|
Post by broadheaddecals on May 6, 2012 12:50:36 GMT -5
THANKS. WHY BACK UP WITH FORDS WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE 2WDS UP FRONT
|
|
|
Post by hcwt25 on May 6, 2012 23:12:33 GMT -5
They don't a have a cross member for aways back and they like to go sideways and most 4wds will clear ur bumper
|
|
|
Post by broadheaddecals on May 7, 2012 15:52:41 GMT -5
Ok thanks
|
|
|
Post by plumbdumb on May 8, 2012 0:02:54 GMT -5
Local fair is running 1/2 ton 2wd class this summer (they run the 4x4 and 3/4 tons separate). We have a 1972 f100 trailer special. The back looks really tough, but the front has nothing on a dodge. We are going to run a cordoba front bumper and hope for the best. Any ideas on slowing the down the sideways bending? The front looks like it could be good for a few hits anyway. Also, are the rear bumper brackets worth messing with? We can't weld the back bumper or tailgate, so I think we are gonna ditch the brackets and try to get the back bumper to where the rear bed mounts will go through it.
|
|
|
Post by plumbdumb on May 26, 2012 10:44:26 GMT -5
This isn't our truck, but it's a pretty good picture of what there is to work with on a 1972 F100. I'm hoping we will be able to add some strength by tying the frame rails together with a diy radiator mount. We are allowed 5" of weld per side to mount the bumper to the frame. Does anyone have a picture of how you have mounted a bumper on a truck like this? Attachments:
|
|
|
Post by tude on May 27, 2012 16:29:24 GMT -5
Cut the frame rail off at the tip, mount square or or c-channel inside the rail with a flat plate on the end to it. The weld the plate to the bumBer
|
|
|
Post by plumbdumb on Jun 6, 2012 9:46:31 GMT -5
Thanks for the tip. I will have to see if we can get away with that here.
We got the bed of our 72 this last weekend. We removed the bumper brackets and realized that, if you beat the frame rails in a bit on each side, the bumper will slide over them and rest almost against the rear crossmember/brace thing. We are not allowed to weld anything on the back of the truck, but are encouraged to get creative with bolting. I think we are going to try to get a piece of allthread through the frame, bumper and bed. Not sure if it will work, but it's probably worth trying right?
|
|
|
Post by plumbdumb on Jun 10, 2012 21:51:54 GMT -5
It is definitely going to take some work to make the back work the way I described, but hopefully it will be worth it. Don't know if the allthread trick will work or not though since we had to beat the ends of the frame pretty good to get the bumper to fit, so the back bed mounting holes are a bit warped. Could be it's a really dumb idea, but we'll see I guess. We were able to sledge the bumper almost up to the rear crossmember. Once the truck is running we are planning on backing into a big tree or something to make sure it's on as far as it can go before we bolt or chain it.
We were also able to strip the front to about the same point as the picture I posted above. The radiator support is pretty weak looking!
Now for some questions...
What I'm thinking after getting a better look at the cheesy radiator support is to use a big piece of flat steel that the allthread will hold in place. It is a good idea on these c-channel frames to run the bolt all the way through the frame or just the top part? I ask because we are going to use 1" allthread and it doesn't look like the bottom part of the frame is much bigger than that. I don't want to do anything that is going to make the frame weaker.
Next question is about the inner fenders. They seem pretty close to the motor. Should they be hammered or cut for more clearance?
|
|
|
Post by dontknowhowtoweld on Jun 20, 2012 11:45:19 GMT -5
All my allthread on my truck I welded to the side of the frame instead of going through the frame. I've never trimmed steel inner fenders.
|
|
|
Post by hcwt25 on Jun 20, 2012 23:08:03 GMT -5
I've ran it threw but will do to the side from now on cuzi run bumper shocks on the inside and don't like cutting any part of my frame. But just my .02
|
|
|
Post by hcwt25 on Jul 4, 2012 0:01:29 GMT -5
As for the inner fenders I've never cut but I am going to try creasing them on my 68 high boy to make them roll up and out from the motor I figure is worth a shot I also put my bumpe shocks (mopars) on the inside of the fram in between the support peace for the front leaf mount crossmember and welded them solid so the supports are welled and the bottom of he front of the shocks are weld to that crossmember everywere I an get into and all the way around the out side of the fame rails and inside were I an get to then my bumper welded on and my shocks go all the way to the inner crossmember and the the stearing box then the all thread goes on the out side of the fame
|
|
|
Post by PACMAN #58 on Jul 27, 2012 17:29:04 GMT -5
Next question is about the inner fenders. They seem pretty close to the motor. Should they be hammered or cut for more clearance? Some models/years definitely need some inner fender clearance. Couple good hits and they could be in your spark plugs, brake lines and other vital areas. I either cut them back or when possible cut and fold then weld or bolt the folded area back together like you see on outside fenders cut for wheel clearance. If you do the cut and fold method you can actual strengthen your fenders, which would also help keep your upper core support up and straight.
|
|
|
Post by reece15 on Aug 14, 2012 18:10:22 GMT -5
80s ford front end will hold up . just cut tip off hard bumber. but itll bend under the doors. but theres always stuff i know how to keep them from that
|
|
|
Post by driverxracing on Aug 14, 2012 19:16:44 GMT -5
All my allthread on my truck I welded to the side of the frame instead of going through the frame. I've never trimmed steel inner fenders. yeah, but your truck is junk.....
|
|
|
Post by bartoo513 on Aug 25, 2012 6:15:42 GMT -5
i used my 76 mercury cougar bumper on the front of mine its nice and flat and easy to weld on. if you weld the cage in right it shouldnt bend in the belly and putting a 4x4 axle in the front will make it harder or just box the frame in
|
|