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Post by mike055 on Feb 27, 2014 17:35:05 GMT -5
I can also add one leaf,and run all thread through frame and up through roof. would it be better to run the all thread close to the tailgate or close to humps or somewhere in between ?
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Post by dm440c on Feb 28, 2014 13:07:52 GMT -5
you gotta find a way to stop the migration of the frame away from the axle. Try prebending or if really desperate try notching. They love to go down and it's all bad when they do, but 9 times out of 10 it's because of the humps pinching together at the top of the arch.
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Post by mike055 on Feb 28, 2014 19:58:55 GMT -5
Ok. I'm running pretty short skid loader tires on the back I think I'll put the leafs on top and see how it sits. I don't want to notch until its my last option, just doesn't seem right to notch a leaf sprung wagon. Don't get me wrong notching has its place, I've had very good luck with notching sedans. This is my first wagon ever and just trying to give it the best run I can, but i guess the best education is trail and error.
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Post by dm440c on Mar 4, 2014 13:02:55 GMT -5
Ok. I'm running pretty short skid loader tires on the back I think I'll put the leafs on top and see how it sits. I don't want to notch until its my last option, just doesn't seem right to notch a leaf sprung wagon. Don't get me wrong notching has its place, I've had very good luck with notching sedans. This is my first wagon ever and just trying to give it the best run I can, but i guess the best education is trail and error. The strongest structural member in a Mopar wagon is the roof. I'm not kidding. The weakest part is the frame. I'm not kidding. I've said it many times- Mopar wagons are not like GM wagons, not at all, not even a little bit. Throw away all that you know about GM wagons when you are building a Mopar and start over with a blank notebook. Your final sentence is the path to success. Your chances of getting it right the first time are slim. These are difficult to get right and patience (plus the right set of build rules) is the key.
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Post by 187 on Mar 5, 2014 17:27:04 GMT -5
I'm building a 1966 T&C wagon should I notch hit at all or leave it and what should I do with the bumpers? And what do you guys mean by plateauing the humps? Pics? And any other tips and trucks for this car would really help me out a lot
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Post by dm440c on Mar 6, 2014 12:27:40 GMT -5
I'm building a 1966 T&C wagon should I notch hit at all or leave it ... notching is discussed in this thread already ... and what should I do with the bumpers? ... bumpers are discussed in this thread already ... And what do you guys mean by plateauing the humps? ... I don't know of anyone who described "plateauing" the humps or what that might be, but various hump build strategies are discussed in this thread already ... And any other tips and trucks for this car would really help me out a lot lots of "other" tips and tricks are discussed in this thread already
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Post by 187 on Mar 6, 2014 15:03:35 GMT -5
Sorry I posted that with my phone and it has spell check i ment plating the humps and what do they mean by chaining the humps
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Post by bhitter on May 14, 2014 21:07:48 GMT -5
ok guys I got a 65 dodge Monaco wagon did some pretty extensive work upfront to keep it from buckling but what about the back??? was gonna flat stack 9 leaves and drop axle on bottom side and I can put 4 plates in the rear and chain the humps allowed 2 pieces of all thread from roof to frame also so what do I do any opinions
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Post by dm440c on May 15, 2014 12:42:18 GMT -5
like we've said the humps are the weakest point, so I would plate there. Next like we've said is the body shearing off the frame so I'd run the allthread from roof through frame just inside of the tailgate. Flat stack relocated to the frame rails plus those mods and you've got 90% of it covered, the rest is up to you.
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Post by bhitter on May 15, 2014 20:09:28 GMT -5
im also running my "Fuel tank protector" right over the rear humps to help keep it from goin sky high
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Post by bhitter on May 15, 2014 20:19:15 GMT -5
plaiting the humps is where u weld your plates to the side of the humps on the frame where it arches over the rear end make sure its allowed in your rules I'm allowed 8 4x6 plates total on the car not including bumper brackets and also allowed to box in the y on the front of the car with 1/4 inch plates and it's not counted as plates correct me if i'm wrong and chaining is where u wrap a chain around the rear end axle tube and weld it to the side of the humps to keep them from shooting sky high
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Post by dm440c on May 16, 2014 10:35:41 GMT -5
pretty much, yeah. I don't weld the chain to the humps though. I make a continuous loop over top of the hump and under the axle.
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Post by bhitter on May 18, 2014 20:55:53 GMT -5
ya cant do that cause it cant go thru the body of subframers and body sits tight on our other cars
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Post by dm440c on May 20, 2014 6:52:24 GMT -5
you're allowed to plate and chain the humps but the chain can't go through the body....?.??... that's a pretty weird rule package.
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Post by bhitter on May 21, 2014 9:30:36 GMT -5
ya 8 plates anywhere on the car then u can run your allthread down thru roof to the frame and your also allowed 2 extra body bolts where u want
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