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Post by farmboy012 on Nov 7, 2012 0:49:31 GMT -5
Like they said if its stock engine it will run it's best on 89 or 93 octane fuel the 110 racing fuel is for higher compression engines and will only cost you more and burn hotter We run a dragster on pure alky and it is very temperament ale and uses a gallon in 1/8 mile pass and you have a lot more steps to a warm up and have certain amount of heat in engine or it's not doing any good.
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Post by residentcheater on Nov 7, 2012 0:51:51 GMT -5
Plus race fuels burn hotter than pump gas does hince higher octane!!! Gas, regardless of octane burns at the same temperature. Higher octane is used with higher compression to prevent pre-detination. High octane will ignite after lower octane, once ignition occurs they burn at the same speed.
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Post by pasterofmuppets on Nov 7, 2012 5:18:03 GMT -5
Plus race fuels burn hotter than pump gas does hince higher octane!!! Gas, regardless of octane burns at the same temperature. Higher octane is used with higher compression to prevent pre-detination. High octane will ignite after lower octane, once ignition occurs they burn at the same speed. Was quite literally about to say this exact same thing after reading the entire thread, but you beat me to it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2012 6:16:17 GMT -5
Dude, really get serious here... you're running a stock 318 nothing special nothing high compression nothing cam'd nothing special... run a typical pump gas premium whatever is the highest at your closes gas station to curb pre detonation in a motor that may have some carbon build up and hot cylinder temps... alky will burn close to double, trust me I've done lab tests on it through college and look at people that run E85 in their flex fuel vehicles, worse mileage, more fuel consumption... get it?? it burns more to do the same... E85, Alky, same principals... Alky is going to be far more temperamental.... there is actually some promoters that have banned it due safety reasons, that whole hard to see it burn thing, and gas fires DO HAPPEN!! If the motor is not "built" for it, why add more complication into things... but hey if you want to waste "gas money" go right ahead, it's not going to make you last any longer far better area's to stick your "gas money" I see what you're saying. The motor was rebuilt before we got it. I'm probably going to just stick with pump gas.
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Post by decker on Nov 7, 2012 8:03:40 GMT -5
good idea!!!
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Post by undertaker11 on Nov 7, 2012 8:20:54 GMT -5
I run 89 non-ethanol with octane booster in my motor. been thinking about trying 110 airplane fuel to see if it makes a difference.
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Post by pasterofmuppets on Nov 7, 2012 8:23:43 GMT -5
If your compression ratio isn't about 9.5/1 why would you want to run anything higher octane than pump gas? Just asking...
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Post by bluecrew72 on Nov 7, 2012 8:44:13 GMT -5
Well don't you know race gas smells good and alky is "cool"
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Post by decker on Nov 7, 2012 9:04:15 GMT -5
YEARS ago like late early 2000s... wanted to be cool.... run straight race fuel in my stock 318 w a stock 2 bbl on it...
BIG MISTAKE!!! as soon as i started it on the trailer the veterans were laughing at us saying that wont run worth a Shoot...WELL THEY WERE RIGHT... ran HORRIBLE... It stalled in the heat and we couldnt get it to refire...
swapped tanks in it when i got it home to pump gas... RAN GREAT then.... just my experience...
But sometimes more isnt better ;D for regulator id say go as simple as possible for a few YEARS.... after you get confident in your drivetrain... then start upgrading...JMO ;D
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Post by icrashfords on Nov 7, 2012 9:08:38 GMT -5
i run on cheap beer and wild turkey.
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Post by swanny454 on Nov 7, 2012 9:09:47 GMT -5
I run 89 non-ethanol with octane booster in my motor. been thinking about trying 110 airplane fuel to see if it makes a difference. Airplane fuel is a "dry" fuel. You better run additives in it or you will have valve problems. As far as octane, ALL motors run BETTER on higher octane. Stock or built engines like octane. I ran 50/50 mix of 110 and 93, I also ran straight Turbo Blue. Engines start better, perform better, and yes it does smell cool. But, in the end one more start could gain you the win. I will spend the extra $25-$30 it takes to run the race fuel to better my odds. We already spend way to much on are cars anyway. BUT, if I was going to spend more money on anything it would be a GOOD ignition system. Second to performance heads that is the best bang for the buck.
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Post by Reed735 on Nov 7, 2012 9:40:25 GMT -5
I agree with about everyone its a stock motor run "stock" fuel or a littler mix if you want. But unless you are willing to spend the money to build a motor designed for alky I wouldn't do it. And E85 and Alky are close but not the same E85 is ethanol which is from corn or grains and alky is methanol which a wood based alcohol not that it matters. And the only reason it's E85 and not E100 is you'd have hillbillys filling up jugs and drinking it.
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Post by cheater111 on Nov 7, 2012 10:21:42 GMT -5
Just as easy to make as it is to go to the store amd buy it. nowhere around me has e85 in a pump yet but a guy that sells all kinds of fuels has pure ethanol so i just mix a little pump gas in it
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Post by rhull1977 on Nov 7, 2012 13:48:45 GMT -5
I agree with about everyone its a stock motor run "stock" fuel or a littler mix if you want. But unless you are willing to spend the money to build a motor designed for alky I wouldn't do it. And E85 and Alky are close but not the same E85 is ethanol which is from corn or grains and alky is methanol which a wood based alcohol not that it matters. And the only reason it's E85 and not E100 is you'd have hillbillys filling up jugs and drinking it. You are right but you can buy pure ethanol I get it I have run both ethanol and methanol methanol is cummalitive and can poison you You cant drink ethanol either its been denatured so it will make you sick. There is alot to learn before running any kind of fuel but work with what you know
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Post by joker14 on Nov 7, 2012 14:34:45 GMT -5
sorry, 93 octane Octane is not a want, its a need in engines and not just any engine needs it althought tone of guys run it believing its giving them something.
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