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Post by werner on Feb 1, 2021 17:18:41 GMT -5
I’ve broke a couple of these internally before, and I was wondering if there’s a stronger steering box, that is a direct bolt up...I’m not allowed to change the mounting location of the steering box.
Kinda a long shot, but figured that I’d ask you guys. I need power steering, and Hydro steer is out of the question.
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Post by dean88 on Feb 2, 2021 19:13:18 GMT -5
How have exactly are you breaking the boxes? Are you running powersteering?. Ive been told the caddy box is the same box as a standard old iron GM with a different pitman arm, but Ive never verified that.
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Post by noser23x on Feb 2, 2021 22:32:47 GMT -5
How have exactly are you breaking the boxes? Are you running powersteering?. Ive been told the caddy box is the same box as a standard old iron GM with a different pitman arm, but Ive never verified that. Impala and BOP steering boxes are the same as caddy, just different pitman arm. Believe you can turn the pitman arm 180 and be in business. Parts can break, but if it's a repeat failure the same every time and it is happening often, make sure you are running power steering with good fluid, and depending how your steering column is mounted along with other steering components that can cause issues as well. Parts need to be oriented correctly to prevent bind, and if using the steering column as a kicker that can cause more harm as well. |
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Post by dean88 on Feb 2, 2021 22:35:34 GMT -5
Thanks for verifying that information. I've never had to change one to start and Ive have a pile of used Caddy steering stuff Ive never had to try a standard GM box.
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Post by cheezwhiz31 on Feb 3, 2021 9:36:49 GMT -5
Also put something to stop spindles from over steering when hit or driving hard...
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Post by werner on Feb 3, 2021 10:11:43 GMT -5
I’ve been running power steering and it just might be bad luck that I’ve broken them...I haven’t taken them apart to inspect what has broken internally, but I’ve been told that it’s most likely the worm gear...I’ve never tried to rebuild a steering box and I’m not entirely sure how they’re built. Is a BOP stronger internally, and worth swapping out?!?
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Post by DerbyKing88s on Feb 3, 2021 23:16:23 GMT -5
We don’t usually have issues with boxes but 1 Chevy box we use blew apart internally and actually blew a casting out or something of that nature. The 2 other boxes just usually twisted the splines
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Post by cowdoc on Feb 4, 2021 22:32:11 GMT -5
I’ve been running power steering and it just might be bad luck that I’ve broken them...I haven’t taken them apart to inspect what has broken internally, but I’ve been told that it’s most likely the worm gear...I’ve never tried to rebuild a steering box and I’m not entirely sure how they’re built. Is a BOP stronger internally, and worth swapping out?!? They get broke on caddies all the time, the gm boxes are the same with 180 degree pitman. steering stops do help but some of the best builders/drivers I know break them every run. 53 caddies ran bakken derby last yr and about half broke. I dont think its because theyre weak, the cars themselves are so damn tough they last through helacious beatings and with all that weight somethings gotta give |
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Post by DerbyKing88s on Feb 5, 2021 1:12:08 GMT -5
I’m sure track shock and inertia is rough on them. Blizzard bash is probably the worst track for everyone, all types of boxes have issues there especially since we can’t run hydro
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Post by noser23x on Feb 5, 2021 13:45:23 GMT -5
I’m sure track shock and inertia is rough on them. Blizzard bash is probably the worst track for everyone, all types of boxes have issues there especially since we can’t run hydro Especially with solids and stuff on the front, that track is hard on components. Solid tire, spindle, ball joint, etc, weak point really is the steering box and the nut behind the wheel. |
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Post by DerbyKing88s on Feb 6, 2021 0:24:38 GMT -5
150lbs wheels, 10,000lbs cars, nothing is happy down there. We’ll have to be there Tuesday-Monday so if nothing else it’ll definitely be a long week for the hut behind the wheel
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