chi
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Post by chi on Oct 11, 2020 0:57:14 GMT -5
Has fuel,has spark,has compression. It’s in time,everything from head gaskets up is brand new. Keeps spark while cranking so it isn’t timing or spark related. Had bad gas but drained it and put in fresh,it almost started but just burbles a few times and acts like it’s flooded. Injectors are fine and getting the right signal. I’m totally out of ideas with it,I’ve been trying for two weeks to get it started and throwing money at it in hopes it’s something simple but it isn’t..does anyone happen to know anything about these little bastard mobiles?? Is there like a ground somewhere besides the engine bay I’m not checking?? All I can possibly think of is a bad ground somewhere but everything seems fine to me..I’ve even went as far as swapping cam sensors and intakes from my running one with luck,hell even the ECU got swapped from the other one and still nothing..please help before I turn this thing into a $1300 firework lol
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Hotfoot674
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Post by Hotfoot674 on Feb 20, 2021 17:10:00 GMT -5
is the fuel pump good?
is the fuel filter clogged?
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Post by klicky96 on Feb 21, 2021 22:18:22 GMT -5
Need to get a scanner on it and read some data. Throwing parts at it ain't gonna do you any good if you don't know where the problem lies. Need to check tach signal, cam signal, if it's going into theft, if there is an injector/fuel system fault, etc. Need to check fuel pressure also. You say you have spark, is it good spark? How long had this thing been sitting?
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Post by klicky96 on Feb 21, 2021 22:18:48 GMT -5
Also, will it run off ether?
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Hotfoot674
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Post by Hotfoot674 on Feb 22, 2021 17:31:02 GMT -5
ooh i never thought about cam signal but crucial
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Post by chi on Mar 28, 2021 8:09:03 GMT -5
Need to get a scanner on it and read some data. Throwing parts at it ain't gonna do you any good if you don't know where the problem lies. Need to check tach signal, cam signal, if it's going into theft, if there is an injector/fuel system fault, etc. Need to check fuel pressure also. You say you have spark, is it good spark? How long had this thing been sitting? The car sat for supposedly 8 months but there was moss under it lol so hard telling,it probably sat for 2 or more years judging by the stench of the gas lol But literally everything checks out on the car,the only two things I haven’t tried are a new MAF and trying to retime it again. It gets bright blue spark and has the right fuel pressure but still won’t fire. It’s gotta be one of the two,and I’m leaning towards it being slightly out of time |
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Post by boom61 on Mar 28, 2021 18:54:10 GMT -5
One problem is throwing some of these parts at it without knowing what the issue is. Especially swapping a PCM. You could end up fixing the original problem and it still doesn't run because the PCM is wrong. I get you are pulling your hair out with it and giving something a try but I would never swap a PCM without know for sure it was an issue because of the multitude of problems that can create. Get a scan tool or code reader on it. Some of them aren't crazy expensive and could save you time and money down the road.
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Post by klicky96 on Mar 30, 2021 13:37:46 GMT -5
Need to get a noid light on the Injectors and verify they are firing. Put your old pcm back in, and run through the check list.
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Post by chi on Apr 29, 2021 3:18:15 GMT -5
Need to get a noid light on the Injectors and verify they are firing. Put your old pcm back in, and run through the check list. Finally got to check them the other day and they’re firing. Old pcm has been back in as well,I just swapped long enough to crank it over a few times. I tried starting it when I was messing with it and it still does the same thing,just cranks,sputters like it wants to run then just keeps cranking. Also checked timing and it’s good. I’m almost to the point of swapping in a KLDE from a probe gt,these fsde engines are pissing me off |
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Post by Hotfoot674 on May 6, 2021 7:59:17 GMT -5
Ok so from the evidence you have me you will have to “clean” the injectors. So to start, remove the injectors and spray paint them orange, that that they are easier to find, re install them into the engine, next fill the gas tank to the top with gas, this will help you get the maximum “cleaning”, once the injectors are reinstalled got to various sports stores and buy all the tanerite you can walk out the door with from as many stores as are in your area. In the end you want about 180-220 lbs of tanerite. Next mix up all the tanerite in 5 gallon buckets, close all the doors, bust out the sunroof, or if you don’t have a sunroof cut, hack,or smash a hole through the roof and pour the most of the tanerite inside the cabin, and pour some around the engine, the next step is to move the car out into a field where any “debris-flying-at-supersonic-speeds” will not hit anything. As a bonus for very dirty injectors you can put some full gas cans in the car on top of the tanerite, brakeclean and starting fluid cans can be added as well, then get the ar15 or whatever’s legal in your state, and shoot the car right through one of the front doors. Last of all find the injectors, this may be easier said than done, for example look for them imbedded in nearby trees or in the ground, Hope this helps!
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Post by chi on May 10, 2021 17:16:28 GMT -5
Ok so from the evidence you have me you will have to “clean” the injectors. So to start, remove the injectors and spray paint them orange, that that they are easier to find, re install them into the engine, next fill the gas tank to the top with gas, this will help you get the maximum “cleaning”, once the injectors are reinstalled got to various sports stores and buy all the tanerite you can walk out the door with from as many stores as are in your area. In the end you want about 180-220 lbs of tanerite. Next mix up all the tanerite in 5 gallon buckets, close all the doors, bust out the sunroof, or if you don’t have a sunroof cut, hack,or smash a hole through the roof and pour the most of the tanerite inside the cabin, and pour some around the engine, the next step is to move the car out into a field where any “debris-flying-at-supersonic-speeds” will not hit anything. As a bonus for very dirty injectors you can put some full gas cans in the car on top of the tanerite, brakeclean and starting fluid cans can be added as well, then get the ar15 or whatever’s legal in your state, and shoot the car right through one of the front doors. Last of all find the injectors, this may be easier said than done, for example look for them imbedded in nearby trees or in the ground, Hope this helps! Hey thanks man,it got it running right! Seems to have a small leak in the door seal or something though..I keep hearing wind blowing in from somewhere |
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Post by boom61 on May 10, 2021 22:49:20 GMT -5
What was the issue?
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Post by chi on May 11, 2021 1:47:10 GMT -5
I haven’t even torn back into it yet lol but I’m about positive it’s just the timing being off just a little. Someone told me if the oil smells like gas,it’s almost always timing,and since I retimed it twice already I’m sure I didn’t get the marks on the cams lined up |
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