lincoln
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Post by lincoln on Nov 27, 2016 23:54:31 GMT -5
If only there was some other option......
Like, if a guy could somehow get a small circle of steel with several bolt patterns drilled into it and weld it into his existing rims.
Or only if a guy could find 4 out of the millions of small GM wheels.
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Post by blackNblue82 on Nov 28, 2016 17:59:16 GMT -5
Sorry, I should have been more specific. This only works with factory studs. Rims are not a snug fit on the stud when the pattern is the same. The bolt holes in factory rims are oversized enough that with a kick you can get a 5x5 rim on a 5x4.75 hub, the studs are just tight to the inside of the pattern in the rims. It may not be perfect, but I guarantee it will work. It might go on but this is absolutely a terrible idea. Studs break enough without doing something that they were not intended to do. Horrible idea. I've done it plenty and can't recall any issues with studs breaking, I mean no more than normal that is. I put the lug nuts on backwards so it will pull against the flat of the lug nut and not load the inside of the stud because of the taper. For anyone out there that is reading this use your own judgement on the situation. I'll continue to do it when necessary until I have a failure that I can definitively say the studs broke because of putting rims on in this configuration.
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Post by saskbanger on Nov 28, 2016 19:01:24 GMT -5
Five minutes with a rat tail file will get you the clearance for this particular application.
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Post by STROMI 121 on Nov 28, 2016 23:31:31 GMT -5
I once seen a guy win a derby with no cover on his rearend. Obviously he removed it to weld the spider gears and never put it back. So would it make any since for me to go on a derby forum and claim that there is absolutely no reason to put a cover or gear lube in your rearend? That opinion and comment would be considered absolutely obsured by the average derby car builder. Just because he got away with being ignorant does in no way make it acceptable to relay his experience as good or logical advice. And at the end of the day his advice and opinion are completely useless, and would likely only influence another person of similar intelligence.
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Post by saskbanger on Nov 29, 2016 14:57:19 GMT -5
Its derbying where you do what is necessary not what is best practices. It ain't no formula one or nascar. I have seen the cover off thing too. It got so hot flames were shooting out of the gears. It was hilarious. Never forget it. As far as spending five minutes with a file instead of spending a bunch of time and money on venders, if it works so be it. Done it lots when lending out wheels in the pits because I'm the guy that shows up with lots of different tires just in case. You should maybe relax a bit and embrace thinking out side the box and the spirit of improvisation. JMO LOL.
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Post by GRIMREAPER on Dec 3, 2016 11:08:17 GMT -5
I just got a 86 Pontiac paresanne rear bumper it's clean are they worth using on my 74 Grand Prix or is that bumper junk also? Got it at the pick and pull for 25$
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Post by Jeffrey7x on Dec 3, 2016 21:26:29 GMT -5
I just got a 86 Pontiac paresanne rear bumper it's clean are they worth using on my 74 Grand Prix or is that bumper junk also? Got it at the pick and pull for 25$ They are just like the caprice bumpers, all of them that I have seen are junk because they are aluminum backed. Supposedly they made some of them steel backed but like I said that is something that I have yet to find. If so it should be an okay bumper. Pretty flat, which is not gonna put any leverage on your frame.
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Post by GRIMREAPER on Dec 3, 2016 21:50:37 GMT -5
I just got a 86 Pontiac paresanne rear bumper it's clean are they worth using on my 74 Grand Prix or is that bumper junk also? Got it at the pick and pull for 25$ They are just like the caprice bumpers, all of them that I have seen are junk because they are aluminum backed. Supposedly they made some of them steel backed but like I said that is something that I have yet to find. If so it should be an okay bumper. Pretty flat, which is not gonna put any leverage on your frame. its steel backed i might save it for a compact just thought it was a good deal
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Post by GRIMREAPER on Dec 18, 2016 23:00:19 GMT -5
What is an Ideal front bumper for these cars? Also is the back bumper ok to use or should I also find a different bumper for the rear? The car is a 74 Pontiac Grand Prix Thanks in advance
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Post by Jeffrey7x on Dec 18, 2016 23:33:44 GMT -5
I'd use something flat on both ends but that's just personal preference.
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Post by Luke Wells on Dec 18, 2016 23:53:58 GMT -5
What is an Ideal front bumper for these cars? Also is the back bumper ok to use or should I also find a different bumper for the rear? The car is a 74 Pontiac Grand Prix Thanks in advance Ideal IMO would be a 76 Chevy or a 74-78 flat Mopar.
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Post by GRIMREAPER on Dec 19, 2016 7:56:51 GMT -5
would 80's vic bumpers work or will they be too weak? also Mopar flats come off shockers correct? (i know thats a dumb question but im new to the full size stuff)
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Post by chargerman on Dec 25, 2016 16:56:20 GMT -5
Will 71-76 full size spindles fit? Have a chance to get a clean 77 cutlass wagon but missing front spindles
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Post by cheezwhiz31 on Dec 26, 2016 14:42:21 GMT -5
Will 71-76 full size spindles fit? Have a chance to get a clean 77 cutlass wagon but missing front spindles yes
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Post by capricecrank on Feb 1, 2017 0:16:54 GMT -5
Ok guys got a 77 grand prix for stock show. Can anyone pm me some tips on how to keep frame from bending in front of a arm or tips on how to slow it from happening
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