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Post by boilermaker on Aug 27, 2019 8:23:01 GMT -5
I'm building my first mod vic. I'm running a full Ski cradle, near bell, near trans brace and near tail. With the distributor distance rules and using the cradle I can basically push the the cradle all the way to the dash bar. If I weld the dash bar flush with the inside of the firewall. Am I better to pressure the motor back with the bar in or leave it out then weld later.
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Post by cheezwhiz31 on Aug 27, 2019 9:32:11 GMT -5
I'm building my first mod vic. I'm running a full Ski cradle, near bell, near trans brace and near tail. With the distributor distance rules and using the cradle I can basically push the the cradle all the way to the dash bar. If I weld the dash bar flush with the inside of the firewall. Am I better to pressure the motor back with the bar in or leave it out then weld later. depends on what means you have to install dash bar once engine is pressured in. There are many different ways to go about this. If your body is already bolted down tight and you have a porta power to push dash bar in then i'd get engine and trans in and leveled out so then you can get bar on top of trans brace and against the DP tight. Otherwise if your just trying to get it tight to the dash bar and can't have it on the trans then you can put the bar in then push DP tight...
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Post by boilermaker on Aug 27, 2019 12:34:42 GMT -5
I'm building my first mod vic. I'm running a full Ski cradle, near bell, near trans brace and near tail. With the distributor distance rules and using the cradle I can basically push the the cradle all the way to the dash bar. If I weld the dash bar flush with the inside of the firewall. Am I better to pressure the motor back with the bar in or leave it out then weld later. depends on what means you have to install dash bar once engine is pressured in. There are many different ways to go about this. If your body is already bolted down tight and you have a porta power to push dash bar in then i'd get engine and trans in and leveled out so then you can get bar on top of trans brace and against the DP tight. Otherwise if your just trying to get it tight to the dash bar and can't have it on the trans then you can put the bar in then push DP tight... I am just now starting the cage. So far all thats in the car are the door bars. Dash bar has to be 5" above the trans tunnel. Motor is still out and nothing body wise has been tightened down. '
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Post by nick18sf on Aug 28, 2019 7:31:28 GMT -5
An EPR car showed up down here one year,an the front frame rails were a work of art,I never would of thought of anything like that..it was impressive U talking razorback in like 2015? Is there a picture of this or can you describe what was done to the frame? It sounds very interesting.
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Post by owen11x on Aug 28, 2019 7:36:18 GMT -5
U talking razorback in like 2015? Is there a picture of this or can you describe what was done to the frame? It sounds very interesting. If i had to guess he was referring to when everyone was squaring the rails and creasing rails and the amount they had horns pulled in. Adam always had great creative builds
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Post by DerbyKing88s on Aug 28, 2019 11:11:56 GMT -5
That would be my guess as well. I don’t know if any pics floating around but I did look at and help on a couple cars they took down there
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Post by nick18sf on Aug 28, 2019 19:06:31 GMT -5
I’ve noticed on my 03’s the front rails are narrowing up once the car has been ran. This is with a 74 impala bumper seam welded on there. Would it be better to spread the rails some then weld the bumper on opposed to doing the opposite?
Nick
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Post by olsen15 on Aug 29, 2019 10:09:01 GMT -5
Somehow just stumbled upon this thread now and want to say thanks about everyone who has contributed. Its gave me a lot more to think about when building my first full size this winter.
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Post by 383 Sonoma on Aug 29, 2019 18:37:19 GMT -5
I’ve noticed on my 03’s the front rails are narrowing up once the car has been ran. This is with a 74 impala bumper seam welded on there. Would it be better to spread the rails some then weld the bumper on opposed to doing the opposite? Nick No
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Post by DerbyKing88s on Aug 29, 2019 22:06:25 GMT -5
I’ve noticed on my 03’s the front rails are narrowing up once the car has been ran. This is with a 74 impala bumper seam welded on there. Would it be better to spread the rails some then weld the bumper on opposed to doing the opposite? Nick Are you sucking the rails in at all
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Post by owen11x on Aug 30, 2019 6:08:00 GMT -5
Id be careful how much you wanna pressure a stock cradle 03.. Seems like youd be walking a pretty fine line of doing more harm than good but again what do i know 🤷
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Post by smashford on Aug 30, 2019 14:10:27 GMT -5
There all johnson cradle 03s, bumpers are just welded on no pressure in or out
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Post by nick18sf on Aug 30, 2019 19:14:00 GMT -5
He is right. No pressure on them at all. And johnson bolt in cradles is what’s in them.
Nick
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Post by rennyx on Mar 11, 2022 15:26:47 GMT -5
I have been reading this with great interest. I can only use a DP or a trans brace. Not both. If using a DP it has to be 1" from firewall on fresh car. Box ford. Tilted at boxes, a arms welded down, hardnose any bumper, change body bolts, no kickers. Which would you use? DP or trans brace?
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Post by owen11x on Mar 11, 2022 19:21:18 GMT -5
I think your gonna get a strong mix of answers, but the main question is hiw built is the trans. Steel bell, full sid brace with steel tail? Because without one built to the fullest best front to back case i would not only kicker it with trans. I would ports power my firewall back as far as i can before it starts ripping, push dp into that as tight as i can while pre loading them rails and weld in dash bar 1 inch from that accordingly
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