Post by gbr12 on Mar 18, 2020 14:14:23 GMT -5
Roberts, Wisconsin Good Neighbor Days Demolition Derby 2020
Saturday, May 30th.
2:30 PM the derby starts.
In case of bad weather, the derby will be moved to Sunday, May 31st.
Inspection starts at 8 AM ends at 1PM!!!
ENTRY / PIT / DRIVER RULES AND INFORMATION:
3 classes
80's and newer 1st place: $2000 2nd: 1200 3rd: 600 4th: 300
Compacts 1st place: $1500 2nd: 600 3rd: 300 4th: 100
Stock compacts 1st place: $1000 2nd: 500 3rd: 200 4th: 100
We will also be running a power wheels class before the derby all kids will receive ribbons. Ages 4-9. Free entry.
We WILL be running heats depending on car count. (So bring extra parts and tools)!!
Entry Fee of $50 if pre-registered and paid by May 22. Contact Matt Skoglund for more information.
Entry Fee of $70 if paid after May 22 or day of event.
Entry fee covers the car and driver ONLY .
$50 LATE FEE for drivers that show up after 1pm.
Pit Passes $15
Derby only adults $10 kids $5
Must be 18 years of age or older to be in the derby. ID required – ANY driver may be asked for ID.
All drivers MUST attend the Driver’s Meeting before the derby!!
ANY VEHICLES HAT WE BELIEVE TO BE UNSAFE, WILL NOT RUN!!!
Call Call Matt Skoglund with any general questions 715-410-1429
Call Josh Oberg with any 80’s and newer questions 715-529-8549
Call Tim “HOLLYWOOD” Myer with any compact questions 507-421-1521
***BATTLE AT THE BORDER 1980s and NEWER RULES:***
1980 and newer Fords 1980 and newer Mopar 1977 and newer GMs (only metric cars) General Rules
1. All #9 wire used can only be 3 strands, and chain maximum size of 7/16"
2. If not specified in rules don't assume you can do it, call first.
3. Must remain stock unless specified in rules.
4. Anything you do to prevent the bending of your car will be prohibited an result in disqualification. 5. Read these rules. Then when you’re done, read them again.
6. No building to any gray areas, inspectors decisions final.
Drivetrain
1. Any Engine/Transmission combination may be used.
2. Allowed: Braced rearends, pinion brakes, aftermarket axles, slider driveshafts, engine cradles (if using a cradle with a pulley protector, the sway bar must be removed), weld in centers for rims, tranny coolers, aftermarket gas pedals, brake pedals (may not strengthen car), shifters, distributor clamps, radiator barrels, carb protectors and solid lower motor mounts.
3. Not Allowed: Mopar V bumpers, top pulley protectors, distributor protectors, mid plates,
transmission braces, aftermarket steel or aluminum bellhousings, steel tail shafts, axle savers, truck rear ends, and no painted frames.
4. May use one 2x2x1/4" piece of square tubing for a crossmember, must go straight across from frame rail to frame rail, no kickers off of crossmember. Crossmember may be welded or bolted into place. May mount crossmember on top of 1 3" x 3" x 4” piece of angle iron on both ends. Nothing else can be attached to crossmember besides transmission mount. Angle iron cannot cover your cold tilt. No exceptions.
5.May swap rear ends from car to car, no leafing of a non-leafed car. Factory 5 lug rear ends only. May lengthen/shorten control arms to gain correct pinion angle, may cut an overlap a max of 1", no strengthening of control arms. No Watts conversion packs, if running a 98 plus must run stock control arms. Jigging your rearend to fit is ok. If running a braced rearend, it cannot have axle savers or reinforce the car in any way.
6. Engines may be wired/chained in two places. Must be done in a way that doesn't strengthen the car. (For example no welding of steel onto frame rails to run your chain to)
7. May use any air filled tire. No solid or foam filled tires, doubled tires are ok. May use washers, large lug nuts and wheel studs. Must remove wheel weights. May use valve stem protectors, wheel centers (NO FULL CENTERS) and inch and a half bead protectors/locks. No other modifying to rims or tires allowed.
8. Must cut firewall out for engine and transmission to pass through. No pressuring of engine and transmission into firewall or tunnel.
9. Radiator barrel may be used. Must be secured using no more than 6 3/8" diameter bolts connected to top and bottom of core support only. Cannot be connected to the frame or gusseted to core support threaded rod in any way. Must have atleast a 1" gap between barrel and frame on both sides. Barrel must have some sort of pressure relief.
10. If running a carb protector or square tubing that connects to your headers your hood must be cut out at least 3” behind your headers and your protector can in no way be used to strengthen your car. Hood cannot be bolted to carb protector. Protector must be able to pass through firewall without any obstructions.
11. If running a 03 and newer ford the engine must be put in using brackets that cannot be welded to the frame in any way. Use maximum 4” x 4” x 12" x 1/4" Angle iron and bolt them to the top two Spring tower bracket bolts. You can weld steel off of those to create a surface for your motor mounts to be welded to. (Must be a 1⁄4” gap between angle iron and frame an must remain as 2 separate pieces, 1 piece of angle iron with a piece of c channel welded off of that per side to create a surface for motor mount, no additional steel) cannot connect to each other or be gusseted/ bolted/wrapped around or tied into to aluminum cradle or any other part of the frame, no exceptions)
Gas Tank/Battery Box.
1.Stock gas tanks must be removed. 10-gallon max fuel tank must be strapped securely in backseat of car, no bungee straps. Must be properly covered with non-flammable material and cannot be connected to frame in any way.
2. Battery box must be placed on the passenger’s side floorboard and properly secured to sheet metal only. Must be covered with non-flammable material. 2 batteries allowed.
Steering/Suspension/Tires
1. May run aftermarket steering column. May add U-joints to stock columns.
2. No aftermarket/homemade/modified spindles, steering knuckles, A-arms, ball joints, idler arms, center links, pitman arms or shocks. May swap steering boxes as long as they bolt on. All steering components from the steering box to the spindle must be stock and not reinforced in any way except tie rods. Can strengthen or run aftermarket tie rods.
3. No welding or relocating of sway bar. Sway bar must be removed if running a pulley protector on your engine cradle.
4. Front Suspension may be welded or bolted. If welding suspension you can weld a 2” X 1/4” X 8” piece of flat stock going from the upper control arm down to the spring pocket. Maximum of 3” of weld down the spring pocket, 1 per side of car. (2 total). Steel must be ran vertically. No steel from lower a arm to frame.
5. Control arms may not be strengthened in any way.
6. Rear coil springs may be doubled. Rear suspension must work, no solid shocks or threaded rod shocks. 7. May run 1 chain per side around rear end and up to package tray
8. No adding of leaf spring clamps or leaf springs to leaf spring cars.
9. Stock shocks only, no homemade shocks or filling of shocks is allowed.
10. May swap A arms from car to car as long as they bolt on using factory mounts. No modifying of factory a arm or a arm frame mounts allowed.
11. 03 and newer fords must run factory rack and pinion steering and factory 03 an newer upper and lower control arms.
12. Tires must be air filled, doubled tires are ok.
Bumpers/Frames
1. May use any OEM factory bumper from any year car (No mopar V bumpers). Bumpers may be seam welded and loaded. No adding of points to factory bumpers.
2. No homemade or ski inc replica bumpers of any kind. If you choose to manufacture a homemade bumper it must conform to the following size limits. It can be no larger than 6" x 8" x 1⁄4, except the specified middle section. The point must taper over an area of at least 32" wide and can not exceed 12" wide (front to back) at the tip of the point. The point may only extend out 4" from the flat part of the bumper. It may not be stuffed, square tube only. NO STACKING OF TUBING! Must have inspection holes on ends. Atleast 2” in diameter.
3. Must use 80's and newer bumper shocks, no old iron bumper brackets allowed. Bumper shock must be mounted in factory position if being used. 2003 and newer cars cannot run bumper shocks of any kind. Hard nosed only with no added steel for 03s. No altering of crumple zones.
4. Bumpers/Shocks may be welded or bolted on. No adding of metal to do so. No Welds Further back than 4" from bumper for plug weld.
5. Hard nosing is allowed.
6. May have chain or wire in two places but not both to help hold on front and back bumpers. No welding anything to the frame.
7. No plating, loading, bolting, modifying, or filling of frames allowed.
8. No frame seam welding or any welding to the frame unless specified in the rules!!!!!!
9. Pre Ran cars are allowed, may straighten frame an weld a 4” x 4” x 1⁄4” plate on your kinks on two places only. Must be a flat plate an not modified in any way. Text pics or call Josh Oberg at 715-529-8549 with any questions. Frame must be kinked in order to be plated.
10. Humps May be peened, from center of the top of the hump 12” each direction. To create a total span of 24”. No other frame shaping allowed!
11. Cold tilting is the only type of frame modification allowed, an cold tilt CANNOT be located where angle iron is welded to the frame for crossmember.
12. Humps may be wired or chained together in 1 spot.
13. May run 4 chains or wire (not both) going around the frame per side, cannot be connected to cage. Can only be done between the firewall an package tray inside of car.
14. Body mounts must remain stock except for the ones at the core support and the 2 very back ones at the back bumper where you can put a maximum 1/2" bolt. Bolt only to go through trunk floor. No unauthorized repairs to body mounts.
15. May notch and prebend rear frame rails.
16. Cars may shorten front frame rails to the core support, Core support body mount tab on frame must be left intact and in stock location.
17. No other welding on the frame unless specified in rules!!!!
18. May re-stub one horn, must be a butt weld only no plates.. Max 1⁄2” bead.
Cage/Driver Safety
1. Cage Material maximum of 6" diameter material, cage cannot connect to frame.
2. 4 point cage allowed. Cannot be done in a way that strengthens the frame in any way. Door bars may not run further forward than firewall, and must not go further back than the middle of back doors.
3. May have 4 down bars going from the cage to the floor and not through the floor, down bars to be welded to sheet metal only, no plates between down bar and sheet metal.
4. Gas Tank protectors are allowed, cannot be connected to package tray or body. Must come off of backseat bar, cannot be connected to halo. Must be narrower then frame rails at the package tray (humps). No beating of sheetmetal to get closer to package tray.
5. Halo Bars allowed, if running halo bar to the floor that counts as two down bars, cannot be connected to frame. may be bolted to roof in two spots. Halo bar must be ran vertical.
6. You may strap your dash bar with 2" x 1/4" metal from dash bar to cowl (Firewall) in 4 places, no more than 2" of weld on cowl.
7. May run driver window netting in drivers window only.
8. Front Window Bar must go from cowl to roof only, cannot be connected to cage. Maximum of 4" weld on cowl and cannot be used to strengthen car.
9. May also run one bar in rear window track 1⁄4" x 3" wide (may be flat, round, or square) welded or bolted within 6" max of rear window track and no fasten plate larger than 4" diameter. Ran from roof to trunk lid only.
10. Nothing can come in contact with any part of your cage during the derby, if caught will result in immediate disqualification. Feature winners will be checked.
Body
1. Doors may be chained/wired or welded shut. 2 chains or patches per door seam, patches a maximum of 4" X 4" X 1/4".
Drivers door may be welded solid.
2. No creasing, welding, or bolting of body seams unless specified.
3. Speaker deck/trunk may be dished a maximum of 4" from factory location or you may raise your roof 4”. May only do one or the other not both.. Use a straight piece of material to check your measurement. Rear quarter panels may also be dished but not creased.
4. Trunks may be tucked.
5. Trunks may be held down in 6 places with bolts, chains or patches. Patches may not be larger than 4" X 4" X 1/4". Bolts must go from sheet metal to sheet metal only. Two bolts may run to trunk floor, the other four must be connected to the trunk lid lip. Maximum of 3/4" sized bolts. Washers for bolts a maximum size of 4" X 4" X 1/4". Nothing connected to frame.
6. Hood may be held down in 6 locations maximum. Can be chain/wired or bolted. Maximum of 3/4" bolts. Hood hinges DO NOT count against you for these locations. Maximum 3" X 3" X 1/4" angle iron may be welded to fenders or top of hood to bolt your hood down.
7. May run 3/4" threaded rod through core support mounts and through hood. This counts as 2 of your 6 hood hold downs. No other hood hold downs can be connected to frame. Maximum height between core support and frame is 4". No welding of rod or spacer to core support, frame or bumper.
8. May use up to 4 3/8" diameter bolts to bolt front clip together in areas of your choosing. Sheet metal to sheet metal only, no added steel or relocating of factory brackets to strengthen.
9. Rear wheel wells may be bolted together in 4 spots with bolts no bigger than 3/8" diameter.
10. No shortening of front clip or relocating of core support.
11. Hood can have a maximum of 8 3/8" bolts in it to hold the hood seam together. 12. No washers larger then 1/2” fender washers on 3/8” bolts/nuts
Call Josh Oberg 715-529-8549 With any questions.
***SEMI-WELD COMPACT/MIDSIZE CLASS:***
Wheelbase max 112.2” and less, from factory. FWD only.
NO full frame cars, trucks, 4WD/AWD, Pacers or Gremlins allowed.
Engines must be 4 cyl. or 6 cyl. NO V8’s allowed.
1986 and newer Only. If older than 1986, call/text to get approval.
Do NOT build to the grey areas.
BODY:
Doors may be welded or chained shut on the outside door seams in 2 spots per seam. 4 doors can have a maximum of 18 patches per side and 2 doors could have a maximum of 12 patches per side. Patches can be no bigger then 4" X 4" X1/4" and must be 1 foot apart. Duct tape can be used but can only be 4” wide strips and each spot will count as one plate. Drivers door may be reinforced and welded solid for drivers safety. Window nets are allowed, can only run the size of the drivers door window opening. Cutting fenders for tire clearance is allowed, May have 4 3/8" bolts per wheel well. Fender creasing is allowed.
TRUNK:
Trunk may be secured in 8 locations, 2 per seam with 8- 3/8" bolts or may weld 8- 4” X 4” X 1/4” Plates. You may have 2 pieces of 3/4" rod holding trunk down also this counts as 2 of your 8 cv hold downs. If using threaded rod, you may use maximum washer size of 4”x 4”x 1/4” on top of trunk ONLY. NO BINDERS. Tucking 50% of trunk lid is allowed, you may also crease/dish trunk a max. of 6 inches in center from stock location. Rear window bars allowed (No larger than 2” X 2” X 1/4” square tubing and MUST be located within 6” of rear window track with a mounting pad NO larger then 4” X 4” x 1/4”. NO Chains, Bar only! Rear window bar can NOT be connected to the halo bar and MUST have a 6” clearance from the halo bar itself. Roof MUST remain in stock position. NO wedging of the roof.
HOOD:
Hoods may be fastened shut in 6 locations with 3/4” rod, 3 loops of #9 wire, or 3/8 chain with the exception, you may run 1” rod at core support only. (These 2 are included in the 6 total.) Other 4 locations MUST be sheet metal to sheet metal only. Locations may NOT connect together, they must be separate. If using threaded rod, you may use maximum washer size of 4”x 4”x 1/4” on top of hood ONLY. Hoods MUST be open for inspection and MUST have a hole large enough for fire extinguisher access. Hood may have 6 3/8" bolts in it with 3/8" washers max. 5 inch max. washer on top of hood for hood bolt hold down.
BODY MOUNTS:
Two front subframe mounts may be removed and use 1” bolt to bolt solid, you will also be allowed to add 2 extra 3/4 body mounts from front-side of lower a-arm forward for extra cradle support this rod MUST remain completely vertical welded to sub and frame rail, NO adding plates, rod only. The rest of frame and mounts MUST be stock only without any added bolts, wire, plates, or welding.
SUSPENSION:
Struts, shocks, control arms, ball joints MUST be stock only, may weld or clamp strut shaft to gain height, but NO adding metal! NO REINFORCING STRUT, OR REAR TRAILING ARMS, NO adding metal! Rear axle must remain stock. NO solid axles. This will be strictly enforced!! Factory tie-rods may be reinforced with a piece of 1x1 angle iron 1/4” thickness max or 1 piece of 1/2” thickness max rebar or threaded rod. If rear trailing arm is broken or rusted off, you must get approval for repairs from Tim Myer by sending pictures to 507-421-1521, no other unauthorized repairs.
CRADLE/ SUBFRAME:
NO welding of seams, plating, altering, pinning, reinforcing on the frame and subframe, MUST remain completely stock. Motor mounts can be made solid if not reinforcing engine or body. Engine may also be wired or chained in two locations, but can NOT reinforce the car. Engines can be converted to carb, modify ign. Switches, headers, after-market gas and brake pedals are allowed. You are allowed to run Radi-barrels as long as they're bolted to core support only with 4 3/8" bolts max. NO kickers or motor mounts connected to the radi barrel. May run radiator guard as long as its done in the same manner and is only the size of the radiator opening. NO engine cradles, NO pulley protectors, or NO other protectors except carb and gas tank protectors. Carb protectors are allowed as long as they only bolt to your engine and are NOT used for structural support.
PRE RANS:
You may only use 1 fix it plate on each frame rail with a 4” X 4” X 1/4” plate. Only 2 locations total! Must once again get approval from Tim Myer by sending pictures to 507-421-1521. NO other unauthorized repairs.
TRANSMISSION:
Transmission coolers are allowed, may alter transmission linkage, If 4wd MUST disable one axle housing.
TIRES:
Any ply tire allowed, stuffed ok, Stem protectors allowed, wheel weights MUST be removed. May add an outer flap (extra sidewall) to outer side of tire for protection may screw or glue beads to rims. MUST use factory rims on front wheels only. NO wheel centers(small wheel centers are ok), NO bead-locks, NO rim or NO tire protectors. For the rear axle, you may use forklift solid tires.
FUEL:
Fuel tanks MUST be removed and located in back seat area covered with non flammable material, securely fastened, NO bungee straps. If running electric fuel pump power source MUST be well labeled (fuel pump) in large bold lettering. Fuel tank protectors can NOT be any larger than 28” wide. Protectors must NOT be any higher than the speaker deck, MUST be floating and can NOT touch any sheet metal. You may connect your tank protector to the halo bar, but do NOT overkill or it will get cut. Can NOT go through the roof.
BATTERIES:
Two batteries allowed and MUST be moved to passenger front seat area covered with nonflammable item securely fastened, NO bungee straps.
CAGE:
You are allowed a floating 4 point cage, dash-bar, seat-bar, side-bars connecting both, with a center-bar, and a halo bar with all components NOT exceeding a maximum diameter of 4inch. You may NOT have any other metal plates or sheets of metal connected to the cage. 8x8 plates are allowed on ends of seat and dash-bar. Four 2”x 4” down bars are allowed but NO welding to the sheet metal. All cage material can be NO further forward than firewall (no contoured pieces) and NO further rearwards of the most forward side of rear wheel well tubs including tank protectors, (2 WINDSHIELD BARS 2 inch max diameter OR #9 WIRE) Added bars in front of the driver windshield area from the wiper cowl up to the roof will be recommended to keep hood from coming into drivers compartment, but MUST have 6” clearance to the halo bar. The attachment point bolted or welded NO more than 5 inch square. You may also have drivers door window netting. NO wire in any other window openings. NO wire from roof to any location other than specified.
BUMPER:
Any seam welded, internally reinforced automotive car bumper may be used except (chrysler v bumpers). Bumpers MUST be cut down to fit width of car. If u choose not to run a car bumper, homemade front bumpers will be permitted but can NOT be stuffed. If you choose to manufacture a homemade bumper it must conform to the following size limits. It can be NO larger than 2” x 8” x 1/4" , except the specified middle section. The point must taper over an area of at least 32” The point may only extend 4” from the front part of the bumper. NO filling the point of the bumper. NO stacking of tubing. Inspection holes MUST be made on each end of the bumper.
BUMPER MOUNTING:
For mounting purposes you will be allowed to add a piece of tube up to 4x4-1/4”thick and 8” long max. They may be slid into frame and welded to your desired depth. May plug weld up to 8” from back of bumper. You may also use the aid of a flat mount plate per frame-rail up to 5x5-1/4” thickness. The 5x5x1/4” plate MUST be butt welded to the bumper. Hard nosing is ok. The crush zones on the front frame rail may be removed. In addition, bumpers MUST be wired, or chained, two locations to frame or to core support. We do NOT want them falling off!! NO adding any other bumper brackets/bumper shocks, or any kind of metal other than specified. IF THE RULES DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT ASSUME THAT YOU CAN DO IT!!
WE WILL BE DRILLING & SCOPING, IF FOUND WITH CRADLE WELDING OR REINFORCING, FRAME STUFFING, or ANYTHING ELSE DONE OUTSIDE THE RULES, YOU CAN EXPECT YOURSELF TO GET LOADED. You will get ONE chance after the initial tech to correct or cut, if you do NOT pass retech inspection after that, you will be loaded. ALL JUDGES DECISIONS ARE FINAL!!
CONSIDER THIS YOUR WARNING!!!
Once again, do NOT build to the grey areas. IF THE RULES DO NOT SAY IT, DO NOT ASSUME THAT YOU CAN DO IT!! Call/Text Tim “Hollywood” Myer at 507-421-1521. Everything WILL be documented!!
*FWD COMPACT/MIDSIZE CHAIN CLASS:***
General Rules:
Front Wheel Drive Cars Only.
No wheelbase limit, must be FWD from factory.
4 cyl and 6 cyl cars. NO V8s or Full Frame cars allowed.
Absolutely NO welding unless specified!
All plastic, lights, and glass MUST be removed.
Do NOT build to the grey areas.
Cage:
4 point floating cage with halo allowed: 1 dash bar, 1 sidebar per side, 1 backseat bar allowed. Can NOT be contoured to the firewall or have any extra metal added. The door bars can NOT go any further back than 8” from the center of the B Pillar.
You may have a floating gas tank protector off the backseat bar. MUST be a minimum of 6” away from sheet metal and back seat area. If floating tank protector is NOT used, the gas tank MUST be secured tightly in four spots, as well as the battery. (Judges Discretion will be used.) Gas tank MUST be metal, no plastic tanks allowed. Battery and Gas Tank MUST be removed from stock location and covered with rubber mat.
Body Mounts:
Body Mounts MUST remain factory stock unless rusted out. If rusted out, you may replace it with same size bolts.
Stock body pucks MUST remain in place.
Doors, Hood & Trunk:
Chain, wire, or use 4”x4”x1/4” plates to shut doors. Can use a total of 4 locations per door, 6 locations total for the hood and 6 locations total for the trunk.
Drivers door can be welded shut.
Engine:
MUST be 4 cyl or 6 cyl. NO v8s allowed.
Engines can be converted to carb, but NO carb protector unless bolted directly to the engine. ANY overkill and you WILL be forced to remove it.
NO radi-barrels, NO engine cradles, NO other protectors besides the carb.
Aftermarket:
Gas/Brake Pedals allowed as long it’s NOT for structural support.
Shifter Allowed.
Headers Allowed.
***NO other aftermarket parts allowed!!***
Bumpers:
Stock Bumper MUST be used for the car you are running.
If stock bumper is plastic, you may interchange it with a tin one off another FWD style car. NO stuffing or seam welding.
Bumper MUST bolt on and/or can use 1/4” bead of weld around the mounting point to mount your bumper. NO other added metal! This will be heavily enforced!!
Tires:
Any tire is allowed, but NO bead-locks, NO rim or NO tire protectors!
Pre-Rans:
(2) 5”x5”x1/4” fix it plates may be used to weld bumper back on if you need to. Plates can NOT be split up, must stay 5”x5”. If these two plates aren’t enough, build a new car!
Suspension:
You can clamp up suspension to get desired ride height but NO adding any other metal!!
NO welding struts, tie rods, bumpers, motor mounts, doors other than what has been specified!
Motor Mounts:
Top 2 motor mounts may be changed to 2”x2”x1/4” square tubing, but MUST be bolted in.
***This is an easy, fun, throw together class. If you want to do more than what is allowed, we have a weld class. Rules are simple, follow them. Once again, do NOT build to the grey areas. If it says you CAN’T do it, DON’T do it!! Strip the car, weld in the cage, move your battery and gas tank, chain doors, and have some fun.***
If overbuilt, you will have one of two options, load it up or run it in the weld class, (as long as it’s safe, judges discretion will be used.)
ALL JUDGES DECISIONS ARE FINAL!!!
Any questions, call/text Tim “Hollywood” Myer at (507)421-1521 Everything WILL be documented!!!
Saturday, May 30th.
2:30 PM the derby starts.
In case of bad weather, the derby will be moved to Sunday, May 31st.
Inspection starts at 8 AM ends at 1PM!!!
ENTRY / PIT / DRIVER RULES AND INFORMATION:
3 classes
80's and newer 1st place: $2000 2nd: 1200 3rd: 600 4th: 300
Compacts 1st place: $1500 2nd: 600 3rd: 300 4th: 100
Stock compacts 1st place: $1000 2nd: 500 3rd: 200 4th: 100
We will also be running a power wheels class before the derby all kids will receive ribbons. Ages 4-9. Free entry.
We WILL be running heats depending on car count. (So bring extra parts and tools)!!
Entry Fee of $50 if pre-registered and paid by May 22. Contact Matt Skoglund for more information.
Entry Fee of $70 if paid after May 22 or day of event.
Entry fee covers the car and driver ONLY .
$50 LATE FEE for drivers that show up after 1pm.
Pit Passes $15
Derby only adults $10 kids $5
Must be 18 years of age or older to be in the derby. ID required – ANY driver may be asked for ID.
All drivers MUST attend the Driver’s Meeting before the derby!!
ANY VEHICLES HAT WE BELIEVE TO BE UNSAFE, WILL NOT RUN!!!
Call Call Matt Skoglund with any general questions 715-410-1429
Call Josh Oberg with any 80’s and newer questions 715-529-8549
Call Tim “HOLLYWOOD” Myer with any compact questions 507-421-1521
***BATTLE AT THE BORDER 1980s and NEWER RULES:***
1980 and newer Fords 1980 and newer Mopar 1977 and newer GMs (only metric cars) General Rules
1. All #9 wire used can only be 3 strands, and chain maximum size of 7/16"
2. If not specified in rules don't assume you can do it, call first.
3. Must remain stock unless specified in rules.
4. Anything you do to prevent the bending of your car will be prohibited an result in disqualification. 5. Read these rules. Then when you’re done, read them again.
6. No building to any gray areas, inspectors decisions final.
Drivetrain
1. Any Engine/Transmission combination may be used.
2. Allowed: Braced rearends, pinion brakes, aftermarket axles, slider driveshafts, engine cradles (if using a cradle with a pulley protector, the sway bar must be removed), weld in centers for rims, tranny coolers, aftermarket gas pedals, brake pedals (may not strengthen car), shifters, distributor clamps, radiator barrels, carb protectors and solid lower motor mounts.
3. Not Allowed: Mopar V bumpers, top pulley protectors, distributor protectors, mid plates,
transmission braces, aftermarket steel or aluminum bellhousings, steel tail shafts, axle savers, truck rear ends, and no painted frames.
4. May use one 2x2x1/4" piece of square tubing for a crossmember, must go straight across from frame rail to frame rail, no kickers off of crossmember. Crossmember may be welded or bolted into place. May mount crossmember on top of 1 3" x 3" x 4” piece of angle iron on both ends. Nothing else can be attached to crossmember besides transmission mount. Angle iron cannot cover your cold tilt. No exceptions.
5.May swap rear ends from car to car, no leafing of a non-leafed car. Factory 5 lug rear ends only. May lengthen/shorten control arms to gain correct pinion angle, may cut an overlap a max of 1", no strengthening of control arms. No Watts conversion packs, if running a 98 plus must run stock control arms. Jigging your rearend to fit is ok. If running a braced rearend, it cannot have axle savers or reinforce the car in any way.
6. Engines may be wired/chained in two places. Must be done in a way that doesn't strengthen the car. (For example no welding of steel onto frame rails to run your chain to)
7. May use any air filled tire. No solid or foam filled tires, doubled tires are ok. May use washers, large lug nuts and wheel studs. Must remove wheel weights. May use valve stem protectors, wheel centers (NO FULL CENTERS) and inch and a half bead protectors/locks. No other modifying to rims or tires allowed.
8. Must cut firewall out for engine and transmission to pass through. No pressuring of engine and transmission into firewall or tunnel.
9. Radiator barrel may be used. Must be secured using no more than 6 3/8" diameter bolts connected to top and bottom of core support only. Cannot be connected to the frame or gusseted to core support threaded rod in any way. Must have atleast a 1" gap between barrel and frame on both sides. Barrel must have some sort of pressure relief.
10. If running a carb protector or square tubing that connects to your headers your hood must be cut out at least 3” behind your headers and your protector can in no way be used to strengthen your car. Hood cannot be bolted to carb protector. Protector must be able to pass through firewall without any obstructions.
11. If running a 03 and newer ford the engine must be put in using brackets that cannot be welded to the frame in any way. Use maximum 4” x 4” x 12" x 1/4" Angle iron and bolt them to the top two Spring tower bracket bolts. You can weld steel off of those to create a surface for your motor mounts to be welded to. (Must be a 1⁄4” gap between angle iron and frame an must remain as 2 separate pieces, 1 piece of angle iron with a piece of c channel welded off of that per side to create a surface for motor mount, no additional steel) cannot connect to each other or be gusseted/ bolted/wrapped around or tied into to aluminum cradle or any other part of the frame, no exceptions)
Gas Tank/Battery Box.
1.Stock gas tanks must be removed. 10-gallon max fuel tank must be strapped securely in backseat of car, no bungee straps. Must be properly covered with non-flammable material and cannot be connected to frame in any way.
2. Battery box must be placed on the passenger’s side floorboard and properly secured to sheet metal only. Must be covered with non-flammable material. 2 batteries allowed.
Steering/Suspension/Tires
1. May run aftermarket steering column. May add U-joints to stock columns.
2. No aftermarket/homemade/modified spindles, steering knuckles, A-arms, ball joints, idler arms, center links, pitman arms or shocks. May swap steering boxes as long as they bolt on. All steering components from the steering box to the spindle must be stock and not reinforced in any way except tie rods. Can strengthen or run aftermarket tie rods.
3. No welding or relocating of sway bar. Sway bar must be removed if running a pulley protector on your engine cradle.
4. Front Suspension may be welded or bolted. If welding suspension you can weld a 2” X 1/4” X 8” piece of flat stock going from the upper control arm down to the spring pocket. Maximum of 3” of weld down the spring pocket, 1 per side of car. (2 total). Steel must be ran vertically. No steel from lower a arm to frame.
5. Control arms may not be strengthened in any way.
6. Rear coil springs may be doubled. Rear suspension must work, no solid shocks or threaded rod shocks. 7. May run 1 chain per side around rear end and up to package tray
8. No adding of leaf spring clamps or leaf springs to leaf spring cars.
9. Stock shocks only, no homemade shocks or filling of shocks is allowed.
10. May swap A arms from car to car as long as they bolt on using factory mounts. No modifying of factory a arm or a arm frame mounts allowed.
11. 03 and newer fords must run factory rack and pinion steering and factory 03 an newer upper and lower control arms.
12. Tires must be air filled, doubled tires are ok.
Bumpers/Frames
1. May use any OEM factory bumper from any year car (No mopar V bumpers). Bumpers may be seam welded and loaded. No adding of points to factory bumpers.
2. No homemade or ski inc replica bumpers of any kind. If you choose to manufacture a homemade bumper it must conform to the following size limits. It can be no larger than 6" x 8" x 1⁄4, except the specified middle section. The point must taper over an area of at least 32" wide and can not exceed 12" wide (front to back) at the tip of the point. The point may only extend out 4" from the flat part of the bumper. It may not be stuffed, square tube only. NO STACKING OF TUBING! Must have inspection holes on ends. Atleast 2” in diameter.
3. Must use 80's and newer bumper shocks, no old iron bumper brackets allowed. Bumper shock must be mounted in factory position if being used. 2003 and newer cars cannot run bumper shocks of any kind. Hard nosed only with no added steel for 03s. No altering of crumple zones.
4. Bumpers/Shocks may be welded or bolted on. No adding of metal to do so. No Welds Further back than 4" from bumper for plug weld.
5. Hard nosing is allowed.
6. May have chain or wire in two places but not both to help hold on front and back bumpers. No welding anything to the frame.
7. No plating, loading, bolting, modifying, or filling of frames allowed.
8. No frame seam welding or any welding to the frame unless specified in the rules!!!!!!
9. Pre Ran cars are allowed, may straighten frame an weld a 4” x 4” x 1⁄4” plate on your kinks on two places only. Must be a flat plate an not modified in any way. Text pics or call Josh Oberg at 715-529-8549 with any questions. Frame must be kinked in order to be plated.
10. Humps May be peened, from center of the top of the hump 12” each direction. To create a total span of 24”. No other frame shaping allowed!
11. Cold tilting is the only type of frame modification allowed, an cold tilt CANNOT be located where angle iron is welded to the frame for crossmember.
12. Humps may be wired or chained together in 1 spot.
13. May run 4 chains or wire (not both) going around the frame per side, cannot be connected to cage. Can only be done between the firewall an package tray inside of car.
14. Body mounts must remain stock except for the ones at the core support and the 2 very back ones at the back bumper where you can put a maximum 1/2" bolt. Bolt only to go through trunk floor. No unauthorized repairs to body mounts.
15. May notch and prebend rear frame rails.
16. Cars may shorten front frame rails to the core support, Core support body mount tab on frame must be left intact and in stock location.
17. No other welding on the frame unless specified in rules!!!!
18. May re-stub one horn, must be a butt weld only no plates.. Max 1⁄2” bead.
Cage/Driver Safety
1. Cage Material maximum of 6" diameter material, cage cannot connect to frame.
2. 4 point cage allowed. Cannot be done in a way that strengthens the frame in any way. Door bars may not run further forward than firewall, and must not go further back than the middle of back doors.
3. May have 4 down bars going from the cage to the floor and not through the floor, down bars to be welded to sheet metal only, no plates between down bar and sheet metal.
4. Gas Tank protectors are allowed, cannot be connected to package tray or body. Must come off of backseat bar, cannot be connected to halo. Must be narrower then frame rails at the package tray (humps). No beating of sheetmetal to get closer to package tray.
5. Halo Bars allowed, if running halo bar to the floor that counts as two down bars, cannot be connected to frame. may be bolted to roof in two spots. Halo bar must be ran vertical.
6. You may strap your dash bar with 2" x 1/4" metal from dash bar to cowl (Firewall) in 4 places, no more than 2" of weld on cowl.
7. May run driver window netting in drivers window only.
8. Front Window Bar must go from cowl to roof only, cannot be connected to cage. Maximum of 4" weld on cowl and cannot be used to strengthen car.
9. May also run one bar in rear window track 1⁄4" x 3" wide (may be flat, round, or square) welded or bolted within 6" max of rear window track and no fasten plate larger than 4" diameter. Ran from roof to trunk lid only.
10. Nothing can come in contact with any part of your cage during the derby, if caught will result in immediate disqualification. Feature winners will be checked.
Body
1. Doors may be chained/wired or welded shut. 2 chains or patches per door seam, patches a maximum of 4" X 4" X 1/4".
Drivers door may be welded solid.
2. No creasing, welding, or bolting of body seams unless specified.
3. Speaker deck/trunk may be dished a maximum of 4" from factory location or you may raise your roof 4”. May only do one or the other not both.. Use a straight piece of material to check your measurement. Rear quarter panels may also be dished but not creased.
4. Trunks may be tucked.
5. Trunks may be held down in 6 places with bolts, chains or patches. Patches may not be larger than 4" X 4" X 1/4". Bolts must go from sheet metal to sheet metal only. Two bolts may run to trunk floor, the other four must be connected to the trunk lid lip. Maximum of 3/4" sized bolts. Washers for bolts a maximum size of 4" X 4" X 1/4". Nothing connected to frame.
6. Hood may be held down in 6 locations maximum. Can be chain/wired or bolted. Maximum of 3/4" bolts. Hood hinges DO NOT count against you for these locations. Maximum 3" X 3" X 1/4" angle iron may be welded to fenders or top of hood to bolt your hood down.
7. May run 3/4" threaded rod through core support mounts and through hood. This counts as 2 of your 6 hood hold downs. No other hood hold downs can be connected to frame. Maximum height between core support and frame is 4". No welding of rod or spacer to core support, frame or bumper.
8. May use up to 4 3/8" diameter bolts to bolt front clip together in areas of your choosing. Sheet metal to sheet metal only, no added steel or relocating of factory brackets to strengthen.
9. Rear wheel wells may be bolted together in 4 spots with bolts no bigger than 3/8" diameter.
10. No shortening of front clip or relocating of core support.
11. Hood can have a maximum of 8 3/8" bolts in it to hold the hood seam together. 12. No washers larger then 1/2” fender washers on 3/8” bolts/nuts
Call Josh Oberg 715-529-8549 With any questions.
***SEMI-WELD COMPACT/MIDSIZE CLASS:***
Wheelbase max 112.2” and less, from factory. FWD only.
NO full frame cars, trucks, 4WD/AWD, Pacers or Gremlins allowed.
Engines must be 4 cyl. or 6 cyl. NO V8’s allowed.
1986 and newer Only. If older than 1986, call/text to get approval.
Do NOT build to the grey areas.
BODY:
Doors may be welded or chained shut on the outside door seams in 2 spots per seam. 4 doors can have a maximum of 18 patches per side and 2 doors could have a maximum of 12 patches per side. Patches can be no bigger then 4" X 4" X1/4" and must be 1 foot apart. Duct tape can be used but can only be 4” wide strips and each spot will count as one plate. Drivers door may be reinforced and welded solid for drivers safety. Window nets are allowed, can only run the size of the drivers door window opening. Cutting fenders for tire clearance is allowed, May have 4 3/8" bolts per wheel well. Fender creasing is allowed.
TRUNK:
Trunk may be secured in 8 locations, 2 per seam with 8- 3/8" bolts or may weld 8- 4” X 4” X 1/4” Plates. You may have 2 pieces of 3/4" rod holding trunk down also this counts as 2 of your 8 cv hold downs. If using threaded rod, you may use maximum washer size of 4”x 4”x 1/4” on top of trunk ONLY. NO BINDERS. Tucking 50% of trunk lid is allowed, you may also crease/dish trunk a max. of 6 inches in center from stock location. Rear window bars allowed (No larger than 2” X 2” X 1/4” square tubing and MUST be located within 6” of rear window track with a mounting pad NO larger then 4” X 4” x 1/4”. NO Chains, Bar only! Rear window bar can NOT be connected to the halo bar and MUST have a 6” clearance from the halo bar itself. Roof MUST remain in stock position. NO wedging of the roof.
HOOD:
Hoods may be fastened shut in 6 locations with 3/4” rod, 3 loops of #9 wire, or 3/8 chain with the exception, you may run 1” rod at core support only. (These 2 are included in the 6 total.) Other 4 locations MUST be sheet metal to sheet metal only. Locations may NOT connect together, they must be separate. If using threaded rod, you may use maximum washer size of 4”x 4”x 1/4” on top of hood ONLY. Hoods MUST be open for inspection and MUST have a hole large enough for fire extinguisher access. Hood may have 6 3/8" bolts in it with 3/8" washers max. 5 inch max. washer on top of hood for hood bolt hold down.
BODY MOUNTS:
Two front subframe mounts may be removed and use 1” bolt to bolt solid, you will also be allowed to add 2 extra 3/4 body mounts from front-side of lower a-arm forward for extra cradle support this rod MUST remain completely vertical welded to sub and frame rail, NO adding plates, rod only. The rest of frame and mounts MUST be stock only without any added bolts, wire, plates, or welding.
SUSPENSION:
Struts, shocks, control arms, ball joints MUST be stock only, may weld or clamp strut shaft to gain height, but NO adding metal! NO REINFORCING STRUT, OR REAR TRAILING ARMS, NO adding metal! Rear axle must remain stock. NO solid axles. This will be strictly enforced!! Factory tie-rods may be reinforced with a piece of 1x1 angle iron 1/4” thickness max or 1 piece of 1/2” thickness max rebar or threaded rod. If rear trailing arm is broken or rusted off, you must get approval for repairs from Tim Myer by sending pictures to 507-421-1521, no other unauthorized repairs.
CRADLE/ SUBFRAME:
NO welding of seams, plating, altering, pinning, reinforcing on the frame and subframe, MUST remain completely stock. Motor mounts can be made solid if not reinforcing engine or body. Engine may also be wired or chained in two locations, but can NOT reinforce the car. Engines can be converted to carb, modify ign. Switches, headers, after-market gas and brake pedals are allowed. You are allowed to run Radi-barrels as long as they're bolted to core support only with 4 3/8" bolts max. NO kickers or motor mounts connected to the radi barrel. May run radiator guard as long as its done in the same manner and is only the size of the radiator opening. NO engine cradles, NO pulley protectors, or NO other protectors except carb and gas tank protectors. Carb protectors are allowed as long as they only bolt to your engine and are NOT used for structural support.
PRE RANS:
You may only use 1 fix it plate on each frame rail with a 4” X 4” X 1/4” plate. Only 2 locations total! Must once again get approval from Tim Myer by sending pictures to 507-421-1521. NO other unauthorized repairs.
TRANSMISSION:
Transmission coolers are allowed, may alter transmission linkage, If 4wd MUST disable one axle housing.
TIRES:
Any ply tire allowed, stuffed ok, Stem protectors allowed, wheel weights MUST be removed. May add an outer flap (extra sidewall) to outer side of tire for protection may screw or glue beads to rims. MUST use factory rims on front wheels only. NO wheel centers(small wheel centers are ok), NO bead-locks, NO rim or NO tire protectors. For the rear axle, you may use forklift solid tires.
FUEL:
Fuel tanks MUST be removed and located in back seat area covered with non flammable material, securely fastened, NO bungee straps. If running electric fuel pump power source MUST be well labeled (fuel pump) in large bold lettering. Fuel tank protectors can NOT be any larger than 28” wide. Protectors must NOT be any higher than the speaker deck, MUST be floating and can NOT touch any sheet metal. You may connect your tank protector to the halo bar, but do NOT overkill or it will get cut. Can NOT go through the roof.
BATTERIES:
Two batteries allowed and MUST be moved to passenger front seat area covered with nonflammable item securely fastened, NO bungee straps.
CAGE:
You are allowed a floating 4 point cage, dash-bar, seat-bar, side-bars connecting both, with a center-bar, and a halo bar with all components NOT exceeding a maximum diameter of 4inch. You may NOT have any other metal plates or sheets of metal connected to the cage. 8x8 plates are allowed on ends of seat and dash-bar. Four 2”x 4” down bars are allowed but NO welding to the sheet metal. All cage material can be NO further forward than firewall (no contoured pieces) and NO further rearwards of the most forward side of rear wheel well tubs including tank protectors, (2 WINDSHIELD BARS 2 inch max diameter OR #9 WIRE) Added bars in front of the driver windshield area from the wiper cowl up to the roof will be recommended to keep hood from coming into drivers compartment, but MUST have 6” clearance to the halo bar. The attachment point bolted or welded NO more than 5 inch square. You may also have drivers door window netting. NO wire in any other window openings. NO wire from roof to any location other than specified.
BUMPER:
Any seam welded, internally reinforced automotive car bumper may be used except (chrysler v bumpers). Bumpers MUST be cut down to fit width of car. If u choose not to run a car bumper, homemade front bumpers will be permitted but can NOT be stuffed. If you choose to manufacture a homemade bumper it must conform to the following size limits. It can be NO larger than 2” x 8” x 1/4" , except the specified middle section. The point must taper over an area of at least 32” The point may only extend 4” from the front part of the bumper. NO filling the point of the bumper. NO stacking of tubing. Inspection holes MUST be made on each end of the bumper.
BUMPER MOUNTING:
For mounting purposes you will be allowed to add a piece of tube up to 4x4-1/4”thick and 8” long max. They may be slid into frame and welded to your desired depth. May plug weld up to 8” from back of bumper. You may also use the aid of a flat mount plate per frame-rail up to 5x5-1/4” thickness. The 5x5x1/4” plate MUST be butt welded to the bumper. Hard nosing is ok. The crush zones on the front frame rail may be removed. In addition, bumpers MUST be wired, or chained, two locations to frame or to core support. We do NOT want them falling off!! NO adding any other bumper brackets/bumper shocks, or any kind of metal other than specified. IF THE RULES DO NOT SAY IT DO NOT ASSUME THAT YOU CAN DO IT!!
WE WILL BE DRILLING & SCOPING, IF FOUND WITH CRADLE WELDING OR REINFORCING, FRAME STUFFING, or ANYTHING ELSE DONE OUTSIDE THE RULES, YOU CAN EXPECT YOURSELF TO GET LOADED. You will get ONE chance after the initial tech to correct or cut, if you do NOT pass retech inspection after that, you will be loaded. ALL JUDGES DECISIONS ARE FINAL!!
CONSIDER THIS YOUR WARNING!!!
Once again, do NOT build to the grey areas. IF THE RULES DO NOT SAY IT, DO NOT ASSUME THAT YOU CAN DO IT!! Call/Text Tim “Hollywood” Myer at 507-421-1521. Everything WILL be documented!!
*FWD COMPACT/MIDSIZE CHAIN CLASS:***
General Rules:
Front Wheel Drive Cars Only.
No wheelbase limit, must be FWD from factory.
4 cyl and 6 cyl cars. NO V8s or Full Frame cars allowed.
Absolutely NO welding unless specified!
All plastic, lights, and glass MUST be removed.
Do NOT build to the grey areas.
Cage:
4 point floating cage with halo allowed: 1 dash bar, 1 sidebar per side, 1 backseat bar allowed. Can NOT be contoured to the firewall or have any extra metal added. The door bars can NOT go any further back than 8” from the center of the B Pillar.
You may have a floating gas tank protector off the backseat bar. MUST be a minimum of 6” away from sheet metal and back seat area. If floating tank protector is NOT used, the gas tank MUST be secured tightly in four spots, as well as the battery. (Judges Discretion will be used.) Gas tank MUST be metal, no plastic tanks allowed. Battery and Gas Tank MUST be removed from stock location and covered with rubber mat.
Body Mounts:
Body Mounts MUST remain factory stock unless rusted out. If rusted out, you may replace it with same size bolts.
Stock body pucks MUST remain in place.
Doors, Hood & Trunk:
Chain, wire, or use 4”x4”x1/4” plates to shut doors. Can use a total of 4 locations per door, 6 locations total for the hood and 6 locations total for the trunk.
Drivers door can be welded shut.
Engine:
MUST be 4 cyl or 6 cyl. NO v8s allowed.
Engines can be converted to carb, but NO carb protector unless bolted directly to the engine. ANY overkill and you WILL be forced to remove it.
NO radi-barrels, NO engine cradles, NO other protectors besides the carb.
Aftermarket:
Gas/Brake Pedals allowed as long it’s NOT for structural support.
Shifter Allowed.
Headers Allowed.
***NO other aftermarket parts allowed!!***
Bumpers:
Stock Bumper MUST be used for the car you are running.
If stock bumper is plastic, you may interchange it with a tin one off another FWD style car. NO stuffing or seam welding.
Bumper MUST bolt on and/or can use 1/4” bead of weld around the mounting point to mount your bumper. NO other added metal! This will be heavily enforced!!
Tires:
Any tire is allowed, but NO bead-locks, NO rim or NO tire protectors!
Pre-Rans:
(2) 5”x5”x1/4” fix it plates may be used to weld bumper back on if you need to. Plates can NOT be split up, must stay 5”x5”. If these two plates aren’t enough, build a new car!
Suspension:
You can clamp up suspension to get desired ride height but NO adding any other metal!!
NO welding struts, tie rods, bumpers, motor mounts, doors other than what has been specified!
Motor Mounts:
Top 2 motor mounts may be changed to 2”x2”x1/4” square tubing, but MUST be bolted in.
***This is an easy, fun, throw together class. If you want to do more than what is allowed, we have a weld class. Rules are simple, follow them. Once again, do NOT build to the grey areas. If it says you CAN’T do it, DON’T do it!! Strip the car, weld in the cage, move your battery and gas tank, chain doors, and have some fun.***
If overbuilt, you will have one of two options, load it up or run it in the weld class, (as long as it’s safe, judges discretion will be used.)
ALL JUDGES DECISIONS ARE FINAL!!!
Any questions, call/text Tim “Hollywood” Myer at (507)421-1521 Everything WILL be documented!!!