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Post by metalman187x on Sept 25, 2015 11:11:28 GMT -5
badass man thanks for the help! the motor still has both mounts its still in the merc lol
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Post by runit28 on Sept 29, 2015 11:58:30 GMT -5
Is a 63 Imperial crown a Y frame? Is the front or rear stronger? Looking to run a stock to limited weld division. Also, full frame or sub frame?
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Post by fordpowerforever on Sept 29, 2015 12:30:12 GMT -5
full frame imp, along the same lines as the 64-66 imp but the sheetmetal isnt as good.
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Post by runit28 on Sept 29, 2015 12:47:10 GMT -5
Thanks. you say it isn't as good, still a good car though yes?
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Post by runit28 on Sept 29, 2015 14:01:51 GMT -5
pretty general tips but weld a pointy on drive with the front all night long and avoid hard hits with the rear unless rules let you fix the back Not very familiar with Imps.When you say weld a pointy on the front is that with our without fabricating the Y? How do you "fix" the back. You said this reguarding a 64, is it the same for a 63? Thank you
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Post by metalman187x on Sept 30, 2015 15:57:56 GMT -5
these arent y framers. the frame splits into 3 sections under the core support and behind the leaf spring shackles. if you look at it closely you can see a couple of different ways to do them some guys just plate over the openings in the frame and others cut the plate that ties all of the frame sections together in the front and hammer them together and weld the seams that are created when the gaps are closed. some guys just leave the frame like it is and weld a bumper to the plate that boxes in all of the different sections. they hold up better when you can close the holes in the frame obviously but they are still super tough even if you cant plate or weld the "y's" if you want to call them that. it depends mostly on your rules if you can plate or not. don't think that the 57-63 imps are any more inferior than the 64-66 they have the same frames and the sheet metal is just as thick its the body lines that make them bend differently but the difference isn't too drastic. its still an imperial. you can hammer the lines out to make them more square like a 64-66 but i personally wouldnt waste the time. the 62-63's i have seen run all have kinda packed into a ball where the 64-66 usually go up and then in. i thinks its because of the difference in height of the rear bumpers also. the 64-66 rear bumpers are alot taller and a totally different shape than the 62-63's. i have seen these cars flatten pointys with the "y's" open and with them closed so it depends on what you can get away with in the rules. i plate them because im allowed but some guys at my hometown show dont and they do just as well. for the back change the body mounts weld the seams and run allthead through the 2nd mount through the trunk lid and put as many leaf spring clamps on as you can. chain the humps make sure the bumper is welded on good and drive backwards. the assends of full frame imps are stupid tough. make sure the body mount in front of the front spring hanger gets changed or it will spit the frame out on the ground when the ass bends up
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Post by roughneck06 on Sept 30, 2015 16:39:36 GMT -5
My buddy picked a pre run box car and front is bent. We decided on putting a imp sub and connect the two. Has anyone tried this? Any pictures. Can pm with pics or info. Thanks
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Post by impdriver821 on Nov 4, 2015 21:25:02 GMT -5
What's everyone doing for body mounts? Removing and bolting solid? Or just using solid steel from like nerat? Pics and ideas would be great thanks
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Post by metalman187x on Nov 13, 2015 12:39:49 GMT -5
My buddy picked a pre run box car and front is bent. We decided on putting a imp sub and connect the two. Has anyone tried this? Any pictures. Can pm with pics or info. Thanks i've seen this done before and it makes the front unstoppable. go to youtube and watch the demos from powell wy. from 2008-2012 and its the general lee imp in the first vids and the one like looks like paint puke in the rest of the vids. the number is 39. and the swap is just as tough and much much easier if you cut the sub in front of the a arms and weld it to the full frame a arms forward instead of trying to put the whole sub in. the full frame rails are stronger behind the a arms than the subs
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Post by metalman187x on Nov 15, 2015 18:20:44 GMT -5
here is the car before it ran. 5 derbies and the frame never moved. its still around but cant run because of rule changes
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Post by roughneck06 on Nov 24, 2015 8:07:10 GMT -5
Ok thanks I'll check it out. That's what we're debating on doing. Either a arm fwd or the whole sub.
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Post by chevykillerx13 on May 26, 2016 5:24:08 GMT -5
Question about restoring a 65 imp crown coupé, would the front suspension from my 73 Plymouth wagon swap over? I want the small (4.5x5) bolt pattern on the imperial I'll be cruising in, and the big (5.5x5) pattern on the wagon so I can run stock dodge van wheels. I've got axle shafts I think are the same length with the car pattern also. Unless oval hole dodge can wheels would look cool on a 65... Or maybe some newer truck wheels.
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Post by ko30 on Mar 6, 2017 18:38:05 GMT -5
Running my first 64 Imperial in a full weld show, no rules for suspension, wondering what the best route to go with the suspension is?
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Post by panelman15 on Feb 3, 2018 18:43:08 GMT -5
I'm building a 66 right now and I've shortened the front frame up about six inches and I've got a 74 impala bumper tacked on right where the backing of the bumper will be centered in the frame rails up and down I've got 700.15 tires on the front and the torsion turned all the way up but my bumper height is only 22 inches to the top of my bumper.
My question is how do I get a few more inches of bumper height do I have weak torsion and need to replace them or do I raise the bumper on the frame and set it up higher kinda simular to a 60 s ford to compensate how the frame dips down from the a arm and figure out a shock tube set up to compensate the offset bumper from the frame Thanks for any help
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Post by DerbyKing88s on Feb 3, 2018 19:30:02 GMT -5
What class are you building this for? If full weld I would just get aftermarket spindles that raise the car, either way though swap spindles, I'm not sure what will fit but I'm sure there are some taller stocks spindles out there
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