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Post by wildrose200 on Mar 3, 2015 11:33:59 GMT -5
Guaranteed money
Mods 1st 1,600. 2nd 750 3rd 550 4th 300
Stocks 1st 500 2nd 150 3rd 100 $600 mad dog
Gut-n-go (street stock class) 1st 300 2nd 200 3rd 100
Mowers 100% payback of entry fee
Trophies for all winners
Also powerwheels
Wednesday July 22nd 7pm inspection starts at 4:30
Also have sponsors for mad dog
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Post by MOOSE on Mar 3, 2015 11:44:28 GMT -5
*Modified Rules*
Any hard top car or station wagon, Imperials and 03 and new ford are allowed.
Trunk
Two 8" X 8" inspection holes must be put in all deck lids one on each side of trunk lid within 2" of trunk seam in center of trunk.
You may weld or 9wire trunk lids and tailgates, one or the other not both.
9WIRE If you 9wire you may have 8 spots (double loop)of #9 wire, it may go around bumper or frame, washers may be welded on sheet metal only.
WELD: Strapping used for welding trunk may be ¼” x 3" flat stock maximum.
Trunks can be welded solid!
You may have two 1" max thick pieces of all thread from the floor pan to the deck lid, They may Welded to frame but no more than ½ ( HALF ) way down the side of frame. They must be straight up and down And must extend through deck lid, the washer on these can be 3in by ¼ thick max. On wagons these may go from the floor pan (frame) to rear roof pillars not the roof.
Trunks may not be smashed flat, If cars are tucked the rear quarter panels on both sides of cars must be 6" higher than the top of the bumper If speaker deck is removed the trunk lid can be welded to package tray. It must be at least 2 inches from rear fire wall ( behind body bolts on new style fords).
HOOD
Hood must be open for inspection, 12" x 12" hole over carburetor is mandatory.
You may 9wire or bolt the hood down, you may mix and match but only have a total of 6 spots only.
9WIRE you may have 6 spots of 9wire (double looped max) to hold hood down, you may weld washers to the hood and fenders. Washers can not be any bigger that 3in x¼
BOLTS You may have a total of 6 bolts in the hood to keep it secure, bolts may be 1" max. The front 2 may go all the way through core support, to the frame.
Core Support
You may use a 2” x 2” spacer through the core support this may be welded to top of frame and the top and bottom side of the core support only. The spacers may not be lower than top of frame.
FRONT MOUNTS
You may use a 4" x 4" x ¼ plate to weld to top side of frame on the front two body mounts these can be welded no farther back than 2" on the frame.
Body Mounts
All body mounts must be in stock (factory) location. All body mounts may be changed 1“ max, You may Weld (3”x¼ max) washers over the body mounts holes on the top side of the frame only. Washers on inside may not be welded. Cars that didn’t come factory with body mounts in the rear package tray may add them in factory hole. No other added body mounts will be permitted. Must have at least ½ inch gap between frame and body.
Body
Doors may be welded solid with 4”x¼ max straps.
On pre-ran cars the doors may be repaired back to stock. Rust repair on body is ok, must use same thickness material. No more than a 1” over lap, get crazy get to cutting. Leave rust behind patch if no rust can be seen you will cut off the whole patch.
You may pinch the front fenders, doors and rear quarters, front to back no added metal.
Body panels will be drilled front and back, No double skinning.
Each wheel well may have no more than 6 bolts each, wheel wells may be trimmed, rolled and welded back together single pass only.
9 wire inside cab
you may have unlimited 9 wire inside the cab, May go from frame to cage or body. Must stay inside cab nothing passed Front or Rear fire wall.
FOUR POINT CAGE
A cage must be installed, nothing bigger than 4x4, This is all the cage you may run, NO belly bars down the middle of the car, The cage can be inside of doors, you may weld gussets on every corner but must be from cage to cage (not cage to body or frame) just to add strength to the joints. The cage can only be welded to the frame in the four designated areas started below nothing else. .
DASH BAR (only one) and it must be at least 6 inches from your Distributor Protector, You may only have two down legs off the dash bar and they mush be straight up and down and can only be welded to the tope of the frame rail. (behind the crush box or S curve) Can NOT be welded to fire wall at all.
2 DOOR BARS one for each side only, these bar must be at least 6 inches off the floor and may not go past the front dash bar or rear halo bar. You may weld the door bars to the door and door post. The door bar may not have any down legs at all.
HALO’S are mandatory and can not be any farther back than where the kick panel meets the bench seat. Down legs may be 50/50 one this point. Halo must be straight up and down not pitched forwards or backwards and can only be welded to the top side of the frame.
BACK BAR may be weld to the door bars or down legs of halo which ever works for you. Can not be wider then the door bars or halo down legs, can not have any down legs weld to back bar. You must weld your GAS TANK PROTECTOR off of the back bar.
GAS TANK PROTECTOR the gas tank protector may only be 36 inches wide.
(out side to outside) The gas tank protector may be butted up to rear fire wall but can not be welded or bolt to frame or fire wall in any way.
KICKERS: You may have two 3x3 (max size) Kickers in the front one the car only. The Kickers can only run to the back of the A-arm. (side closest to fire wall) No gussets off the kickers to the frame.
WINDOW BARS
You may run ONE REAR (2x2 max) window bar, It can be welded to the halo and must be welded to the seam were the front of the truck lid meets the speaker tray, if you remover the speaker tray and slide the truck lid forward or backwards you must still put the window bar in the same location and can only be welded to trunk lid not floor, If you look from the side of the car across the trunk it must be within 4 inches of rear window pillars. If you don’t run a trunk lid you may not have a window bar. DO NOT run to middle of trunk or back bumper or you will cut it out!
You may run ONE FRONT (2x2 max) window bar, It may be welded to the halo, If you weld to the halo you can only run it to the DASH BAR on the top side or behind (must be at least 6 inches from Distributor Protector), not in-between the dash bar and fire wall. If welded to halo it may not be welded to fire wall at all. If you weld the window bar to roof only you may weld to top of the fire wall (behind Distributor Protector) or dash bar your choice.
Bumpers
Run any bumper you wish (front and back), you may stuff bumpers, Home Bumper are legal.
Home made pointy bumpers are allowed but cant no have more than a 14inch point on them and the point must be at least 28” wide. This will be measured for the mounting pads/frame. BRING A CAN OPENER/ HOLE PUNCHER AND YOU WILL CUT THE POINT OFF
BUMPER SHOCKS May be home made (on front only) no bigger or longer then 2x2x12” may be welded the whole 12 inches. You can cut factory frame seam open and weld the shock no creating extra seams on top or bottom of frame.
Bumper heights are 24” high 14”low from bottom of bumper.
Frame
Trailer hitches and braces must be removed. No plating, pinning, heat treating, stuffing the frame of any kind. Do not paint frame.
NO WELDS ON FRAME MAY EXCEED A SINGLE PASS NO WEAVE PASSES OR BUILDING THE WELD UP WILL BE PERMITIED.
NO FRAME CREASING or hammering PERMITTED. You can notch or crease rear frame, to help the rear of car roll not to strengthen the frame. Welding is limited to front and rear bumper areas Frame seams from firewall forward may be welded top side only.
The front of frame must be 25" from the front of coil pockets to end of the frame measured on the bottom side. If a frame section needs to be replaced or repaired do to rust you may patch the rust with the same thickness of flat plate. Do not cut rust out, If no rust is behind plate you will cut the whole plate off. (NO MORE THEN 4 RUST REPAIRS ON FRAME) If the frame has damage in the rear, the back 2 body bolts may be moved no more than 6" from factory location.
On pre-ran cars if the frame is shortened in the rear and bumper replaced the bumper shocks may not be located closer than 6" from hump plate.
PATCHES
All fresh cars may have (2) 3/8” x 4”x4” patch any where of their choice…
You may have a total of (6) - 3/8" x 4" x 4" patches on pre-ran cars that have frame damage there must be a 1" gap between patches, Patches may only be on a flat surface No bending over the corners of the frame. If a seam has came apart you may re-weld up to 6" ( no patches bigger than3/8 “ x 4" x 4" allowed ) Angle iron for the cross member can't be longer than 5" and must be within 12" from factory location.
HUMP PLATES
For coil sprung cars you may use a hump plate they may be 22” long ¼ thick and follow the contour of the frame, must be centered in the hump.
On new model GM's (1980+ metrics) you may use a 30" long ¼ thick hump plate the same way.
On leaf spring cars you may use a ¼" X 11" hump plate the same way. These hump plates may contour the frame or run straight across hump. Hump plate must remain flat plate no bending of this over the top or bottom of frame.
You may clip pre-ran cars with a single butt weld with no metal added must use same make and model of frame IE: ford to ford gm to gm No hybrid frames permitted on fords you can not clip a 02 and older with an 03 and newer no exceptions or vice versa.
You may cut factory seams at the box and re-weld to tilt the front of new style fords no metal may be added. All factory holes in frame must remain open no welding these holes shut.
On 03 and newer fords you may use an 80 and newer ford or GM car steel cradles they must be put in like there factory counterparts only using the factory brackets no other metal may be added. They must be in factory location and can not be moved forward. You may use a 3" spacer from the bottom of the frame to lower A-arm where the spring goes you may not alter frame in any manner other than attaching factory brackets with a single bead of weld. You can not add any type of spring pockets to frame. All factory holes in front of A arms must be open. Nothing may be welded on top of frame over the holes in front of frame. On 03 and newer fords you can not shorten the front of the frames. A ARMS must be 7 ½” behind the rear factory holes in frame in the front TO THE FRONT EDGE OF A ARMS (THE FACTORY CRUSH POINT ) A ARMS must be from a passenger car no truck or van A ARMS will be permitted.
Drive Train
Engines may be chained in with 4 chains standard 3/8" chain max. these chains may be no longer than 16" and no more than 2 chain links may be welded to the engine cradle behind Motor Mount2 chains permitted to frame In front of A-Arms (1 per side) 2 Chain links welded to frame Welds for this may not exceed a continuous 3” weld. . Chains must attach to engine and no separating the links of chain. Motor of choice is permitted. Distributor protectors are allowed, Nothing that attaches to engine can be wider than the stacks I.E dist. Protector, engine cradles ect or be used to strengthen cars.
A transmission brace may be used, may attach to bell housing or distributor protector and the tail shaft. They must be on the top of trans and not strengthen the car in any way nothing allowed below the bottom bell housing bolt or the side bottom bolt on tail shaft this can not extend past transmission mount. You may use a skid plate, this may attach to the trans pan and oil pan nothing may extend past the rear of oil pan or forward of the sump area of the oil pan and must be flat plate only. If you use a homemade bell housing as in a steel or aluminum bell trans braces are STILL allowed. Oil pan and transmission pan may be plated the plate used may be only 1” wider than the pan they are welded to. If you use a transmission brace / protector you may weld to cross member. .
Suspension
You may modify tie rods. A-arms must remain in stock configuration. Rear trailing arms may be Home made No bigger than 2 x 2 square tubing or pipe.
Upper A arms may be welded down with a ¼" X 2" X 2" piece of steel on front and back side of upper a arm and you may plug weld the center of the A Arm NO OTHER WELDS WILL BE PERMITTED ON ANY PART OF A ARMS. lower A-Arms may not be welded. You can change out the new style A-arms For old style ones. Cars do not have to bounce. Solid suspension is allowed.
Coil springs in rear may be welded wired or chained to rear end. No coil to leaf conversions allowed.
You may use rear end of choice, (8 lug is allowed) Rear end protectors may be used but may not be used to strengthen car in any way and must be on back of rear end.
leaf spring cars may replace broken springs with factory ¼ " leaf springs only. No more than 7 springs allowed and must have a 2" stagger and mounted in factory location, Shackles and hangers may be welded doesn’t have to bounce. Can be flat leafed, welded together, clamped as many times as you want. Must still meet bumper height restrictions.
Idler arm must be bolted factory to frame no bolts will be permitted all the way through the frame. (Factory passenger car) Sway bar may be welded to bottom of frame in the factory location you may use a 1 ½ " X 4” bracket or a 2" square tubing or pipe to weld to sway bar to attach to frame.
Upper and lower A Arms must be factory passenger car type no homemade ones will be permitted.
Tires
Any rubber tire permitted, Doubling of tires permitted. Bead locks are permitted no bigger than 21” across. Valve stem protectors are permitted
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Post by MOOSE on Mar 3, 2015 11:45:18 GMT -5
*Stock rules*
Any year hard top, front engine, car or station wagon. No imperials
DOORS
You may weld, chain or 9wire doors shut,
if you choose to weld you may not have any more than Three, 2x4 plates per vertical seam. Nothing is to be welded on the bottom or top of doors.
If you choose to chain the doors you may have no more than 4 spots of chain per vertical door seam. No chain at the top or bottom of doors.
If you choose to 9 wire the doors you may have no more than 4 spots of 9 wire per vertical door seam. No 9 wire at the top or bottom of doors.
HOOD
May be fastened down in SIX spots only. You may use bolts (no bigger than ¾), 9wire ( four loops per hole) or chain ( one loop per hole)
ALL SHEET METAL TO SHEET METAL
No all thread from frame through hood. Hood must have a 12x12 hole cut out over the top of the engine.
Trunk lid
May be fastened down in SIX spots only. You may use 9wire ( four loops per hole) or chain ( one loop per hole)
Trunk lid may be cut in half, NOT folded into the trunk, truck lid can not be “ V “ must remain stock.
Body Mounts
The only body mounts that can be changed is, The front two in core support and the four in the trunk. You may use up to ¾ bolts for these six body mounts. All other body mounts must remain factory. If a body mount is rusted out you may run 2 loops of 9wire around that body mount area.
Drive train
You may run any engine or transmission you wish, You must run the rear end that came with the car. No adding gear to the stock rear end.
Absolutely NO ENGINE ARMOR! No distributor protector, cradles, braces, NOTHING
You may weld factory engine (rubber) mounts to the frame. You may weld a 3x3 strap to the engine perch to the frame or run a chain from the engine to the frame (no more than one link weld per side)You May alter the transmission mount but must run a stock cross member. You may weld 4 inch long peace of angle iron to the frame, but must bolt transmission to cross member and bolt cross member to the angle iron.
CAGE
You may run a floating box cage, no more than 8 inches behind the drivers seat.
Cage material may not be any bigger than 3x3.
Cage can not touch floor any where, no gas tank protectors.
You may run a halo bar but must be straight up and down and only welded to the cage inside.
Cage can be welded to the door post and corners of the front fire wall.
Tires
Run any tire you wish we don’t want flats
Bumpers
You may run any stuffed bumper or home made bumper but no points.
22" is the max height bumper 14" minimum this is from the bottom of the bumper.
Suspension
All suspension must be stock just like it came from factor no coil to leaf conversions. No relocating spring mounts must have factory stagger.
You may kick the coil spring out of the pocket to gain bumper height. No welded on suspension what so ever.
Frame
Rust can not be patched let nature take is course!
No tilting of any frames front or back!
The only thing that is allowed to be welded to the frame is the front bumper and the engine mounts or chain, anything else that’s welded will be cut.
The only altercations that can be made is what is stated above, Everything else must be factory for the make and model of car your running. Anything else and you will not run in the “stock” show…..
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Post by MOOSE on Mar 3, 2015 11:45:57 GMT -5
*Gut and Go rules*
Any Front Wheel Drive vehicle, Vans are allowed!!!! No Full Size Cars or rear wheel drive cars.
1. Strip all glass and flammable material from vehicle. Dash may stay in car.
2. Gas tank may be moved to back seat but must be covered. If fuel tank is mounted in front of the rear axle, it may be left in factory position.
3. Doors may be welded but only two spots per seam 3x3 plate. Nothing on bottom or top of doors.
4. Trunk lid, hatch, or gate may only be wired shut in 6 places. 10in hole in trunk lid for inspection.
5. Must run factory Drive Line.
6. Tires must be DOT, no paddle tires
7. No welding on frame ANYWHERE.
8. You must run factory bumper for your make and model, you may take the cover off. You may 9-wire bumper to body in 2 places, Front and back this will count as two of your 6 wire spots if you run through truck lid.
9. You may have a floating cage, no bigger that 3x3 and can not have any down legs. No gas tank protector.
10. Suspension must remain all stock for your make and model do not alter in any way.
11. No body creasing, tucking, wedging or " V " the trunk.
12. Must have 9 wire in the front windshield.
13. Battery must be moved to the passenger floorboard.
14. All cars must have working breaks.
15. All air bags must be removed from car.
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Post by MOOSE on Mar 3, 2015 11:46:55 GMT -5
General Rules
These rules are not up for discussion Tech Crew has final say
If it doesn't say you can do THEN YOU CANT. Bend the rules and you will lose!
• You only get TWO free chances to pass through the tech line! If you do not pass tech after the second try then you have one of two options. (1.) Load up and go home with out being reimbursed!!! (2.) Pay another entry fee to get a third chance!! Each class has different entry fee amounts, what ever your class amount is that's what you pay. If you do not pass tech after the third try you will load up!!! NO EXCEPTIONS
• The tech crew will re-inspect the top 5 cars in each class before any awards or money is handed out. If found cheating after the derby is over you will forfeit all awards and winnings and receive nothing. The tech crew has the right to cut or drill frames and body if they believe your cheating.
• Your car must be inspected and pass before the drivers meeting or you will not run. You need to leave early enough to make it to the fair grounds on time. If you show up late and have to cut and don't pass tech before the drivers meeting you will not run.
• You will only get one warning for sandbagging, The second time we come to you for sandbagging its to break your stick. People come to watch a show and its your job to put it on.
• Do not hit the drivers door, You get one warning. We know accidents happen but if it looks intentional your done. If your a driver that uses their drivers door as a shield to avoid getting hit and some one takes the shot we will not be giving a warning.
• There is to be no welding at the fair grounds. If you are caught welding at the fair grounds your disqualified. If you lose a bumper in the heat that's tough should of welded it better.
• After each heat, cars will be quarantined until the last heat, so everyone gets the same amount of time to work on cars.
• A helmet and eye protection must be worn at all times while in the derby pit. We highly recommend long sleeve shirts and pants.
• If you catch on fire your out, If you catch on fire in the heat you may fix the problem and run the consolation.
• There is to be no painting of the frame anywhere, If your painting the frame your cheating and you will not run. If you show up with mud and dirt caked all over the frame you will not pass tech and you will have to go scrape it off and that will be one of the two free tries to pass tech.
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Post by wildrose200 on Mar 22, 2015 9:31:53 GMT -5
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Post by poorboy198 on Mar 26, 2015 19:58:01 GMT -5
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Post by wildrose200 on Mar 29, 2015 12:34:14 GMT -5
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Post by wildrose200 on Mar 29, 2015 12:50:20 GMT -5
Guaranteed money Mods 1st 1,600. 2nd 750 3rd 550 4th 300 Stocks 1st 500 2nd 150 3rd 100 $600 mad dog Gut-n-go (street stock class) 1st 300 2nd 200 3rd 100 Mowers 100% payback of entry fee Trophies for all winners Also powerwheels Wednesday July 22nd 7pm inspection starts at 4:30 Also have sponsors for mad dog Rottie Motorsports is sponsoring $375 cash for maddog Or a set of tires , also $225 cash in the gut and go class . |
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Post by wildrose200 on Apr 6, 2015 5:44:45 GMT -5
Guaranteed money Mods 1st 1,600. 2nd 750 3rd 550 4th 300 Stocks 1st 500 2nd 150 3rd 100 $600 mad dog Gut-n-go (street stock class) 1st 300 2nd 200 3rd 100 Mowers 100% payback of entry fee Trophies for all winners Also powerwheels Wednesday July 22nd 7pm inspection starts at 4:30 Also have sponsors for mad dog |
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Post by wildrose200 on Apr 6, 2015 5:45:20 GMT -5
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Post by 2414 on Apr 6, 2015 8:28:11 GMT -5
Payouts stuck or increase with car counts ? Any hump plates?
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Post by wildrose200 on Apr 17, 2015 20:22:56 GMT -5
Payouts stuck or increase with car counts ? Any hump plates? |
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Post by wildrose200 on Apr 19, 2015 8:28:34 GMT -5
Payouts stuck or increase with car counts ? Any hump plates? Yes hump plates in mod class . Will higher car count pay will go up . |
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Post by 2414 on Apr 21, 2015 14:20:39 GMT -5
Hump plates and leaf springs ? What's the usual turn out ?
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