel drive models will only be allowed to run one drive shaft. 3. All trucks must have numbers on both doors in contrasting colors. 4. All glass, headlights, tail lights, outside metal moldings, and interior must be removed before reaching the track. A minimum of one vertical safety wire or bar must be in Windshield area SHEET METAL TO SHEET METAL ONLY. 5. Trucks must have approved seat belts and must be worn at all times during event even after truck is out. 6. Trucks must be swept clean including the driver compartment and bed. 7. One battery, group 31 or smaller must be relocated to the front floorboard and securely fastened and covered. 8. Doors must be welded, chained, bolted, wired, or any combination. 9. A four-sided driver protection floating cage is mandatory. 5” max size. Cages must not extend more than 6 inches in front of doors and may not extend behind cab. Mandatory roll over bar. 10. Bed may have additional washers and 5/8” max bolt or all thread (not welded), 3" maximum, above floor of bed and in upper Flange of frame. (4) additional bolts in bed floor. Rubber mounts may be removed. Factory bed floors only. Wood floors must have factory metal strips. Bed may be welded to the cab on the sides only max 2” wide by 1/8” thick and 10” long plate or wired with 4 spots of #9 wire double stranded. Also may be bolted through back of cab. Tailgate may be welded on with a maximum of 2" strap 1/8” thick and may be dropped below frame. Tailgate may be bolted to bumper with up to (2) bolts. 11. Cab mount spacers may be removed, cab may be wired and or bolted to frame, with (4) extra bolts and washers 5/8” max size of bolt or all thread with drivers safety in mind. 12. Original fuel tank must be removed and a "steel" tank or fuel cell must be mounted in the front center of the bed area, securely bolted in place and covered. Fuel lines may be metal or rubber. Rubber lines inside cab should be "hose inside a hose". Electric fuel pumps must have a marked shut off switch within reach of the driver. 13. Factory bumper or car bumper, no homemade bumpers. No loaded bumpers, factory only. Front and back bumpers may be welded on and may be chained or wired with a maximum of four short pieces between the bumper and the frame. (6) spots of #9 wire (or smaller) is allowed between hood and bumper and can be in front of radiator. Bumpers may be welded to the frame horns or frame rails; steel may be added to allow mounting of the front bumper but may not extend past back edge of core support. DO NOT SHORTEN FRAMES! Maximum distance of front of rear bumper to ground 26", rear bumper minimum of 20" to ground. 14. Hoods must have 12" hole over carburetor, factory hood hinge bolts may be replaced with up to 3/8" bolts, hood may be wired or bolted shut with up to (6) bolts. Washers may be welded to all wire or bolt holes in hoods and fenders. 15. All frames must remain OEM stock. Do not add cable, wire, chain, fillers, welds, or added reinforcements inside or outside of frame. 16. Inner fenders may be wired to the frame but not bolted or welded. Each wheel opening may be bolted with up to (6) maximum 3/8 diameter bolts, standard 3/8 washers may be welded to fenders. 17. Suspension must remain same type as factory stock (no coil to leaf conversions). 18. No Locked suspension. You may not weld suspension components such as upper and lower control arms or leaf springs. Rear coil spring may be clamped in place. The maximum number of leaf springs in any truck will be (4) in the front and (10) in the rear. You may add up to (4) straps or clamps per side around front or rear leaf springs. You may reinforce or make steering components including tie rods. 19. Distributor protectors are NOT allowed. 20. Trailer hitches must be totally removed. 21. Any engine or transmission may be used in any truck, but must be mounted in stock location. 22. Chained, welded, or homemade mounts must meet approval of the officials. CALL FOR CLARIFICATION! 23. Exhaust to be straight up or straight down, or exit behind the rear of the cab. 24. Radiators must stay in stock location, no reserve water tanks, radiator overflow must be directed to the ground. No aftermarket Radi barrels or steel tanks serving as radiator. If you run a radiator it must be stock type. 25. Transmission coolers are permitted. 26. Any type rear end (maximum 8 lugs) can be used in any truck. 27. Only gasoline and diesel fuels allowed no alcohol. 28. Any tires, no studs, screws, wheel weights. Valve steam protectors are allowed. No split rims!
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Post by bc721 on Dec 30, 2014 7:54:15 GMT -5
consider allowing cage to go to wheel humps in bed and guys that run factory truck bumpers to put a max 4x4x1/4 behind bumper and let front suspension be solid and make a halo bar mandatory look at h&j rules that run the evansville IN area pretty much stock rules i know a few of us would run if rules were adjusted a little we cant run car bumpers but can use the added 4x4 behind bumper and allow 1 inch all thread thru core support and for the solid suspension guys that run 2 wheel drives thats how to get bumper height i ran a 98 chevy 2 wheel drive 6 shows built this way and with 7.50 15 fork lift tires and solid suspension had 26in bumper height jmo
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Post by 38r on Dec 30, 2014 9:47:42 GMT -5
Gas tank protectors and patch plates? Most gas tank protector rules around here let u run 3' back from front of bed and bed width wide. Solid suspension as well.
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Post by 38r on Dec 30, 2014 9:56:18 GMT -5
I think loaded bumpers as well. Not going to make or brake the truck with a loaded bumper on there. Wouldnt want a weak bumper on the front to get crushed in and have the front end of the truck rapped around my motor.
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Post by rpmw on Dec 30, 2014 18:20:26 GMT -5
thanks for all the input keep it coming. We are going to start looking over it and try to find a direction to go with this class.
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Post by 38r on Dec 31, 2014 9:25:12 GMT -5
I say weld all doors as well.
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Post by critter4 on Dec 31, 2014 11:23:17 GMT -5
I say allow dp. What's with only one battery, do guys still run just one?!?!
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Post by rpmw on Jan 1, 2015 23:21:49 GMT -5
HERE IS THE FINAL DRAFT!
1. Any year ½ ton and 3/4 ton truck or SUV will be accepted either two or four wheel drive models. Suburban cannot be smashed down (sedagon) in the back must run as factory. 2. Four wheel drive models will only be allowed to run one drive shaft. 3. All trucks must have numbers on both doors in contrasting colors. 4. All glass, headlights, tail lights, outside metal moldings, and interior must be removed before reaching the track. A minimum of one vertical safety wire or bar must be in Windshield area SHEET METAL TO SHEET METAL ONLY. 5. Trucks must have approved seat belts and must be worn at all times during event even after truck is out. 6. Trucks must be swept clean including the driver compartment and bed. 7. One battery must be relocated to the front floorboard and securely fastened and covered. 8. Doors must be welded, chained, bolted, wired, or any combination. 9. A four-sided driver protection cage is mandatory. 5” max size. Cages must not extend more than 6 inches in front of doors and may extend behind cab 8” to mount roll over bar this applies to suburbans also. Legs may go to frame. This is for safety purpose only not to strengthen truck. Mandatory roll over bar. Gas tank protector must not go past 24” from front of bed. 10. Bed may have additional washers and 3/4” max bolt or all thread (not welded), 3" maximum, above floor of bed and in upper flange of frame. (4) additional bolts in bed floor. Rubber mounts may be removed. Factory bed floors only. Wood floors must have factory metal strips. Bed may be welded to the cab on the sides only or wired with 4 spots of #9 wire double stranded. Also may be bolted through back of cab. Tailgate may be welded on with a maximum of 3" angle and may be dropped below frame. Tailgate may be bolted to bumper with up to (2) bolts. 11. Cab mount spacers may be removed, cab may be wired and or bolted to frame, with (4) extra bolts and washers ¾” max size of bolt or all thread with drivers safety in mind. 12. Original fuel tank must be removed and a "steel" tank or fuel cell must be mounted in the front center of the bed area, securely bolted in place and covered. Fuel lines may be metal or rubber. Rubber lines inside cab should be "hose inside a hose". Electric fuel pumps must have a marked shut off switch within reach of the driver. 13. Factory bumper or car bumper, no homemade bumpers. Loaded bumpers allowed. Front and back bumpers may be welded on and may be chained or wired with a maximum of four short pieces between the bumper and the frame. (6) spots of #9 wire (or smaller) is allowed between hood and bumper and can be in front of radiator. Bumpers may be welded to the frame horns or frame rails; steel may be added to allow mounting of the front bumper but may not extend past back edge of core support or 8” of frame. Maximum distance of front of rear bumper to ground 26", rear bumper minimum of 20" to ground. 14. Hoods must have 12" hole over carburetor, factory hood hinge bolts may be replaced with up to 3/8" bolts, hood may be wired or bolted shut with up to (6) bolts. Washers may be welded to all wire or bolt holes in hoods and fenders. 15. All frames must remain OEM stock. Factory core support must not move. Do not add cable, wire, chain, fillers, welds, or added reinforcements inside or outside of frame. Patch plate on pre ran only max 4 plates, no larger than 4”X6”. 16. Inner fenders may be wired to the frame but not bolted or welded. Each wheel opening may be bolted with up to (6) maximum 3/8 diameter bolts, standard 3/8 washers may be welded to fenders. 17. Suspension must remain same type as factory stock (no coil to leaf conversions). 18. 2 wheel drive trucks can have locked front suspension (bolt A arms down). You may not weld suspension components such as upper and lower control arms or leaf springs. Rear coil spring may be clamped in place. The maximum number of leaf springs in any truck will be (4) in the front and (10) in the rear. You may add up to (4) straps or clamps per side around front or rear leaf springs. You may reinforce or make steering components including tie rods. 19. Distributor protectors are allowed. 20. Trailer hitches must be totally removed. 21. Any engine or transmission may be used in any truck, but must be mounted in stock location. 22. Chained, welded, or homemade mounts must meet approval of the officials. CALL FOR CLARIFICATION! 23. Exhaust to be straight up or straight down, or exit behind the rear of the cab. 24. Radiators must stay in stock location, no reserve water tanks, radiator overflow must be directed to the ground. No aftermarket Radi barrels or steel tanks serving as radiator. If you run a radiator it must be stock type. 25. Transmission coolers are permitted. 26. Any type rear end (maximum 8 lugs) can be used in any truck. 27. Only gasoline and diesel fuels allowed no alcohol. 28. Any tires, no studs, screws, wheel weights. Valve steam protectors are allowed. No split rims!
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Post by rpmw on Jan 4, 2015 17:37:18 GMT -5
Final Draft of truck rules ^^^^^^
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Post by chalkumup on Jan 13, 2015 13:41:35 GMT -5
All PM's replied
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