Real talk bone stock big money show

[owen11x]

I know there isn't much activity on here but I've been brain storming with a promoter about trying to get a big money show going in Wisconsin with bone stock rules for old iron only really similar to the 20k to win metal mayhem in 2015/16 era

Stock body mounts. Stock case trans and bell housings. Stock style rear housings and axles stock bumpers. 4pt cage no down bars, threaded rod in core support only 20k, 10k 7500, 5000 then 2500. Question is... Is there still interest in this type of run for big money or would we be wasting our time for a dog shit turn out

[car185]

That kind of money would probably attract most drivers from the Midwest, especially if it’s a decent promoter. I find it hard to travel and run for a promoter that I don’t know anything about. I like those kind of rule sets myself. We have some 70s GM and some clean Mopars that would be just fine for those rules. I have no faith that a mopar would make it to the end for $20K but it would be fun.

[dreed121]

Bet they don’t touch each other for that kinda money..better limit 5 gal gas

[owen11x]

That is considered and always a concern but time limits could be put in place and I would certainly be all for a 2 warning. Balloon then Paint the door pink on the big time bagging then after 2nd warning break the stick. Or take one spot off the payout and pay maddog 2500 award and find sponsor to sponsor parts to other mad dogs none of this is down on paper yet it's just in the brain storming stage. Again I'm not a promoter. I'll be running a car but as a driver I think it would be an awesome show to run

[md2469]

If you don’t set a timer and limit gas it’ll just be a giant bag fest. I’ve always thought that if you set a timer 1 minute per car in the main or less depending on how many cars, every 30 seconds past the timer money goes back to the drivers who didn’t make the main, or an overall mad dog.playing the “chess” game is gay, no derby even the smaller tracks should last hrs. And I’m not taking about small amounts 1k each 30 seconds. Or something drastic. Get on the pedal or pay those who put on the show. I’m no where near where you plan on running it but I like those style of builds quick and imo fun! Cars still get junked and allows some building but not so much so that anyone can’t compete

[owen11x]

Exactly, but I think something that aggressive would hurt car count as well though to. Scare drivers from even coming. But maybe not? I want a derby straight from 1990. That's the goal with the exception of aftermarket shifter and a slider and steering column but aside from that it must be bone stock. No tiltin no creasing or shaping. Stock non modified cross members stock body mounts a build that makes a driver win the show not a welder.

[bluecrew72]

You lose me at stock body bolts and down bars to sheet metal are for safety more than anything... I don't need 1" or anything and I'm fine with a hockey puck in there, but you're talking expensive old iron that has to be perfect versus good old iron that has some soft trunk mounts that can be fixed etc, 2-5k in just the rolling shell before even building it, need to allow some building but you can limit the welding pretty easily.

[owen11x]

I have shockers that need body bolts, I get it. Let's hear every ones inputs and ideas and come up with what every one like from different areas and states

[owen11x]

Blizzard bash hobo class is pretty mild. Maybe a fella could patch rust and inch past the rust and body mounts can have same size bolt replaced. I'm just in the brain storming phase so any input is good input

[md2469]

Look at the forks wa rules, imo it’s a perfect happy medium, you get a 10 bracket. Weld a bumper on you’re normal 6 allthread no frame welding other then that. Lower cradles, 4 down bars. 6 spots 6 inches wide 1/8 thick max on doors. 2 by 2 trans cross member, and you’re allowed to swap body mount and any unbraced 5 lug axle no bells or braces of any kind. Pretty simple and basic build and if you’ve watched our show on YouTube you know how good of a show it is 😂, yet stilll allows some building. We don’t have as big of an issue with finding old iron for a right arm and left leg around here but I still get it. Cars are expensive. Although I am travelling 13 hrs to run a old iron wire show so 🤷‍♂️

[owen11x]

Mwfa class for old iron be bad ass

[noser23x]

I know a rule set I think 🤣

[bustedknuckle242]

Been to Zumbrota last 2 years with the old iron show Todd Jackson has put on? doesn't get any more stock than that show, and it pd 5k,4k,3k,2k,1k last year and 25 cars showed up, dont think it lasted much longer than 20-30 min. and wow junk was made. 20 cars signed up for this year already.

[bak34racer]

When is that show held?
Sounds cool👍

[owen11x]

Apr 15, 2024 14:45:07 GMT -5 bustedknuckle242 said:

Been to Zumbrota last 2 years with the old iron show Todd Jackson has put on? doesn't get any more stock than that show, and it pd 5k,4k,3k,2k,1k last year and 25 cars showed up, dont think it lasted much longer than 20-30 min. and wow junk was made. 20 cars signed up for this year already.

That's true I watch it every year zumbrota is the same night as my hometown show I do have plans to bring a car next year to zumbrota nothing better than 98% Mopar old iron classes