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Post by hotrod316 on Oct 13, 2011 8:19:48 GMT -5
thats what thought thanks
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Post by jjv77 on Oct 14, 2011 22:48:31 GMT -5
im a chevy guy going to be runing my first mopar this year... we get 4x4 by 1/4 plates any were we want them so where at behind the a arm do shockers bend? and where else on the font should i put my other 2 plates,,,,we get to weld a arms forward top seam only to will be hard nosed with 74 pala on the front
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Post by fordpowerforever on Oct 15, 2011 7:32:24 GMT -5
i would put all your plates in the major part of the curve behind the a arms, or at least one there on eash side and one on the inside of where the firewall mounts are because thats where they bend next.....
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Post by biga00jr on Oct 15, 2011 10:20:50 GMT -5
imo i would put them on the curve like he said but i would put them on top of the frame cuz in my experience they bent inward
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Post by dm440c on Oct 17, 2011 11:17:39 GMT -5
imo i would put them on the curve like he said but i would put them on top of the frame cuz in my experience they bent inward agree.... increase the section width in the dimension of max stress
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Post by dm440c on Nov 7, 2011 19:16:12 GMT -5
when you ask "where does a shocker bend" here is your answer.... in case you can't tell from the pics, that is: - under the firewall - between the firewall and the A arms - in front of the A arms - the crossmember under the engine
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Post by hemi1 on Nov 7, 2011 19:57:15 GMT -5
I haven't had a shocker subframe bend in front of a-arms yet,even with a pointy on the front,but we have had em bend under engine and behind a-arms so far.but we are slowly curing them problem areas.
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Post by dm440c on Nov 8, 2011 11:32:37 GMT -5
edit- I should have given more info to go with those pics. That car was built in a single weekend for a bone stock show, rubbers left in, 9 wire only, stock stock stock. I wanted to post the pics to show the baseline case and from there what y'all do to address the issues is your business
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Post by gearhead149 on Nov 8, 2011 18:07:30 GMT -5
was thinking of stuffing the shock inside the frame and cut the brackets on the bumper and weld it right to the shock and weld all seams on the whole sub, what else should i do to it open to suggestions??? what kind of bumper would help the car last longer, ive went through a cupple shockers and they have all bent different so im tryin some thing different.
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Post by Black333 on Nov 8, 2011 18:42:29 GMT -5
If you can seam weld the whole sub I would run a good flat bumper and concentrate on adding some subframe mounts between the doors or it will drop under the door. My opinion
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Post by twisted66 on Nov 8, 2011 19:50:35 GMT -5
I wanted to stuff shocks down the frame of a shocker along time ago but if I remember correctly there is some metal inside blocking you from being able to slide them back to far. So I fully extended them and welded them to the inside of the frame rail. All the way back to the engine crossmember. That should help keep it strong a arms forward. I have seen lots of shockers bend silly forward of the a arms if they give or take a weird hit. Also down bars, wire, chain, cable body bolts anything to help keep the sub held up in the back will help
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Post by Black333 on Nov 8, 2011 20:34:31 GMT -5
There is a plate inside the frame a little in front of the a arm. If you put the shocks on the inside it limits your radiator space. Extend and put them on the outside. MY OPINION
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Post by twisted66 on Nov 8, 2011 21:17:31 GMT -5
Then it limits steering. You can always do something to accommodate the rad. Plus I kinda like them up so the bottom of the rad don't get taken out then lean it back to get some vision back. The rad and steering are both pretty Important but me personally I like to have the ability to steer to full lock for tight manovers. Also if frame does move sideways it could hurt steering ability even more. Both ways should work and serve the same perpose. Guess it just depends on which problem you feel is easier to work around. Or which is more of a necessity. Jmo
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Post by biga00jr on Nov 8, 2011 21:58:11 GMT -5
^^^^agreed it limits steering i like to put mine fully extended on top of the frame imo.
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Post by fordpowerforever on Nov 9, 2011 0:35:05 GMT -5
ive built a lot and i dont use them at all....save them for other cars... hardnose it and it wont effect the steering or radiator
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