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Post by space saver on May 25, 2020 11:00:26 GMT -5
Alright, so me and my father got into an argument last night over where I want to put the dash bar in my car. I want to put it right in the middle of my hinges or 24 inches from the ground. (Middle of door on the outside.) The material I'm using for my Dash bars is 5x7 tubing and my door bars are 4x4. I want to put the 5x7 on the narrow side with my 4x4 both top and bottom.
He wants me to put it at the top hinge... thoughts?
Please note I'm going to be building a pedal setup and my seat will be closer to the back of the car. My only issue will be column positioning. And he says blind spots.
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Post by Landshark007 on May 25, 2020 11:37:11 GMT -5
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Post by nick18sf on May 25, 2020 22:59:19 GMT -5
Lower the better. You do see bumpers running into the top half of the doors much.
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Post by space saver on May 25, 2020 23:05:22 GMT -5
Lower the better. You do see bumpers running into the top half of the doors much. That's why I want it at 24 inches... that's where bumpers sit around here and I dont want my cage doing funky stuff with the fact I'm gonna have 2 door bars per side. Hes stuck in the late 90's early 2000's derby builds whereas I'm running against virtually blizzard bash limited weld cars...
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Post by demoboy333 on May 26, 2020 7:59:50 GMT -5
I run my dash bars about top hinge. But my side bars are lower. If your using 7 inch top the time you put the side bar under it then will be about the middle where you want it. Then I gusset all it. I ran my dash bar to low and it binded up my zerr pedals once car bent with factory column. And was a bit to far forward since dist almost hit after the car pushed back a good ways.
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Post by cheezwhiz31 on May 26, 2020 8:29:01 GMT -5
i'd try and maybe use a more rectangle sidebar to give your ribs some room. Then use the 4x4 for dash bar if that is what you have to work with. Put the dash bar on top of the side bars if your wanting to get the side bars covering more bumper impact area. Also take in consideration whrere dist will be when car is bent.
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Post by lincoln on May 26, 2020 9:28:19 GMT -5
I like to run my side bars first then put my dash and seat bars inside of them.
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Post by Landshark007 on May 26, 2020 12:43:56 GMT -5
A little gooder pic of mine
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Post by space saver on May 26, 2020 13:14:43 GMT -5
I'm working with a single piece of 5x7 that's just under 6 foot long, and 3 pieces of 4x4 at 108", 108", and 109" long... I'm getting a piece of 4.5" pipe that's 61 inches long, that will be my seat bar. As well as another piece of 4.5" pipe that's 8 foot. The door bars will be 5' x 4 then I'll use what's left of those for a halo... I'm also going to be building a full cradle out of some stuff I bought from my boss today. I've got alot of work ahead of me, I know.. and thank yall for the input, it helps alot.. please keep it coming.
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Post by smashincwa on May 26, 2020 21:18:59 GMT -5
Light build/stock build the bar should be mid door height. It's easy to put there just above the steering column.
If you are running a cradle or protectors and pressure is on your side, then consider where the bar will make contact when things bend.
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Post by noser23x on May 27, 2020 8:19:43 GMT -5
picture maker online freeRun side bars right about knee level, which usually is right about where bumper height is, with dash bar on top. Dont like a super low dash bar, comfort is part of that, I dont like knee super close to a bar, like room for pedals etc.
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Post by cheezwhiz31 on May 27, 2020 8:36:26 GMT -5
^^^ looks identical to my cages...
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Post by DerbyKing88s on May 27, 2020 9:20:43 GMT -5
I'm working with a single piece of 5x7 that's just under 6 foot long, and 3 pieces of 4x4 at 108", 108", and 109" long... I'm getting a piece of 4.5" pipe that's 61 inches long, that will be my seat bar. As well as another piece of 4.5" pipe that's 8 foot. The door bars will be 5' x 4 then I'll use what's left of those for a halo... I'm also going to be building a full cradle out of some stuff I bought from my boss today. I've got alot of work ahead of me, I know.. and thank yall for the input, it helps alot.. please keep it coming. you’ve seen the cage in this year’s car, biggest part about the cage and dash bar mainly is what the rules allow you to do and what kind of set up you have. If you’re running protectors but they can’t handle the stress that will be on them if they meet the cage early what good is it to set the cage up in a way that you would utilize them. If the dash bar is in the way of the column and you can’t move the column easily what good is that? (I’m not sure if you’re running the stock column or what, that was just an example)
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Post by backwoodsboys707 on May 28, 2020 19:40:08 GMT -5
A little gooder pic of mine We build ours pretty close to this aswell only major difference is we use oilfield pipe because we live in an oilfield and can get pipe for free. Main thing is like stated before what protectors do you run and how can you benefit from how you build your cage also what your cage rules are would determine how high I'd go aswell. For example if your allowed down bars it wouldn't bother me to run it high then run another door bar lower than the top door bar so you wouldn't have to worry about bumper shots if that's a concern you have then just gusset the crap out of it lol
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