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Post by backwoodsboys707 on Oct 10, 2017 11:52:21 GMT -5
Ok I've got a question because I can't make up my mind on what the better option is...so around here in the mod class your allowed to run a DP or 2 1" solid kickers to behind the aarms...I've never ran a DP so I'm wondering what is the better option?
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Post by STROMI 121 on Oct 10, 2017 12:12:09 GMT -5
DP as in full engine cradle and transmission brace? Are you allowed a trans brace and cradle without the DP if you run kickers? Or is it all protectors or Kickers and no protectors? How big of a plate are you allowed to attach the kicker to the frame rail?
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Post by nick18sf on Oct 10, 2017 14:23:38 GMT -5
I'd run kickers to the frame since you don't already have a 1" cradle. I'd look at it as, do I want to spend $1,900 on a dp or maybe $100 on some solid tube for kickers. I think you'd get close to the same outcome w kickers. But, maybe I'm wrong.
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Post by backwoodsboys707 on Oct 10, 2017 15:21:36 GMT -5
DP as in full engine cradle and transmission brace? Are you allowed a trans brace and cradle without the DP if you run kickers? Or is it all protectors or Kickers and no protectors? How big of a plate are you allowed to attach the kicker to the frame rail? Could run trans brace without dp yes but I don't have a trans brace...and as for plate to attach to frame you can only weld kickers to frame no plate between kicker and frame
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Post by STROMI 121 on Oct 10, 2017 15:26:02 GMT -5
I don't like the idea of one inch kickers without a plate to attach it. But like previously stated, If I didn't allready have protectors then kickers would be the obvious choice for me. However I have never ran a one inch kicker before. So IDK how well they would work.
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Post by lincoln on Oct 11, 2017 6:10:50 GMT -5
Once again......a 1" kicker is nothing.
All that 1" solid is going to do is bend, or if it doesn't, it will push through the frame.
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Post by mopar17 on Oct 11, 2017 7:06:13 GMT -5
Once again with a vague question there are too many variables. The main ones being, how close to factory location does the motor have to sit with your rules and how much firewall has to be cut? Also how close can your DP get to your dash bar? Some rules say that no matter what after the show they can’t touch, well if that’s the case I’d take the 1” kickers. Also depends a lot on the style of car.....to say 1” kickers won’t do the job is a far stretch.
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Post by backwoodsboys707 on Oct 11, 2017 10:27:03 GMT -5
Have yet to have one bend or push through the frame and I full tracked a Chrysler last year running a 79 Lincoln...and as far as motor mounting #1 cylinder has to be even with top ball joint I believe or within a few inches either direction..and around here u can cut as much firewall u want or leave it in
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Post by redneckracing12 on Oct 11, 2017 11:11:09 GMT -5
If I had the option to run a dp or 1" kickers I'd take the dp any day. Your dp is a giant kicker just in a different Manor. If you were allowed 2x2 kickers it would be a different story.
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Post by backwoodsboys707 on Oct 11, 2017 11:18:47 GMT -5
I guess my next question would be if I ran a dp do I cut out the firewall or leave it? I've had a few guys tell me to leave it I'm not sure what the benefits would be to leaving firewall as to cutting it out some...this was also talking about an 80s Ford when they told me to leave firewall in
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Post by dean88 on Oct 11, 2017 12:18:13 GMT -5
There is no sense in running a DP if you have no firewall. The strength comes from the DP hitting the firewall and then the dash bar behind it
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Post by backwoodsboys707 on Oct 11, 2017 12:43:50 GMT -5
There is no sense in running a DP if you have no firewall. The strength comes from the DP hitting the firewall and then the dash bar behind it That's what I thought but wanted to double check since I've seen alot with them cut out
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Post by DerbyKing88s on Oct 11, 2017 16:08:43 GMT -5
If you can run a dp with firewall in but pushed back to the dash bar or atleast close, make sure dp is tight up against firewall and let her eat.
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Post by STROMI 121 on Oct 11, 2017 19:08:38 GMT -5
There is more to using the firewall as a reinforcement than simply adding a DP. A DP is only a small part of the equation. Proper full cradle, mounts, transmission brace, etc. are some of the variables in the total package required to use a DP as a kicker.
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Post by owen11x on Oct 11, 2017 19:39:24 GMT -5
^^^^yep. By no means do i mean disrespect to you, but if you didn't know or understand the firewall needs be left in as one of the steps to making it all work, I'd stick with the kickers.
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