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Post by bigjim on Apr 19, 2015 18:56:51 GMT -5
What are your thoughts on using a slider drive shaft. I would think it would be the only way to go but i may be wrong. Anyone have any pictures or advice on how to build one? I was surprised not to see a post about this here.
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Post by 383 Sonoma on Apr 19, 2015 19:24:28 GMT -5
Slidershere's a link to the thread on sliders
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Post by seventyonehemicuda on Apr 19, 2015 23:04:01 GMT -5
DONT BUILD ONE!!! Its a trap!!!!
I blew a ton of cash and way more time building my own... it works but its junk compared to an E3 or Nerat shaft. if i had a time machine i would go back and just buy one. its cheaper to buy and you will get a better product. JMO
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Post by bigjim on Apr 20, 2015 0:49:02 GMT -5
I guess my first question should have been how far will i get with out one. Will be running a 79 bonneville in a local fair. Last years rules were stock but they have changed all that now. From Loaded bumpers to all kinds of stuff. This will be my first derby and i don't want to be setting on the side lines 5 minutes after i get on the field because i took a rear end shot and broke something that i could have prevented.
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Post by redneckracing12 on Apr 20, 2015 17:26:09 GMT -5
Honestly I'd find a different show, stay with the stock stuff get the basics down pat and then work on building a more heavily welded car.
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Post by B12 Racing on Apr 23, 2015 3:54:10 GMT -5
I have been running since 2006 and just built my first "build-class" car last summer. There is so much information to learn - especially if you're having to figure it out on your own. I have been lucky to have some really good guys from the sport that have really given me some good advice. Stock class is probably where you want to stay for a few shows. My first build compared to my last build is pretty different. My first car two GM cars turned into road-graders. Last year I built 3 stock class cars and all of them curled up and are ready to run this year.
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Post by runninhot38 on Apr 28, 2015 14:43:46 GMT -5
bigjim I would concentrate on a good driveline first. I'm not trying to deter you from getting a slider but in my opinion work on having a reliable motor and trans setup then a rearend that you aren't loosing an axle in every time someone bumps into it and then get a slider. You will be put out long before your car is folded up enough to require a slider by a busted axle or crap motor. This is just my opinion of course but hopefully it helps you out and when it comes to sliders there are a lot of good ones but who does everyone get their parts from? Nerat, if it's what they're buying then I'd just go straight to the source and buy one of his plus he has great customer service if anything happens to it when you're running it. Good luck
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Post by rhann123 on May 2, 2015 23:18:29 GMT -5
I've honestly never used one and I'm not positive but honestly i hate rigging up drive lines to fit in cars that i've swapped motors in. So i think this would save some serious time in that aspect of building?
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Post by seventyonehemicuda on May 3, 2015 14:36:09 GMT -5
I've honestly never used one and I'm not positive but honestly i hate rigging up drive lines to fit in cars that i've swapped motors in. So i think this would save some serious time in that aspect of building? It has the possibility to save time. -you will need to drill and tap every transmission you use -you will need the proper yokes for every transmission you use -you will need the proper yoke for every diff you run. I myself run 99.9999% mopar 727 trannys and 8 3/4(10 spline) differentials. so I'm pretty much set now for a long time if i wanna switch to ford 9" or gm 10/12 bolt... or th350-400's thats a whole new bag of worms. |
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Post by bigjim on May 3, 2015 15:48:54 GMT -5
Thank you for the info guys. I picked the local fair show for 2 reasons. 4 cars showed up last year. 1st took home $1500.00 and 3rd took home $500 is one reason but not the main reason. I will get a copy of the rules i don't think they are to bad for a beginner. It's pretty much stock but allowed to stuff bumpers, notch frames, and prebend, also tuck trunk lid. As for the drive train i don't really see anything wrong with the olds 350 engine and tranny that are in the car. It runs pretty damn good. Here is a pic of her i got a lot left to do but thanks for the info.  |
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Post by SDderbyman47 on May 5, 2015 0:12:58 GMT -5
You dont have to have a slider to be competitive. Are they the way to go yeah if you have the money for one you bet. I would love to have one but havent decided to drop the money on one. For your first car I wouldn't worry about not having one. I have ran several derbies and have only had once that a drive shaft took me out and that was because the top control arms on my differential broke loose.
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Post by Hitparade on May 5, 2015 15:27:21 GMT -5
I've honestly never used one and I'm not positive but honestly i hate rigging up drive lines to fit in cars that i've swapped motors in. So i think this would save some serious time in that aspect of building? It has the possibility to save time. -you will need to drill and tap every transmission you use -you will need the proper yokes for every transmission you use -you will need the proper yoke for every diff you run. I myself run 99.9999% mopar 727 trannys and 8 3/4(10 spline) differentials. so I'm pretty much set now for a long time if i wanna switch to ford 9" or gm 10/12 bolt... or th350-400's thats a whole new bag of worms. If you are like a lot of people most of the stuff listed above isn't an issue. A TH400 is tapped already. Stcik with one style tranny(TH400) and you only need one yoke. Buy multiple yokes if you have multiple setups. One yoke will last a long time though. One rearend equals one yoke. Multiple setups equals multiple yokes. Again one yoke will last a long time. I know there are some 727 trans out there that are tapped. If you are a Mopar guy. Really what I am saying is getting setup is easy to do and the stuff lasts a long time. Later Brandon |
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Post by seventyonehemicuda on May 5, 2015 22:09:37 GMT -5
^^^ true that... but it AINT cheap!
1 setup with a shaft and 2 yokes is $650-$1000+
to do it yourself aint a whole lot cheaper.
ive seen maybe 1 727 that was already tapped but it looked like someone else had done it not factory.(rare if they do exist.)
i love my slider but believe me It comes a price.
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Post by STROMI 121 on May 5, 2015 22:21:26 GMT -5
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Post by STROMI 121 on May 5, 2015 22:23:01 GMT -5
You only need an extra yoke if you run uncomon drivetrains like Mopar or Ford. Still no where near a grand. JMO
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