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Post by DemolitionMissions on Mar 20, 2014 12:33:07 GMT -5
After wasting way too many hours on youtube watching terrible demo derby videos, I figured it would be very helpful if we made a section teaching other people exactly How to film a derby. You may stop right now and say "oh, but it's simple. Just aim the camera and follow the cars". But unfortunately there is much more than that. So here is a general Do and DO NOT list for filming derbies.
Follow all of these rules and you will have great quality and enjoyable demo derby videos for the world to see.
1. DO NOT film a 30 second clip of a derby and upload it online. This is pointless, what am I watching? Who wins? I saw maybe 2 hits. Stop wasting everyone's time.
2. If you are going to film a derby, film the ENTIRE heat. Do NOT shut the camera off when it's down to the final 3 cars, etc. We were kind enough to watch all of your video, now please be kind and give us the ending.
3. This is the year 2014. Video cameras and HD was invented LONG ago and is easy to buy. If your camcorder shows blurry balls as cars. Then THROW. IT. AWAY. Again see number 1. What am I watching and who wins?
4. If you are NOT standing at the front of the derby, in the BRIGHT daylight, and your phone was built in 2012 or older. Then DO NOT film a derby with a cell phone... It may seem cool and a good idea at the moment, but when the time comes to watch your crappy cell phone video. It will be nothing but bad focus, shaky movement, occasional sideways views, fading noises and low light visibility.
5. If you are holding a video camera filming a specific person in the derby. Do NOT scream at the driver. Derby Drivers CAN NOT hear you. People watching the video CAN. We like our speakers to remain working, so keep the shouting at a minimum. If you can not contain yourself from screaming, then please allow somebody else to record the video.
6. If it is midnight and the derby arena has zero lights. DO NOT attempt to film the derby. If we wanted to see blackness we would go to sleep instead of watching your video. Remember human eyes see better in the dark than a camera.
Feel free to add suggestions to grow this list. I would love to see this get stickied at the top of the video section
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Post by demokid22 on Mar 20, 2014 14:20:48 GMT -5
lol love it, a lot of the points you make are extremely true, #5 is extremely difficult to do when taping derbies or even in my case i can't yell at/boo people who are sandbagging. #'s 1&2 are really good too.
here's a few you could add to the list 7. If you haven't taped the entire heat and it's down to the last three cars who are all sputtering, don't tape the end it's just not worth it. 8. If you see that someone is taping the entire derby do not stand up directly in the middle of the derby to tape your friends POS bone stock caprice wagon and tell the other person who you are rudely blocking to F*** off.
definitely not a fan of driving 4 hours one way to tape a show so that you can stand up in front of my camera which hasn't been blocked all day just so that you can sit and swear and take a POS cell phone vid for your friend... oh ya especially when there are plenty of seats behind or off to my sides next to me.
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Post by demokid22 on Mar 20, 2014 14:23:35 GMT -5
oh here's one more 9. TAPE THE DERBY!!! if you are taping the derby tape the derby, don't pan off and show us your kid who wants nothing to do with being on your video. Hey guess what bud nobody else wants to watch your kid watching the derby either. Your kid doesn't want it and we the fans don't want it.
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Post by 513monster on Mar 20, 2014 17:29:05 GMT -5
here are a few:
Don't focus on one car, missing big shots while you're panned in on mr sandbagger sucks. Don't pan out of the arena(specifically point the damn camera at your feet)...see above. Get your settings right and go with it..don't play with them throughout the action
oh...and
DO NOT ZOOM IN AND OUT DO NOT ZOOM IN AND OUT DO NOT ZOOM IN AND OUT DO NOT ZOOM IN AND OUT
Sure, zoom in to see the damage after a big hit or something..but if you are zooming in and out throughout the whole damn thing...whats the point?
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Post by fallinskiestwice on Mar 20, 2014 17:53:35 GMT -5
here are a few: oh...and DO NOT ZOOM IN AND OUT DO NOT ZOOM IN AND OUT DO NOT ZOOM IN AND OUT DO NOT ZOOM IN AND OUT Sure, zoom in to see the damage after a big hit or something..but if you are zooming in and out throughout the whole damn thing...whats the point? apparently try and disorient anyone watching it....
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Post by bilt on Mar 20, 2014 19:05:03 GMT -5
If using a cell phone....turn the damn thing sideways so it's filmed in wide screen! Barclay Wilt
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Post by team2 on Mar 20, 2014 19:28:03 GMT -5
don't chat to the person that is filming the derby!
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Post by Ed Becker on Mar 20, 2014 19:33:57 GMT -5
Here's one that a particular Youtuber has brought to the forefront for me lately: As much as I love seeing older videos, please hold off posting stuff online until you figure out a way to hook up the VHS machine to the computer or to a DVD-R.
FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT YOU HOLD SACRED QUIT RECORDING THE %$#&ING TV!
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Post by jackedup on Mar 20, 2014 20:04:04 GMT -5
Im going to throw a few in here. Regardless of what your filming with (cell phone, digital camera, or an actual camcorder) Use a F-ing stand of some sort. I'm sick and tired of watching videos that look like they were filmed by Michael J. Fox. If your in the stands and don't have the foot print for a Tri-pod like you should use from the pits, buy a mono-pod. Its a collapsable stick you can use either sitting or standing with a rubber pad on the bottom and a mount on the top. It doesn't completely eliminate the shake but atleast if someone has to cross infront of you in the stands I don't have to check their pores for blackheads while I wait for it to focus back on the derby. You can just raise the camera over them and continue filming. Since I took the time out of my day to drive to the derby and paid good money to watch this derby #2 on my list: Do not stand up in the middle of the grand stands to film the derby (I will push you down the stairs), and sure as hell don't stand up front between the fence and the stands (I will throw a beer at you). Be respectful of the people behind you cuz they sure as heck cant see through you. Rant over keep up the good tips guys. I hope everyone reads these.
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Post by shake on Mar 20, 2014 20:06:19 GMT -5
Here's one that a particular Youtuber has brought to the forefront for me lately: As much as I love seeing older videos, please hold off posting stuff online until you figure out a way to hook up the VHS machine to the computer or to a DVD-R. FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT YOU HOLD SACRED QUIT RECORDING THE %$#&ING TV! I can help the guy I know what works
Don't zoooooom in on a car when it is hitting or being hit. I wanna see the smoking hard hit you did not spot
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Post by Engineerguy on Mar 20, 2014 21:29:51 GMT -5
After wasting way too many hours on youtube watching terrible demo derby videos, I figured it would be very helpful if we made a section teaching other people exactly How to film a derby. You may stop right now and say "oh, but it's simple. Just aim the camera and follow the cars". But unfortunately there is much more than that. So here is a general Do and DO NOT list for filming derbies. You nailed it Mitch!! I know I'm guilty of not always having the best footage of the events I'm running in or the alike, but our channel always strives to do our best. I get tired of watching bad videos,getting a terrible headache in the process. But I guess not everyone is in it like we are. Post good videos, and we will come....I mean watch. Wish more people put that attention into it.
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Post by stingya on Mar 20, 2014 21:34:07 GMT -5
Don't film for like 5-10 mins before the cars even start rolling into the derby area. I've ran into about 7 different videos of people doing that.
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Post by DemolitionMissions on Mar 20, 2014 21:38:13 GMT -5
Don't film for like 5-10 mins before the cars even start rolling into the derby area. I've ran into about 7 different videos of people doing that. I've seen that, yeah eats up a lot of blank time. On the other side of things, I've had issues in the past where I film a derby and start with the cars driving into the arena, but then the announcer proceeds to talk for 3 minutes while the cars sit and overheat. I'm always afraid to stop recording because you have no clue when the derby will actually start lol.
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Post by stingya on Mar 20, 2014 21:58:06 GMT -5
Don't film for like 5-10 mins before the cars even start rolling into the derby area. I've ran into about 7 different videos of people doing that. I've seen that, yeah eats up a lot of blank time. On the other side of things, I've had issues in the past where I film a derby and start with the cars driving into the arena, but then the announcer proceeds to talk for 3 minutes while the cars sit and overheat. I'm always afraid to stop recording because you have no clue when the derby will actually start lol. Well thats different but ive seen videos of people just hearing someone say that its gonna start soon so they start recording 5 mins later the cars start to roll in and they dont even have the decency to edit that 5 mins of time out.
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Post by ukbangerdan on Apr 1, 2014 13:27:03 GMT -5
I always find it interesting to see shots of cars when they're fresh & then wrecked: walk round the pits & get some shots of any cars that catch the eye, whether its the way they look/sound etc. & then afterwards when they're junk, inside & outside the car is always cool
Don't be afraid to leave the camera rolling before & after the heat, sometimes you can catch the little cool stuff that happens most people will miss.
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