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Post by redneckracing12 on Nov 6, 2013 19:17:43 GMT -5
When welding spider gears and using brake cleaner to clean the gear oil off the carrier be sure to rid all the fumes created by the brake cleaner before welding!!!!!!
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Post by STROMI 121 on Nov 6, 2013 23:01:24 GMT -5
When welding spider gears and using brake cleaner to clean the gear oil off the carrier be sure to rid all the fumes created by the brake cleaner before welding!!!!!! That stuff is major toxic. I generally clean them out and wait until the next day to weld them. You dont ever want to breathe that stuff.
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Post by STROMI 121 on Nov 6, 2013 23:12:54 GMT -5
Stromi 121 I like this thread. It nice to see experience drivers actually trying to help out new drivers for a change. On this board it seems like we get beat up but a certain few so we just stop asking questions until we stray away from this sport because of the bullies on this site and in the pits. It's nice to see people actually trying to help out and get younger drivers into this sport by helping them out and not belittling them. Thanks for helping this sport to grow in a positive way! Barclay Wilt Actually most people on here are more than willing to share information and knowledge if the questions are asked in the approiate thread and typed in English. when a nubee tipes in random babble in ebonis with noe puncutation or ane attempt to use anie grammer at all and then demands that everyone on here to give them all the answers on how to build a car without even taking the time to read the approiate thread and then gets mad when the vetrins bust there chops with sarcastic answers well what do you expect u get what you give if you ask a legitimate question in the proper thread written in some type of english i promise you wil always get an accurate answer but if you type a stupit quesation in the wrong place in text lingo or ebonix then you can expect stupid answers you get what yop give and this is a fact ands not just my opinion\
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Post by STROMI 121 on Nov 6, 2013 23:17:49 GMT -5
This site is for sharing tips, ideas, and opinions on how to build and run a demolition derby car. Newbees/rookies questions are always welcome and will always get answered if they take the time/effort to use the thread locators and make some attempt to use the English language.
The bottom line is that most of us don't know each other and likely never will. The only representation we have of each other is what we take the time to type.
Someone once said...Theres no stupid questions, just stupid people.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2013 1:35:37 GMT -5
I know Stromi, Joker, Jugulator, dm440c, Myself and A lot of others I'm not remembering names of... Give advice when asked as Stromi says in a legitimate way you will get all the help you need... Some of us maybe blunt and to the point and hurt some feelings but that is how we are wired...
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Post by dm440c on Nov 7, 2013 13:07:54 GMT -5
I'm a little long in the tooth and I started doing this before the internet. It really wasn't much different at that time as far as what kind of help you could get... a lot of the guys didn't want to help me all that much because I was the competition, some were actually mean about it, but many of them would help me in the pits or even in the weeks before the derby even though they knew I represented the competition. I think a part of it was that they could see I was sincere but starting from point zero (for the young guys who have been in this game 15 years or less- try to imagine no internet, when you literally had no written information available anywhere and had to figure it all out completely on your own). On derby day they would tear me up on the track and then help me get the car ready for the feature just to tear me up again. I found that kind of spirit to be infectious and that is what I have tried to emulate.
Those were the days when car counts were in the 100's and when limited car entries meant guys standing in line on a Saturday morning to try and get an entry before it filled up. Today the sport/hobby/whatever is experiencing a period of significant contraction and anyone who is sincere about being able to keep enjoying it really has an obligation to encourage further participation any way that they can. Even once I hang up the helmet I still want to be able to sit in the stands and watch; the only way that will happen is if young guys continue to get in while old guys are getting out. As stated above, guys who are sincere about the learning process and who make an effort to help themselves first should be rewarded with some help from others when it is warranted. Most of the answers are already here in black and white, don't be lazy about doing your homework. Act like a dumbass and you should not be surprised to receive less helpful responses. Bring a sense of entitlement by demanding the derby equivalent of food stamps and you should not be surprised when you catch an attitude in return.
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Post by NoDakSmack on Nov 9, 2013 23:01:44 GMT -5
Any more driving tips?
I've been told if you're going to circle the track, go counter-clockwise so that your driver door is facing everyone else. Less likely to be hit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2013 0:06:32 GMT -5
Lol I'm the type of person who tries not to hit DD's but jackoffs like that, if I'm going for an axle shot or wheelshot and your door gets in the way to bad so no its absolutely ignorant to "setup",the DD... Cause you will get blasted!!!
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Post by bilt on Nov 10, 2013 1:19:54 GMT -5
Always hit solid to get the car to bend straight. Don't go nose to nose or tail to tail as you'll junk your car faster (unless you're in a hard hard car) Don't waste your time hitting in the doors as your wasting your car. Always aim for the corners and tires. Push in the clutch during hits if your running a standard. Let off the gas after the hits. Try to take hits square in the doors. Always be looking around. Don't take a hit personal, it's a demo derby, we are suppose to hit.
Barclay Wilt.
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Post by joker14 on Nov 10, 2013 9:43:23 GMT -5
Always hit solid to get the car to bend straight. Don't go nose to nose or tail to tail as you'll junk your car faster (unless you're in a hard hard car) Don't waste your time hitting in the doors as your wasting your car. Always aim for the corners and tires. Push in the clutch during hits if your running a standard. Let off the gas after the hits. Try to take hits square in the doors. Always be looking around. Don't take a hit personal, it's a demo derby, we are suppose to hit. Barclay Wilt. I don't follow a single one of these rules! Sent from my SPH-L720 using proboards
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Post by bilt on Nov 10, 2013 10:03:45 GMT -5
That's funny Joker. I can't say I follow many of them either but those were written down for me before I got into my first car. I kept the note which was given to me. Ironically I didn't follow them in that derby either as I killed my car hitting a caddy in the back bumper. The hit put us both out of the derby. While trying to get my car started I had my head down and hand on the steering wheel when I took a shot in the front passenger's tire. My hand and wrist went one way and my body went the other. Three days in the hospital, a four hour surgery, and a huge medical bill later I learned not to keep my hand in the steering wheel as a double compound fracture to the radial bone will help you to remember to "not get your hand caught in the steering wheel". Cast comes off in January! Barclay Wilt
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Post by dm440c on Nov 11, 2013 11:59:36 GMT -5
use a seat with a high back or at least the kind with the adjustable head support and make sure it is all the way up. A moment before a trunk hit when you are positive you have it lined up and it is about to happen, press your head into the support and let the seat absorb most of the impact so that your neck doesn't have to. If your car is built without any steel bars that are pressed up against the back of your seat, use a ratchet strap or old seat belts to support the seat. Run the strap from the inside of the driver door, around the back of the seat, and over to somewhere near the passenger A pillar with a little tension on it. This will help prevent the seat back from breaking which, trust me, you do not want. An added bonus is this gives you something firm to hang on other than the steering wheel while getting knocked around. If you see a front wheel hit coming, let go of the d@mn steering wheel. If you see a back wheel hit coming, get off the d@mn gas. A wiring tip- I know it is real popular to just have the two bare wires that you touch together to run the starter but personally I only have this setup as a backup. Too many times I got knocked into next week while concentrating on touching the wires together that I now run a starter button so that I can press it but keep my head looking around to see what is coming. Because I do not have ultimate faith in buttons, I also have a redundant two-wire backup deal just in case the button fails. oh yeah, and I've never seen joker14 take whatever happened on the track personally which is definitely a good rule to follow. He's probably right about the rest of that list though I know I have some pictures of my cars with the passenger doors pounded to oblivion which he can take credit for
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Post by joker14 on Nov 11, 2013 13:32:39 GMT -5
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Post by 3G on Nov 11, 2013 19:11:18 GMT -5
Take a lot of friends. Friends are becoming very important nowadays. lol
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Post by pasterofmuppets on Nov 12, 2013 17:57:35 GMT -5
Walk around the pits and introduce yourself. It helps to get to know people. I've been at this a long time and I respect the rookies who come over to chat about my car, wish me luck and just bs. Especially when they aren't digging for info. At a recent show I put a new distributor (my spare one) in a guys car who'spoints dist was bad, loaned spare tires, and welded up a driveshaft to some rookies after the heat just to help them out and get em back out for the consi, despite needing to work on mine for the feature. Simply because those guys came over beforehand to chat and then when they needed help swallowed their pride and asked for it. I love derbying, but the time in the pits with those guys is what makes it worth doing.
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