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Post by XtremeMopar#307 on Nov 28, 2011 19:49:00 GMT -5
how about building your own steering column? im new to that
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Post by camoboy on Nov 29, 2011 11:03:27 GMT -5
this is the wiring diagram that i am going to use. my electrics teacher helped me out with it. it is pretty easy set up it just looks complicated Attachments:
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Post by snitily19 on Nov 29, 2011 11:09:44 GMT -5
this is the wiring diagram that i am going to use. my electrics teacher helped me out with it. it is pretty easy set up it just looks complicated What kind of car are you running? Whats with the fuses?
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Post by PACMAN #58 on Nov 29, 2011 14:21:53 GMT -5
how about building your own steering column? im new to that X2
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Post by camoboy on Nov 29, 2011 14:47:59 GMT -5
this is the wiring diagram that i am going to use. my electrics teacher helped me out with it. it is pretty easy set up it just looks complicated What kind of car are you running? Whats with the fuses? it doesnt matter what car your running this is just a general wiring set up that would work on all cars.....you might have to make some adjustments for a ford though cuz of the way the distributer is set up the fuses are so nothing gets facked up or start a fire... its easier to replace a fuse then a tranny cooler fan IMO plus i forgot to mention on it that the toggle switch below the push button starter is the main power switch. turn it on and you get power to everything
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Post by JoJo Davis on Nov 29, 2011 14:58:27 GMT -5
What kind of car are you running? Whats with the fuses? it doesnt matter what car your running this is just a general wiring set up that would work on all cars.....you might have to make some adjustments for a ford though cuz of the way the distributer is set up the fuses are so nothing gets facked up or start a fire... its easier to replace a fuse then a tranny cooler fan IMO plus i forgot to mention on it that the toggle switch below the push button starter is the main power switch. turn it on and you get power to everything Definitely not going to work with all cars, but anyways what about when the fuse blows to your fuel pump after your first hit? What do you do then, or lets say your car cuts off, but your starter switch doesnt work becuase the fuse burnt out? The best designs for wiring a motor, ford, chevy, or mopar, are already up here and you will never see fuses included in them!!!!! Why??? Its another thing to go bad in the heat of the moment. Great that your electrics teacher helped you set it up, but consider jumping on the GM thread and locating a different wiring setup, it will make your day easier as well.
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Post by snitily19 on Nov 29, 2011 19:16:13 GMT -5
I would do what Not-C said. That looks way to complicated and also I would not run a master toggle. Just me but the less the better.
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Post by Comet Cyclone on Nov 30, 2011 1:46:32 GMT -5
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Post by tude on Nov 30, 2011 2:23:30 GMT -5
i will update this all this weekend
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Post by PACMAN #58 on Nov 30, 2011 14:00:29 GMT -5
Do you have any U-Joints in it for it to bend?
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Post by glen130415 on Nov 30, 2011 14:14:04 GMT -5
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Post by snitily19 on Nov 30, 2011 14:48:49 GMT -5
Building steering columns is pretty easy if you just look at a few pictures of the ones that are sold on here. There are a few decions that need to be made before building one. Do you want the column to have a slide or allow the whole column to push back as the car bellies? Is the column going to be used in multiple cars with different box splines?
If the steering box is behind the engine cradle then only one u-joint is needed at the box and one heim to attach to the bar. I would not put a slide on one of these colunms as they do not seem to push as far back.
If the steering box is in front of the engine cradle such as on GMs(excluding caddilacs) and 80's and newer fords 2 u joints will be needed. One at the box and one close to the firewall. You will also need 2 heims to attach to your bar and hold to column from pivoting. If you want a slide it will need to be between the 2 u joints and make sure there is enough slide. Also with a slide you will need something to hold the steering shaft from moving back and forth, you can use collars that can be bought, but we have been using heater hose with hose clamps. This provides for some give if the slide gets collapsed all the way and is cost effective.
A few things to remember:
1. Dont start out with the steering wheel to close to you as it will come back if you do not have a slide on it. 2. Make sure that your top heim is as close to the steering wheel as possible at the beginning of the derby so there is not too much leverage and you will bend the column. 3. Use cold rolled steel when building. 4. Make sure your bottom hiem is not to close to your u-joint or it will slide back and hit the hiem and once again bend the column. 5. Make sure it is not to close to the a frame to begin. If your cage gets pushed over it will bend the column and lock it up. 6. Build a solid cage to frame and weld rockers good to avoid #5. 7. If you want to switch out the column from car to car with different splines on the gear box you can roll pin the bottom u-joint. 8. Have the column as straight as possible on the ones with 2 u-joints before the demo to avoid too much strain on the joints as the car bellies.
Money savers. (I have build columns cheap and expencive and they all work great if thought through properly)
-Instead of hiems, on columns with 2 u joints, you can use 7/8" nuts. ( you need a heim on the columns with one u-joint just at the box to allow for pivoting).
-U-joints off of factory columns work great on the top u-joint.
We have came up with a new design that we are going to try this year I think and see how it works but these are the things we have ran into and have experianced. I hope this helps a little. And I am a firm believer in columns now. Almost every car I have junked in the last 2 years have been sky high and I could still steer.
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Post by cw09 on Nov 30, 2011 23:51:58 GMT -5
Do you have any U-Joints in it for it to bend? Just starting like stated above... I will either use a ford slider with the u joints on the ends or else I will use a chevy truck slider with the ford u joints on the ends. Throw the rag joints away. It needs a couple of feet cut off of it at least. I was basically showing the start of it and it was a good deal with the pillow blocks already on it along with the shaft collars, rod and the steel already at the top to drill some holes in to bolt it on all for .50
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Post by 21w on Dec 12, 2011 19:40:22 GMT -5
im new to derbying andim wanting to learn how to get the trunk lid and speaker deck so low to where it is almost laying on the trunk floor area
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Post by derby111 on Dec 13, 2011 19:34:22 GMT -5
if im thinking right i believe they just cut the entire speaker deck out
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