Post by doba22 on Dec 23rd, 2005, 7:53pm
dm440c, I had the same prob with a 78' 360/727 doba to a 76' 360/904 doba I just wiggled and wiggled until it fit then let a buddie go to town with a welder it worked out fine for me..... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by bj6993 on Dec 24th, 2005, 08:22am
doba22 we were talking about a small block into a big block car not that ez. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dm440c on Dec 24th, 2005, 10:59am
it's strange to me that they are different. I didn't expect that because I've swapped big and small block engines into the older previous generation B body cars before, such as when I put a 440 in my 69 Coronet that had originally been a 318. In that case, I used a 440/727 from a 73 Newport with the trans mount and motor mounts from the Newport and it was all a direct bolt-in. Everything lined up perfectly, I just had to shorten the driveshaft. I guess they did it differently when they updated the chassis to the spool type mounts, but I don't know why. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by original redneckM78 on Dec 26th, 2005, 9:46pm
dm440c- if I remember right cut the motor mounts off the k-frame bolt them to the motor. bolt up your trany. then weld motor mounts back on k-frame. thenyour driveshaft should fit. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dm440c on Dec 26th, 2005, 11:29pm
ok, so the two options are:
- drill new tranny mount holes, shorten driveshaft, clearance for distributor, get longer flex hoses for the radiator
or
- cut and weld motor mounts
the only benefit of the first choice is you gain a little clearance in the front. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by INSANEDOBA on Dec 30th, 2005, 11:35am
Nor am I here to start fights.
This is good information for people to read that do not have alot of experiance with swaping engines. I just pulled a 440/727 and dropped in a 360/727. Shortened the driveline and drilled new holes in the trans mount and cut out a big hole in the firewall. Works great. Doba22 had a different experiance his swap should have went smooth except their was a difference in his doba causing him to modify things a little to make the swap succesful. That may be helpful for other readers to know if that happens to them. Knowing that they will still be able to do the swap should this situation happen to them. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by bj6993 on Dec 30th, 2005, 5:08pm
I did my 78 doba pulled the big block out and dropped a 318 witha 904 from a 85 dippy all I did was beat the oil pan by the drain plug up about 1 inch (be careful the oil pickup tube is close by) sliced the crossmember holes oblong went to my driveshift pile got the right size one cut the hole for the firewall (been there done that ) destoryed two dist. before not paying attention, learded the hard way 55.00 apiece but that was on my 68 nyer. Job done Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by outrageous88 on Jan 1st, 2006, 11:58pm
With the cordoba's that come with a 727 if you want to use a 904 just find a fifth avenue or diplomat drive shaft and they will fit right in with no trouble at all Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Abernathy14 on Jan 8th, 2006, 12:38am
sup, i have a 78 doba and i dont like to run the stock front bumper, so i am thinking about putting a 75 or so impala front bumper on the front. will this bumper work all right.( i am not going to run the doba dumper at all so leaving it on is not an option) Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by lyk2crash00 on Jan 8th, 2006, 5:01pm
Picking up a 74 Coronet is this a pinch frame car what are the major things to do to it. Someone told me something about the sub frame body mounts what is that, Any help would be awsome... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by lyk2crash00 on Jan 10th, 2006, 5:16pm
Well i pick up a 75 coronet last night and shes pretty rust in the body but the frame looks good all the way around. How much is some rusty wheel wells going to efect the strenght of this car? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by demo17 on Jan 10th, 2006, 5:49pm
Not much as long as you can cut off the rust then weld the wheel well, or at least bolt them together. It will still be a good car. Girlfriend ran a fury with rusty wheel wells, and made it through 3 derbies. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dontletitbend on Jan 10th, 2006, 7:13pm
here are the pictures of his charger.
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Post by lyk2crash00 on Jan 11th, 2006, 01:06am
How do i get the front end to sit up higher on my 75 coronet looks like it sits too low Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dontletitbend on Jan 11th, 2006, 01:24am
torsion bars. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dontletitbend on Jan 11th, 2006, 01:42am
theres a bolt right in the center of the lower control arm at the end of the torsion bar...one on each side.. just run that bolt in. i dont take it in all the way, i normally leave about a 1/4-1/2" of threads . Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dontletitbend on Jan 11th, 2006, 01:45am
and also I welded the sway bar to the radius arm?? not sure what its called. but it almost touches the sway bar on both sides of the car. right in front of the tires. doesnt make it solid but stiffens it up really good. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by lyk2crash00 on Jan 13th, 2006, 9:42pm
Yah i know that but what do you need rims off of i think they are 5 lug 4 1/2 and i didnt see that car on the wheel list. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by tomot1999 on Jan 13th, 2006, 10:42pm
Any 5th ave with 15s should fit ford 15s should bolt on, also the furys and that style car I think are the same.
TOM Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by outrageous88 on Jan 13th, 2006, 10:51pm
Almost all mopar 74-85 with v-8s should work. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dm440c on Jan 14th, 2006, 12:05am
also C body cars 69 and newer Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by JordanBlanton on Jan 15th, 2006, 10:01am
What's the best way to straighten a pinch frame that's pushed to the side? My St. Regis ran like 30 seconds with a stock bumper, uncompressed shocks, and K-frame rubber mounts left in place, and the passenger rail is to the side. It now has no rubbers, compressed shocks, and an Aspen steel bumper (which will be welded on really good next year) and I can weld the seams from the A-arms forward, so I think if I can get it straightened out, I can keep it straightened. Do I need to heat the frame and beat it straight, or will that weaken it? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
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Post by dontletitbend on Jan 15th, 2006, 11:02am
where did the frame actually bend at? right in front of the A arm? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by JordanBlanton on Jan 15th, 2006, 11:10am
Yeah; it's pushed over pretty much right in front of the A-arm.
Sadly, a frame machine never even popped into my mind. My buddy's dad runs a body shop; I'll have to see if they have a frame machine and would be willing to straigten it for their name spray-bombed on the car. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by NEWPERIAL on Jan 15th, 2006, 9:06pm
WITHOUT GOING THROUGH 30 SOME PAGES IS THERE ANY PICS IN THERE ON PUTTING A CHEVY SMALLBLOCK IN A DOBA? LIKE ABOUT WHERE IT SITS AND STUFF ENGINE WILL HAVE A DIST. GUARD SO NO FIREWALL WILL BE CUT. IF ANYONE HAS ANY CAN THEY REPOST OR IM ME THEM, THANKS. Re: THREAD SIMPLY FOR DOBA'S
Post by moparkid17 on Jan 17th, 2006, 11:24am
on Jul 1st, 2005, 11:39pm, dontletitbend wrote:
after 9 hrs of stripping.. and about 15 hours of building..
Here's an SBC in a Doba'......Dontletitbends' car.... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by lyk2crash00 on Jan 23rd, 2006, 11:03pm
i was taking the bolts out of my k-frame and i think one of them spun inside the frame what can i do to get it out Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dontletitbend on Jan 24th, 2006, 01:40am
i would probably cut a small hole in the side of the frame and weld the nut to keep it from turning.. but if it looks too rusty just cut it out and weld a new nut in there. then just patch the hole back up. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by lyk2crash00 on Jan 24th, 2006, 02:23am
yah the front of the k-frame came apart real easy but the back is a little rustier kinda sucks but ill get it Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by davidwalker on Jan 25th, 2006, 10:09am
had the same prob last year with the back bolts. i just torched the bolt and used a punch to knock the nut out of the way. then i got some long bolts and drilled a hole on top of the frame and brought the bolt all the way through the frame. used a small plate that fit in the top of the frame as a washer. worked good. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by 2timeloser on Jan 25th, 2006, 12:49pm
which would make it stronger if you went through the floor boards. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by AVERY24 on Jan 25th, 2006, 8:24pm
DOES ANYBODY HERE USE A 9 INCH FORD ,IF SO WHAT DID IT COME OUT OF Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by original redneckM78 on Jan 26th, 2006, 10:27pm
a mid 80's fullsize bronco. moved perch mounts. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by rush49 on Jan 31st, 2006, 4:08pm
I was wondering. take the 4 bolts out of the k frame and run a piece of allthread through the k frame and the frame bolt it solid. run the rest of the allthread through the hood of the car and bolt your hood down there. would this help keep the car from snooting up? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by stephan07 on Jan 31st, 2006, 6:14pm
a c body 8 3/4 will fit under my 77 doba right? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by original redneckM78 on Jan 31st, 2006, 9:30pm
i think the perch mounts are closer togethr. move them in and good to go Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dm440c on Feb 1st, 2006, 7:05pm
if you're lazy like me, you can just leave the spring perches where they are. It is a pretty close fit, you should be able to line them up the way they are Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by lyk2crash00 on Feb 2nd, 2006, 9:22pm
What do you do when one of the bumper shocks springs out when you try to hit it in never had one do this to me before Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Feb 2nd, 2006, 9:26pm
on Feb 2nd, 2006, 9:22pm, lyk2crash00 wrote:
What do you do when one of the bumper shocks springs out when you try to hit it in never had one do this to me before
You can take the shock apart and take the spring out or you can push your car up against a tree or other solid object and compress it that way......... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by demo17 on Feb 3rd, 2006, 08:55am
As long as the oil is drained take the torch and slice the inner tube enough to cause some slag build up. Now beat it in, the slag will cause resistance so you can beat the shock in and it won't pop out. It seems like I have to do this to all of mine. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by x909x on Feb 3rd, 2006, 09:26am
I just learned a couple weeks ago that the shocks come apart. It's so much easier taking them apart and cutting the rod off inside the shock and putting them back together. I used to use a come along hooked to the sway bar and that didn't always work. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by NEWPERIAL on Feb 3rd, 2006, 09:59am
i dont like cutting the rod off inside but thats just me ,only thing holding the bumper from getting snagged and tore out is now gone and relying on weld. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by demoderby78 on Feb 4th, 2006, 4:31pm
I have never compressed the shocks on a Chrysler and that has seemed to work better for me. I had a problem with frames buckling right behind the shock towers when I did collapse them. Anyone else had this happen? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by JordanBlanton on Feb 4th, 2006, 5:25pm
Are you talking about on pinch framers? I wouldn't leave 'em out on a pinch framer. It gives more leverage to pull the rails to the side, which it will do...I have a picture of mine, but it's too dark; I'll have to take another one with some good lighting. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dontletitbend on Feb 13th, 2006, 5:23pm
cut the square flange off the shock where it used to bolt on, so you just have the naked shock...
weld bumper to frame...
weld shocks to bumper and frame...
doesnt matter if their compressed or not. just cut a hole in it to relive the pressure before you start welding. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by doba22 on Feb 26th, 2006, 6:03pm
Here is a pic of my 76 doba after 2 derbys. 1st one I went head to head with a 77 nyer and bent the Yorker. 2nd one I lost the trans. Still has some left in it.. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Abernathy14 on Feb 28th, 2006, 4:49pm
sup, do you guys weld the front bumper right to the end of the frame or do you use the shock tubes. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Mar 1st, 2006, 07:53am
on Feb 28th, 2006, 4:49pm, derby14 wrote:
sup, do you guys weld the front bumper right to the end of the frame or do you use the shock tubes.
Both.......... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Abernathy14 on Mar 1st, 2006, 5:27pm
Both............
what , and how do you do this?
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Post by original redneckM78 on Mar 1st, 2006, 7:17pm
weld bumper to frame weld shock to bumper and frame Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by JIMBOJONES on Mar 3rd, 2006, 08:25am
Yes! I finally own a B-body.
I ran one in my first derby, but it was my brother in laws.
I have a question about the fronts.
The drivers side frame rail on mine is bent and has a slight crease in it, as seen from the photo. If I heat it and yank it back straight remove the pucks and bolt it tight would it cause me any future greif?
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Post by demo17 on Mar 3rd, 2006, 08:37am
If you can get it bent back straight without heat I would do that, but do it how ever you can. How far back from the front is the bend? In this situation I would weld the bumper straight to the end of the frame. Then weld on the bumper shocks along side of the frame. If you leave them extended they should reach back to where the k-member bolts up. You should be alright, you just have to remember to hit square and try not to let anybody hit the left front corner to push it back over. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by JIMBOJONES on Mar 5th, 2006, 4:20pm
Its bent a little, but I plan to bring the crease back out with port-a-power and a couple tricks. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by NEWPERIAL on Mar 10th, 2006, 9:55pm
WORKING ON A 80 NEWORT . ANYHOW THE FRONTEND IS DONE I FINISHED THAT TONIGHT BUT NOW ONTO THE REAR IF THE CAR ,NOT SURE WHAT TO DO FOR SPRINGS?
SHOULD I BUILD A MILD STRAIGHT STACK 5-6 LEAFS OR BUILD A HARD PACK? I CAN NOT CHAIN THE HUMPS THIS IS WY I AM WONDERING ,SEE ALOT OF THESE RIP AWAY IN THE BACK AND I DONT WANT THAT . OR LEAVE IT STOCK AND DONT BACK IT UP . TRUNK WILL BE WEDGED.
HAVENT RAN ONE OF THESE ON MY OWN AND USED TO SHOCKERS,THIS WILL BE MY FIRST 80'S SHOW Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by hitmhard12 on Mar 10th, 2006, 10:49pm
Go mild, they're tough, but they're no shocker. But use that rear when you need and don't be afraid to. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Chad #438- RETIRED!!! on Mar 25th, 2006, 12:31pm
I've got a 2dr 76 fury that looks like a twin to this car, would it be good for a chain derby? Has a small hole rusted in passenger front floor but no rust any where else. Can weld bumpers on and that is all for welding, or would this car be better for a weld show?
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Post by moparkid17 on Mar 31st, 2006, 10:50am
Chad.......I would run that car in a weld show. I will hobo a big body shocker before I waste another small body. The bad part about them is that the frame rails when they're not welded sway to one side or the other really bad. If you're allowed to weld the k-member you can almost stop this from happening..... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Chad #438- RETIRED!!! on Mar 31st, 2006, 12:17pm
Thank you, I was thinking the way this car looks underneath it would be better for a weld show. This is my first mopar and if I like it I can get alot of these around here cheap.
How hard would it be to put a BBC in place of this 318? Has anyone ever done this?
Chad Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Chad #438- RETIRED!!! on Mar 31st, 2006, 5:12pm
I can't get this 318 to run right. new plugs, wires, cap, points, and rotor. Still runs like crap. missing on 2 cylinders, and I have work on GM all my life. (tech at dealer for 10 yrs) I know my BBC will run right. Just have never tried to put one in a mopar. Dropping it in a ford is fairly easy, but It doesn't like it will be easy to drop-in this Fury.
Chad Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dontletitbend on Mar 31st, 2006, 5:18pm
on Mar 31st, 2006, 1:02pm, moparkid17 wrote:
dontletitbend has done it...........I personally wouldn't ruin a good car with a junk motor....
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I put SBC in mine not BBC... i personally dont think it would fit very good and the torsion bars wouldnt support it. when you take the rubber mounts from the K-frame it drops the front end about 2" .. the torsion bars do good to hold up a Small block i'd hate to see how low it would sit with a big block chevy. and even if you made the front suspension solid..then you have to worry about breaking the little ball joints. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Mar 31st, 2006, 5:18pm
on Mar 31st, 2006, 5:12pm, Chad #438 wrote:
I can't get this 318 to run right. new plugs, wires, cap, points, and rotor. Still runs like crap. missing on 2 cylinders, and I have work on GM all my life. (tech at dealer for 10 yrs) I know my BBC will run right. Just have never tried to put one in a mopar. Dropping it in a ford is fairly easy, but It doesn't like it will be easy to drop-in this Fury.
Chad
Have you checked compression on the two cylinders that aren't firing? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Chad #438- RETIRED!!! on Mar 31st, 2006, 10:45pm
Yes, the two cylinders that are missing have compression. I had a friend that is a mopar guy come over and look at it and he fixed it in about 5 minutes. he still will not tell me what he did to fix it, He also fixed the tranny that was slipping. Adjusted the bands I think he said. He also told me not to put my BBC in this car and if I didn't want to run the 318 to put his 440 in it, but a big block is a big block in my opinion. What do you think? run the 318 or run his 440?
on Mar 31st, 2006, 5:18pm, moparkid17 wrote:
Have you checked compression on the two cylinders that aren't firing?
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Post by moparkid17 on Apr 1st, 2006, 09:19am
Run the 318..........It will give you a little more room in the engine compartment and I also feel is a better engine....... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Chad #438- RETIRED!!! on Apr 1st, 2006, 09:58am
Is the stock rearend in these cars any good? Or should I put one of my gm BIA rear ends under it?
Also would the stock bumper be ok or should I put a 74 gm bumper on it?
Chad Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Apr 1st, 2006, 6:41pm
on Apr 1st, 2006, 09:58am, Chad #438 wrote:
Is the stock rearend in these cars any good? Or should I put one of my gm BIA rear ends under it?
Also would the stock bumper be ok or should I put a 74 gm bumper on it?
Chad
Stock rears are C-clip, definitely swap it if you have the ability........I'd swap the bumper out for a pointy newyorker..... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dm440c on Apr 1st, 2006, 7:13pm
Chad, run the 318, you won't be sorry. Remember that these are different from chevy stuff and it will do better for you if you acknowledge that right from the start. You will have to set it up differently and drive it differently than a chevy. The trick to getting the tranny to live is tighten the bands (already done), wire the kickdown back, and be nice to it when you drive it. Abuse the 318 all you want, but run rear brakes and stop the wheels before every shift. Be calm- let off the gas, jam on the brakes to stop the wheels, and THEN shift. If you do that, you won't be another of the nameless rabble of chevy guys whining about how you can't get Mopar trannies to live.
Check out the engines thread for more tips.
if your chevy BIA is set up for leaf springs, run it.
Look carefully at the back of the front bumper. If it has a full box section, I'd say leave it on. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Chad #438- RETIRED!!! on Apr 3rd, 2006, 11:59am
Thanks for the advice guys. One of my BIA is set up for leafs so it shouldn't be too bad to install. The show I want to run this car at has not send out rules for it yet, not even sure if he is getting to put it on this year. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by JIMBOJONES on Apr 4th, 2006, 08:23am
I adjusted the A-arms out last night and am ready to crank on the torsion bars.
I was told that you could re-index them making them sit higher.
Is it true? If so, how do you do it?
This is my first B body and I am not used to the torsion bars running parallel with the rocker panels.
All the 80's F,J,M bodies run parallel with the bumper. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by demo17 on Apr 4th, 2006, 08:45am
Jimbo, I wouldn't worry about re-indexing the torsion bars, just crank them up, you will be high enough. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dontletitbend on Apr 4th, 2006, 6:51pm
you can only go so high anyway.. taking the rubber stop off the inside of the upper A-arm will give you just a little extra not much though. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by doba22 on Apr 4th, 2006, 8:44pm
If you get too high you will be able to get flipped easier too!!! Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dontletitbend on Apr 4th, 2006, 10:50pm
after taking out the rubber mounts on the K frame you'll need every little bit you can get just to get back to stock height. those take about 2" away Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Chad #438- RETIRED!!! on Apr 5th, 2006, 5:52pm
Question for you mopar guys. I have 1976 Fury 2dr like to car on the last page. Could I pass this car off as a 77 for 77 and newer show? Is 77 the same car?
I hate to do anything against the rules, but I can't find one that is 77 or newer in this body style.
Chad Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dontletitbend on Apr 5th, 2006, 11:22pm
i would just call it a 77 or 78... pretty much the same thing. after you take all the grill and headlights off you cant tell anyway. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by JIMBOJONES on Apr 6th, 2006, 06:42am
Hey I was looking at this trans last night and it didnt look like my last 904. The kick down for this one is at the same location as the shifter.
My question is could this be a 727 or am I just wishing.
If so, What would be the physical characteristics to determine a 904 or 727.
How does everyone wire down the kick down or do you just leave it hooked up to the carb linkage?
I also noticed that the shift lever on this one is bent to conform to the bottom of the trans and is longer than I would like it to be, so I have to modify it to keep the shifter linkage away from my foot. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dontletitbend on Apr 6th, 2006, 07:08am
only advice i can give you about the kickdown is to replace it with a transmission that doesnt have kickdown linkage...like a CHEVY transmission..but here's how you tell the difference between 904/727 ..
www.bulkpart.com/CHRYid.html Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dm440c on Apr 6th, 2006, 07:54am
every 727 and 904 I know of from 1965 - up have the kickdown lever on top of the shift lever on the same shaft. There are some differences by model and year in the length and shape of the levers, but it's the same basic idea. The shift shaft is the same on all of them so you can interchange levers from any of these transmissions if you have one that you like best.
We definitely do NOT leave the stock kickdown linkage from the carb in place, it comes out and goes in the trash. We bend the kickdown lever 90° so that it points straight up, which makes it easier to get it out of the way of the shifter. Then it's easy to wire it back 3/4 of the total travel.
I usually look at the trans pan, if there is a bulge in the pan right where the fill tube comes down it is a 727. You can usually see this from the top or bottom. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Chad #438- RETIRED!!! on Apr 6th, 2006, 2:58pm
I was talking to this guy last night that told me I could put a chevy 350 auto tranny behind this 318 pretty easy. Sounds like crap to me, but is it?
Chad Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Apr 6th, 2006, 3:40pm
on Apr 6th, 2006, 2:58pm, Chad #438 wrote:
I was talking to this guy last night that told me I could put a chevy 350 auto tranny behind this 318 prttey easy. Sounds like crap to me, but is it?
Chad
With an adapter plate it will work........ Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by JIMBOJONES on Apr 7th, 2006, 06:29am
Even with an adapter plate, dont you need to change the flywheel, and drill some additional holes in it? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Chad #438- RETIRED!!! on Apr 7th, 2006, 09:01am
I decided last night not even going to try putting a gm tranny in with a mopar engine. Rules I just got say driveline must match car brand. gm to gm, mopar to mopar, etc. So I'll just have to take your advice and be nice to the tranny. not supposed to swap rear ends either, but I think I am going to put my BIA in it just for good measure. Gotta go find some brakes to put on it now.
Chad Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by snoopy187 on Apr 17th, 2006, 10:23am
put it straight to the frame Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dontletitbend on Apr 28th, 2006, 12:25am
At it again...look familiar?
this newyorker is for an 80 and newer derby... think it will hold up to crown vics and 80's GM??
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Post by dontletitbend on May 1st, 2006, 6:49pm
on May 1st, 2006, 11:48am, JordanBlanton wrote:
After seein' those blue 'dobas, I sure wouldn't wanna be in a Vic with that comin' at me. How much building can ya do on this one? Are the front seams gonna be welded? K-frame sucked solid? Is the V welded straight to the frame? It looks like it to me.
yes its built to different rules but it should be just about as strong.. bumper is welded just like before.. seams welded from A arms forward.. K frame isnt welded solid but the mounts are removed with steel washers in their place. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by stephan07 on May 11th, 2006, 5:10pm
how a mid 60s pinch frame is it better then newer pinch frames or not? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on May 11th, 2006, 8:28pm
on May 11th, 2006, 5:10pm, stephan07 wrote:
how a mid 60s pinch frame is it better then newer pinch frames or not?
Some will probably say they're comparable...........I don't think they're anything the same. Doba will walk all over one...... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by JIMBOJONES on May 17th, 2006, 08:46am
Here's a question.
Since they are a front end car and everyone just builds them that way, my rules allow for 21 inches of plate on the humps outer-side only.
Where would you plate it?
At the start middle or back of the hump?
I am leaning toward the front of the humps because I am used to the 80's 5th aves creasing there, but would somewhere else be better? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on May 17th, 2006, 11:08am
I would plate it directly over the humps......... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dontletitbend on Jun 1st, 2006, 02:33am
almost done....ready for doorbar and paint. no welding allowed on the trunk lid..only 4 bolts.. its bolted on all 4 corners and you can see the tuck job.. i made very small notch on top side of frame...should i take the bumper back off or leave it on? any suggestions ....
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Post by demo17 on Jun 1st, 2006, 09:21am
Looks good. I would leave the back bumper on, compress the shocks then run 2 straps to the taillight panel. Nice front bumper on the rear. You are way ahead of me, I better get busy. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Jun 1st, 2006, 4:18pm
Scrap the back bumper........... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by DodgeMe on Jun 1st, 2006, 7:37pm
Just a thought... And if the rules would allow it... you might think about placing your "rear" bumper inside the far tail of the trunk and mounting it to the frame... then welding the "2 straps" (if allowed) from the bumper to the trunk lid (where you have it folded down)
Just my brainstorming on how to:
1. Make it stronger
2. Make it fold better
3. Reduce the risk of hanging up with another car
Note : It might do all of the above, but increase the initial stress on the humps, hopefully you're allowed to chain them. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dontletitbend on Jun 1st, 2006, 8:44pm
i've already chained the humps... i'm thinking ill leave the bumper on until the back bends up in the heat.. then maybe after it bends up then i'll cut the back bumper off.. or i might just prebend the back before i even take it to the derby. i want the back to be soft so it will take a beating without just falling apart. remember the back is for other people to hit.. the front is the business end. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by fancil84d on Jun 6th, 2006, 11:01pm
hey guys i just picked up a pre ran doba the front is straight the rear has started going up the humps are fine but right about the middle of the trunk on the drivers side is rusty and it looks like it might break leaving the leaf springs on the drivers side back of the leaf just hanging there
i cant patch plate or bandaid the frame so any other suggestions would be great Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Jun 6th, 2006, 11:11pm
Sounds like the only thing you can do is leave it be and run the front end....... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by ki11er120 on Jun 10th, 2006, 10:23pm
the lines that go to colecters, where do they go? the heat passeges that go to the carb
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Post by JIMBOJONES on Jun 13th, 2006, 11:20am
Well its ready.
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Post by demo17 on Jun 13th, 2006, 2:04pm
Jimbo, if you don't mind, may I offer some suggestions.
1. beat in the quarters to help it fold in. The trunk will be stronger if all the metal folds to the inside. leaving them this way, you get the quarter to blow out.
2. Trim bumper ends. The ends of the bumper are just a good spot to get hung up on another car.
3. trim for tire clearance. The back side of the rear tires need more room, when the back comes in, that metal will get in your tires. On the front tires cut off the lower front part of your fender. I usually cut right below the battery tray and wrap around the front. This metal will deffinately get in your tires, then you won't be able to steer.
I just thought I would trow that out there, no sense in something stupid taking you out, that could have been prevented. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Jun 13th, 2006, 6:59pm
Here's what I do to the rear quarters of my cars........Also the front fenders.
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Post by 2timeloser on Jun 14th, 2006, 12:42am
Jimbojones the car looks tuff you will have fun. Hey do you guys that run the dobas prefer to have the trunks sit high or low? I have seen both. Thanks Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Jun 14th, 2006, 1:55pm
I like the trunks to sit low.........The car in the pics above wasn't done when the pics were taken (as you can tell)........ Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by JIMBOJONES on Jun 15th, 2006, 10:41am
I set up all my Mopars lower in the rear.
I cant get away with that much prebending for this show.
The car has to be fresh with no pre bending. I have since trimmed the bumpers and the fenders and quarters.
We are not allowed hood bolts, just #9 wire for the hood.
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Post by demo17 on Jun 15th, 2006, 10:45am
How, do you 9-wire your hood? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by JIMBOJONES on Jun 16th, 2006, 07:21am
Well I have washers welded on the hood in 6 places, the same places I would run a hood bolt if you could bolt to the frame.
Take the #9 wire fold in half run through the hood and around what ever the rules say you can, take a large pipe or #9 tightener (I made one) and twist tight. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by demo17 on Jun 16th, 2006, 09:17am
So I take it your running it right behind the radiator support. can you run some from your hood to your bumper? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by JIMBOJONES on Jun 16th, 2006, 09:40am
Yes just not in front of the radiator. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by stephan07 on Jun 18th, 2006, 10:33pm
would you guys wedge or doba or what?
its a 77 Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Twisted66 on Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:41pm
whats the best way to mount a v bumper to a doba Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Jun 23rd, 2006, 11:20pm
on Jun 23rd, 2006, 10:41pm, TboneX45X wrote:
whats the best way to mount a v bumper to a doba
Weld it straight to the frame............ Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Twisted66 on Jun 24th, 2006, 12:05am
so should i just cut the shocks off then or weld them to the sides of the fame and to the bumper after i have welded the bumper straight to the frame Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by BFAI on Jun 24th, 2006, 11:47am
Do the two cars in the pictues have their shocks welded out? And are the front ends of these things tuff enough for a v bumper? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by mopar71c on Jun 25th, 2006, 3:22pm
i have a 73 plymouth satallite and was wanting to know if there is anyway to make the front end not want to give? I'm going to put a 77 yorker bumper on the front of it. I have the k frame welded to the unibody. any tips would be great thanks Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Twisted66 on Jun 25th, 2006, 8:26pm
just fully weld everything weld the core support up and weld all seams inside and out had a buddy run a satelite one year and they are pretty tough Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by rush49 on Jul 13th, 2006, 12:40pm
I was looking at my 76 charger last night and I was going to collapse my shocks and if I collapse my shocks my hood and fender will stick out further than my bumper. any suggestions? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by mopar71c on Jul 13th, 2006, 12:46pm
fold your hood down and fold your fenders in by the core support Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by rush49 on Jul 13th, 2006, 12:52pm
the shocks are pretty short. How bout welding them solid with them being extended. would that work. or would it be to much leverage. I ran one last year and I left the shocks working. I had problems with bumpers breaking in the middle. I ran the car 3 times and broke to bumpers. they were the steal back bumpers. I was thinking about putting a 74 chevy bumper on the front. whats everybody think Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Jul 13th, 2006, 5:52pm
on Jul 13th, 2006, 12:52pm, rush42 wrote:
the shocks are pretty short. How bout welding them solid with them being extended. would that work. or would it be to much leverage. I ran one last year and I left the shocks working. I had problems with bumpers breaking in the middle. I ran the car 3 times and broke to bumpers. they were the steal back bumpers. I was thinking about putting a 74 chevy bumper on the front. whats everybody think
Slide the shocks back on the frame and weld the bumper straight to the frame if your rules allow, then weld the shocks to the bumper........Then do like mopar71c said and fold the front fenders in and also fold the excess hood down.......Or you could just put a v-bumper on there.
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Post by demo17 on Jul 18th, 2006, 11:16am
It's story\picture time!!
1980 Dodge St. Regis. I got 1.5 runs out of it and 2 4th place finishes.
Here it is fresh, I built it for an 80's and newer derby which turned into just a 1 heat deal since there was only 8 cars that showed. I ended up 4th because I broke and axle and dug a hole with my one good tire.
Here it is after the 1 heat derby. Just my luck too they pay the top 3 and I end up 4th.
The back end was setting a little low and I had 2 cars up on my trunk in this derby. Since it was a 1 heat deal, this is what I consider a .5 of a derby.
I got the car fixed up to run #2. I replaced the axle and welded the trunk lid, since we couldn't for the first one, and I welded a little more on the doors.
Here the back end is coming up nice.
In my heat race I had a Roundy in there with me, so I was trying to work him over, but that car moved real good for a big car. He caught me off guard and we ended up going back to back. It was a hard 3/4 track shot and surprisingly he showed more damage than me.
Here I am after the heat race. The back end came in nice and the front is starting to go.
In the final a Royal Monaco had a hard on for me, so we were exchanging blows throughout the final. I ended up 4th he got 3rd. Once again they only paid the top 3. The only reason I had to stop was my passenger side rear frame pulled away from the floor and was digging into the dirt. I couldn't go forwards, and barely go backwards. I ended up backed against the wall. Here are the after shots.
The bumper didn't come off until the tractor hooked onto it to pull me out.
Here is a shot of the rear frame digging into the dirt. This is sticking so far down that when the car was on the trailer the right rear tire was up in the air.
I just thought I would show that these R body cars can handle the 70's iron too. And if they can handle the 70's then they can handle the 80's. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Jul 18th, 2006, 10:43pm
Here's a few after pics........
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Post by T.J. Weaver #23 on Jul 19th, 2006, 6:51pm
I got one that the rear looks just like that after 1 run and was wondering whether or not to notch it before the second go round. It won a 14 car heat and has a 5th place feature finish out of a 30 car feature. Smoked the tranny and wasted a 74 chevy front bumper(front is HARD) Frame is still straight as an arrow on both ends, just not much sheetmetal left on the decklid, I like the way yours rolled up, so i think i'll notch mine before I run it again Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by bj6993 on Jul 19th, 2006, 11:58pm
demo17 heres a question for you where did the front end bend at and did you do anything to the frontend before you ran it cuz I will be running one in sept at a 80 and new derby. Send me a message if you don't want to post here, info on these cars would be great. Thanks. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by rush49 on Aug 2nd, 2006, 2:52pm
I ran a 76 charger a few weeks ago. The condenser is held in by rubber grommets. I learned it the hard way by loosing a radiator. I just wanted to let other people know to help prevent a problem. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by TheEnforcer187 on Aug 18th, 2006, 11:44am
how are the front bumpers on the 78 dobas? It's a chain show that it will be in. We can weld the bumpers on good. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by demo17 on Aug 18th, 2006, 12:37pm
That bumper will be fine for a chain derby. If it was full weld, no it would not work. It seems to work ok for a limited weld, but don't expect it to last a long time afterwards. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Augie on Aug 25th, 2006, 01:17am
Will a "C" body 8 3/4 housing fit under a 77 Fury, or will the tires stick out too far in the wheel wells?Thanks Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by demo17 on Aug 25th, 2006, 08:59am
It will fit just fine. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by demo17 on Sep 7th, 2006, 9:31pm
Here are some more pics of another r-body I built. 1980 Newport, this is my Wife's car. She won our hometown derby with this thing. It took a nose to nose shot with a '77 New Yorker and she took out a suicide lincoln. I think this car did pretty good for a limited weld derby.
Keep in mind we can build some good cars and there were plenty of them there. Here's how it ended.
1st - Amber (my Wife) (19Amber) - '80 Newport
2nd - Ryan (my Brother) (Ryan) - '77 New Yorker
3rd - Andy (friend that builds with us) - '62 Suicide Lincoln
and then
10th - me - '63 suicide lincoln
What do you think of her car? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by demo17 on Sep 8th, 2006, 09:04am
welded a-arms forward, 50% of the trunk, and the trunk floor seam from my notch to the front side of the humps. Rearend chained and k-frame pulled up tight. It was a slightly prerun car when we got it, just sheet metal damage, then I undone what was built wrong and redid it the way I wanted to. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by bj6993 on Sep 8th, 2006, 10:09am
what kind of bumper did you use on the front since thats not the factory one and did you run if without a back bumper from the word start. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by demo17 on Sep 8th, 2006, 10:44am
I think the front bumper came off of a fury. It has the backing on it. The back bumper fell off in the heat and we said screw it, don't put it on. The rear bumper was on there long enough to get the back end to start coming up, then it fell off. She was 3rd in her heat, then won the consi, then won the feature, so the car saw a lot of action that night, but minimal work and it is ready to go again. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by BRADC#3 on Sep 20th, 2006, 2:11pm
where is the best spot to notch these cars? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Sep 20th, 2006, 6:41pm
on Sep 20th, 2006, 2:11pm, 11X wrote:
where is the best spot to notch these cars?
There isn't one........No need to notch a MOPAR.... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by fordsucks on Sep 24th, 2006, 6:59pm
I would notch one right behind the leaf spring hanger. Notching a Mopar can make a big difference if done correctly. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by crashed on Sep 28th, 2006, 11:14am
on Aug 18th, 2006, 12:37pm, demo17 wrote:
That bumper will be fine for a chain derby. If it was full weld, no it would not work. It seems to work ok for a limited weld, but don't expect it to last a long time afterwards.
I have ran many dobas with 78 bumpers in full weld shows and they have held up great. Not as strong as the 76 but still a good bumper Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Sep 28th, 2006, 1:01pm
on Sep 28th, 2006, 11:14am, crush11 wrote:
I have ran many dobas with 78 bumpers in full weld shows and they have held up great. Not as strong as the 76 but still a good bumper
They're good bumpers for a one run car. Not good IMO for anything else. V-bumper is the way to go on a full weld doba. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by newportman on Oct 1st, 2006, 8:22pm
i am going to run a doba for the first time next year and i was just wondering were these cars like to bend at. Here is what i have all done to the front took out the front to pucks and ran 3/4 alltread all the way threw the frame and did the same running the alltread in the back holes of the k-frame but i left the rubbers in but smashed them tight and welded the k-frame to the frame itself were i could weld and i am going to put a v bumper straight to the frame any suggestions greatly appreciated
thanks Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by PA DemoDude on Nov 11th, 2006, 4:49pm
has anyone ran a 75 valiant, its going up against 80+ cars i havent got it yet but i think the k frame does not have any rubber bushings yet could that be possible? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by DRIVER X on Nov 15th, 2006, 06:34am
looking at a 78' magnum. is that the same as a doba? looks close. only dodges that i have run is diplomats/5th aves. is the magnum stronger that those? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Nov 15th, 2006, 07:38am
on Nov 15th, 2006, 06:34am, racedriver2005 wrote:
looking at a 78' magnum. is that the same as a doba? looks close. only dodges that i have run is diplomats/5th aves. is the magnum stronger that those?
The magnum is the same basic car as the doba............ Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by WILDSIDE on Nov 26th, 2006, 12:21pm
whats the best thing to do with a 78 lebaron rear end. its got the leaf springs and a very solid bumber. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Nov 26th, 2006, 2:36pm
on Nov 26th, 2006, 12:21pm, i8urgrl wrote:
whats the best thing to do with a 78 lebaron rear end. its got the leaf springs and a very solid bumber.
What's a bumber? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Boondock Saint on Nov 30th, 2006, 9:12pm
It seems like the Cordobas always rust out behind the rear shackle mounts. I've seen many were the shackles punch right through the trunk floor. Does a guy just plate them back down or can you do anything else to make them stronger... either on a car that they haven't rusted through or on a car where they're already inside the trunk?
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Post by moparkid17 on Nov 30th, 2006, 10:19pm
Patch the trunk pan and remanufacture some leaf spring mounts/hangers. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by DodgeMe on Dec 1st, 2006, 11:33am
Tramper,
I'd go back to Page 13 of this thread and start reading. I know their are at least 2 good examples, pics, explanations of ways to fix the shackle issue. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Boondock Saint on Dec 1st, 2006, 12:57pm
Thanks Moparkid17 & DodgeMe.
Is welding square stock to the frame and running the shackle from there the best thing to do? It sure seems like it would work really well. I was just wondering what others have done.
I ran one a while back that had steel plated in the trunk (only a small amount to cover the hole punched by the shackle) and the shackle was bolted to it... the kid I bought it from did the patch work as it was his daily driver... it seemed to hold up pretty well. I think I like the welding to the frame idea better though. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by DRIVER X on Dec 16th, 2006, 09:58am
putting a sbc into a 78' magnum. looking for pics of homemade motor mounts to get an idea. thanks. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by 2timeloser on Dec 16th, 2006, 1:00pm
If you can just move the springs that would help to the uni body frame postion and would be real easy too. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Dec 16th, 2006, 1:03pm
on Dec 16th, 2006, 09:58am, racedriver2005 wrote:
putting a sbc into a 78' magnum. looking for pics of homemade motor mounts to get an idea. thanks.
Talk to "dontletitbend" on here............He has done it and I believe he even has some pics. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Jesse #10x on Jan 2nd, 2007, 4:29pm
So a 77 Fury Salon would fit into this category?? How tough are they against old iron, is it worth the time to pull the body off the frame and weld, what else do you guys do to these, I am breaking my B Body cherry with this car. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by derbyman83 on Jan 2nd, 2007, 9:00pm
jesse u should be in luck b/c a 77 fury salon dosent have a removeable frame so all welding can be done without removing a sub or frame the only removeable frame member is the k frame and u should only have to completely remove that to plate it so good luck with it they are pretty hard cars Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Jesse #10x on Jan 3rd, 2007, 5:01pm
Thanks for the help, any other help would be awesome. So do I build them any different from the big cars, or more like the 80's newer?? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by PA DemoDude on Jan 3rd, 2007, 6:00pm
80 newer it should be like a big diplomat ket rid of the k frame mounts seam weld if u can and weld the k frame to the rails if u can Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by demoderby13 on Jan 3rd, 2007, 10:20pm
does anybody have any pics of how they weld up the frame with the engine out of the car? also how do most of you connect the subframe to the other part of the car? pics would be greatly appriciated. if you dont want people to see them IM me. thanks Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Eightball on Jan 12th, 2007, 02:48am
Question? On these four bushing bolts, are you guys blowing a hole through the top of the frame and then all-threading them down tight? Or are you just removing the rubber bushing and putting washers in there place? Thanks, Eightball Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by 2timeloser on Jan 12th, 2007, 03:07am
All Magnums are tow package cars that is what I like about them they have extra I beam inside of rear frame rails. also on wleding the k member there is alot of ways to do it ask alot of questions we have figured out many ways to them and they are all very creative Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by demo17 on Jan 12th, 2007, 2:46pm
on Jan 12th, 2007, 03:07am, 2timeloser wrote:
All Magnums are tow package cars that is what I like about them they have extra I beam inside of rear frame rails. also on wleding the k member there is alot of ways to do it ask alot of questions we have figured out many ways to them and they are all very creative
All b-body cars have that extra piece in the rear frame, from what I have seen. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by KoryJr7 on Jan 15th, 2007, 7:34pm
81 newport anything to help would be great ? give me the info and ill use what i can Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by demoderby13 on Jan 28th, 2007, 6:53pm
what type of bumpers do you guys put on the fronts of these? i have access to a '76 impala bumper, how well do you think it would hold up? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by racnaa on Jan 28th, 2007, 7:03pm
I leave the factory bumper on if it has the metal box behind it. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Wicked13L on Jan 28th, 2007, 8:30pm
on Jan 28th, 2007, 6:53pm, demoderby13 wrote:
what type of bumpers do you guys put on the fronts of these? i have access to a '76 impala bumper, how well do you think it would hold up?
Would be a very good bumper for this frame, on the dobas people even run the pointys if that tells you anything about the frame.......... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Wicked13L on Jan 29th, 2007, 09:35am
on Jan 29th, 2007, 01:36am, IMP23x wrote:
i have seen a pointy on the front of one and it went through 5 derbies before bending up front...strong frames on these cars...i might try to run a 76 chevy bumper up front on mine this year..or a 74 havent decided yet
Without a doubt go with the 74.........much stronger the GM wannbe pointy...........the 76 would be a good bumper just that it is not as strong as the 74 and these frames are capable to take a beating why not give it to em through a 74 bumper.................. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by IMP23x on Jan 29th, 2007, 11:52am
i have seen a pointy on the front of one and it went through 5 derbies before bending up front...strong frames on these cars...i might try to run a 76 chevy bumper up front on mine this year..or a 74 havent decided yet Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by 25 on Jan 29th, 2007, 7:43pm
I JUST PUT A 74 IMPERIAL BUMPER ON MY 80 NEWPORT I HOPE THERE AS STRONG UP FRONT AS EVERYONE SAYS CAR WILL BE RUN WITH OLD IRON ....... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by fordflames on Jan 29th, 2007, 8:35pm
on Jan 29th, 2007, 7:43pm, Newpy wrote:
I JUST PUT A 74 IMPERIAL BUMPER ON MY 80 NEWPORT I HOPE THERE AS STRONG UP FRONT AS EVERYONE SAYS CAR WILL BE RUN WITH OLD IRON .......
I hope so too, I am gonna put that bumper I got from you on front of my doba. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Wicked13L on Jan 29th, 2007, 8:36pm
It will hold up well...........just be sure you bumper is mounted well............... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by 25 on Jan 29th, 2007, 8:41pm
I WELDED IT RIGHT TO THE FRONT FRAME ....NO BRACKETS...... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Wicked13L on Jan 29th, 2007, 8:43pm
Do you add the shocks to that or just bumper straight to the frame? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by 25 on Jan 29th, 2007, 8:49pm
NOPE NO SHOCKS JUST WELDED FLUSH TO THE FRAME THINK IT WILL STAY ON? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by moparkid17 on Jan 29th, 2007, 9:38pm
I always use the shocks on mine, just a little insurance I guess. Either way it shouldn't go anywhere. Here's one after 4 runs.
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Post by demoderby13 on Jan 29th, 2007, 11:25pm
thats one nice lookin doba moparkid. do you guys have any little tips that you guys do to your cars. subframe welding, body seam welding, ect. any little bit would be greatly appreciated. if you dont want anybody to know you can pm me, im pretty sure i wouldnt ever run against any of you. i live in north central nebraska and dont go much farther than our county fair. thanks Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Wicked13L on Jan 30th, 2007, 11:06am
If I was you I would put the shocks on there just to be safe...........like Moparkid said just a little insurance..........
Demoderby...........read through these tips you will find all that stuff you are wondering about..........What county fairs do you run? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by demoderby13 on Jan 30th, 2007, 11:11am
i usually just run in the cherry county fair, but im thinkin about puting a car together for either the ord derby or the burwell (sp) derby. im graduating this spring so getting into college and getting a car to drive to college will put a restriction on money, so im still debating on whether or not to go to ord or burwell Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Wicked13L on Jan 30th, 2007, 12:40pm
Well burwells is later in the year...........so it may conflict with college, that would be why i didnt go to drive but I went and watched a good derby...........some good drivers there...........what kind of pinch frame are you building?.......... Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by demoderby13 on Jan 30th, 2007, 9:54pm
i still havent decided where im going to college yet so i might be able to make it if i dont start until second semester. im in the process of gettin a '76 cordoba. it has alittle rust in the rear quaters, i still need to go look at it alittle better. i know where 3 others are but i cant find the owners so that kinda sucks. Keith13L where you from and where do you usually run? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by Wicked13L on Jan 30th, 2007, 10:01pm
on Jan 30th, 2007, 9:54pm, demoderby13 wrote:
i still havent decided where im going to college yet so i might be able to make it if i dont start until second semester. im in the process of gettin a '76 cordoba. it has alittle rust in the rear quaters, i still need to go look at it alittle better. i know where 3 others are but i cant find the owners so that kinda sucks. Keith13L where you from and where do you usually run?
PM'ed You............ Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by tomot1999 on Feb 15th, 2007, 12:26pm
I'm building a 78 monaco 4-door, this is my first older mopar only built a few 5th aves and diplomats before. On the K-member should I do the bolts before I turn up the tortion bars? Also I know the backs aren't real rugged on these cars, most guys around here run mopars with no trunk or bumper and the push right in pretty quick. I was thinking about pounding from the speaker deck to the lock cyl and then anouther crease across the middle of the trunk from side to side u guys think this will work. Another thing is it dosen't have the steal backed bumper will a crown vic bumper be strong enough for this car?
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Post by dm440c on Feb 15th, 2007, 5:15pm
see if you can find a Cordoba bumper to use. Once we were in a pinch and moved the back bumper to the front on one of these, it actually worked real well. Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by kidcrash603 on Feb 15th, 2007, 11:25pm
Dan,
Guess what monaco Tom is talking about? Re: 73-79 B body (Cordoba's and other pinch framer
Post by dm440c on Feb 16th, 2007, 11:21am
one that I didn't get
seriously though, your experiment with the pre-bending is probably a good idea, at least I don't think it will hurt anything. We've tried a few different things with the trunks on these c