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Post by klicky96 on Jan 21, 2014 14:40:03 GMT -5
Okay, so I've been building derby vehicles with my dad, family friend, and brothers since I was like 7. Now that I'm 17, I'm into my second season driving. Now, there's many things they have always told me. 'If you want to win, drive smart. If you want to be cheered on, drive hard!' or 'Hit em hard! If you don't think you hit hard enough, back up, try again!' But here's the issue. I've always listened to what they say, and I've got a bunch of knowledge from them. But they always told me not to run front brakes. But on here, I see people run front brakes all the time. I've always been told to run rears because the fronts can lock up easily.
So to be clear, I want to hear your guys' take on running front brakes. What are the pros/cons? And what does it take to keep them from locking up? Just to let you know, I will be running a 1984 Grand Marquis. Also, I've read through the tips, and if anyone else has any other tips, PM me. I'd like to do as best as I can.
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Post by Comet Cyclone on Jan 21, 2014 15:08:50 GMT -5
I personally always 4 wheel brakes...I don't like to get pushed somewhere I don't want to go or get DQ for a drivers door hit... Cons... I hear a bent rim will lock it up the wheels.Never had a front wheel bend that bad though.. perhaps a wheel spacer would help this issue as well.
on a Marquis make sure u got good calipers because they can stick or get very tight.Along with good hoses.New calipers are not all that expensive.
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Post by jackedup on Jan 21, 2014 15:10:18 GMT -5
No Front brakes on a rwd, no rear brakes on a front wheel drive. It just isn't worth the risk or time. All you need to do is stop your drive wheels and your good. Pros and cons? Pro would be the ability to stop faster con would be the inability to stop stopping.
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Post by ron17t on Jan 21, 2014 19:00:27 GMT -5
I usually run rears and left front.I run left front because it's just easier to run one line than two from the master. Never bent a wheel bad enough to lock up a caliper.
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Post by klicky96 on Jan 21, 2014 20:41:32 GMT -5
I usually run rears and left front.I run left front because it's just easier to run one line than two from the master. Never bent a wheel bad enough to lock up a caliper. I think I'll borrow this idea from you. If it does happen to lock up, it's only one tire, and I can learn from it. If it doesn't, well more stopping power.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2014 21:16:44 GMT -5
I like to run rear brakes. I dont want to be stuck in the middle of the arena doing doughnuts with a wheel hung up in the caliper.
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Post by Punisher 66J on Jan 21, 2014 21:57:20 GMT -5
If you can run drums in front then you don't have to worry about it.
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Post by redneckracing12 on Jan 21, 2014 22:58:52 GMT -5
no front brakes for me ever on a rwd car. One of the first things off the car when its getting stripped.
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Post by DemolitionMissions on Jan 22, 2014 10:06:16 GMT -5
I only run rear brakes, just one less thing to take me out.
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Post by STROMI 121 on Jan 22, 2014 10:11:43 GMT -5
Ive ran front and rear brakes for 15 years and never had an issue until last year when I broke a rotor in half...
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Post by ron17t on Jan 22, 2014 12:29:35 GMT -5
I don't like getting pushed into stuff.Think about it, the rear brakes on any vehicle only provide about 30 percent of your total stopping power.
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Post by Comet Cyclone on Jan 22, 2014 12:50:35 GMT -5
I don't like getting pushed into stuff.Think about it, the rear brakes on any vehicle only provide about 30 percent of your total stopping power. 30% lurching forward at high rate of speeds yes... going 15-30mph on a derby track it's more like 45%50% or 50/50.
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Post by m16 on Jan 22, 2014 15:15:04 GMT -5
Brakes just slow you down
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Post by ron17t on Jan 22, 2014 15:58:09 GMT -5
I don't like getting pushed into stuff.Think about it, the rear brakes on any vehicle only provide about 30 percent of your total stopping power. 30% lurching forward at high rate of speeds yes... going 15-30mph on a derby track it's more like 45%50% or 50/50. Agreed that they are 50 percent on the derby track assuming they are locked up.The other benefit of having front brakes is when they are locked the tire is sliding, if you only have rear brakes the back tires will be locked but the front are rolling free.It's harder to push-a vehicle with 4 locked wheels instead of just 2. I can see how a wheelcould hit the caliper, just never had it happen to me, but like I said I usually only run a left front brake and remove the rf caliper.
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Post by Comet Cyclone on Jan 22, 2014 17:15:54 GMT -5
I dunno about you but If I'm sliding on the ice I don't lock up my wheels...pump em and let em roll to regain traction.Don't take much and you'll be suprised how much more control you gain by doing this method.
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