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Post by lightining351 on Aug 20, 2011 13:32:12 GMT -5
where the frame starts to bend down
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Post by The Nose on Aug 20, 2011 14:13:13 GMT -5
to pitch it down u get some chain a large bottle jack or air jack hook the chain to the frame where it won't move or slide and chain it to the end of the frame and jack up the frame with the chain connected to the jack but if i were u i wouldn't do it if you're unsure of it and if you don't know the benefits of it and u might not even need to do it to win
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Post by derbydriver666 on Aug 20, 2011 16:03:20 GMT -5
your best option would be to trade for a vic if its an 80s and newer show k... so i have a 79 caprice wagon... my rules here at my home town derby r strick, cant coil-to-leaf swap, cant add metal too or weld on the frame except for on the bumpers... and i cant reinforce the engine cradle... what would u guys think r my best options, i really wanna do well... main event pays 5000 next year
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Post by derbyz55 on Aug 20, 2011 16:10:41 GMT -5
lightining is it on the hump side of the body mount or the rear side? Was looking at it today but didnt get to it so will be tomorrow.
Thanks
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Post by -75x- on Aug 20, 2011 16:16:29 GMT -5
pm sent zerman
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Post by n8 on Aug 21, 2011 0:52:19 GMT -5
to pitch it down u get some chain a large bottle jack or air jack hook the chain to the frame where it won't move or slide and chain it to the end of the frame and jack up the frame with the chain connected to the jack but if i were u i wouldn't do it if you're unsure of it and if you don't know the benefits of it and u might not even need to do it to win What you seem to be describing is better for fords, which you would tilt at the crushbox. Gm's are different in they don't have a crushbox per se. The way people seem to do it on here is to tilt the frame level at the crossmember. I believe Tank has a picture or two of this done to his Cadillacs. I would think the easiest way to do it on a metric Gm would be to make a very small notch at the bottom of the frame at the crossmember, pull the front of the car down so that the frame in front of the firewall is level, and weld the notch. If rules allow, I would put a small plate on it as well or bolt the crossmember on either side of the notch. As far as the benefits, having the frame level to the ground would slow the cars ability to go up when hitting with the front, meaning you cn make more hits or take more hits to the front and still be able to continue.
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Post by Hillbilly Racing .30-30 on Aug 23, 2011 11:22:23 GMT -5
lightining is it on the hump side of the body mount or the rear side? Was looking at it today but didnt get to it so will be tomorrow. Thanks About half way between the hump and the rear bumper there is a place where the frame curves down a little to accomodate the rear "jump seat". Notch it there, and notch again appx halfway between that notch and the rear bumper, or cheat the second notch out a little closer to the bumper if you prefer. Somewhat depends what your pre-bending plans are. Oh yes, it still needs pre-bent.
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Post by tsmith318 on Aug 23, 2011 11:23:26 GMT -5
whats the best way to tell what year wagon I have? I know it's an Olds crusier wagon fan shroud says 350 motor? It is partially stripped. based on the woodgrain following the wheel wells id say this is a 1979 also since it says it has the 350 it cant be newer then 1980 and 1980 the wood grain didnt follow the wheel wells
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Post by derbyz55 on Aug 23, 2011 11:54:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Hillbilly
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Post by Hillbilly Racing .30-30 on Aug 23, 2011 18:39:44 GMT -5
No problem. This picture might help you out too. This is an 84 Chevy I am working on right now. Body will probably go back on tomorrow night.
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Post by derbyz55 on Aug 24, 2011 9:32:11 GMT -5
That pic is a big help, got it done last night. I fell a little better now after seeing that pic. Thanks again.
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Post by Nebraska State Rep on Aug 24, 2011 10:13:53 GMT -5
whats the best way to tell what year wagon I have? I know it's an Olds crusier wagon fan shroud says 350 motor? It is partially stripped. based on the woodgrain following the wheel wells id say this is a 1979 also since it says it has the 350 it cant be newer then 1980 and 1980 the wood grain didnt follow the wheel wells Thanks for the help. We will for sure find out when (hopefully saturday) I can get the dash out and get that vin data plate
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Post by sceard55x on Aug 24, 2011 10:43:32 GMT -5
Wow hillbilly that's a lot taken out of the frame I do its something like that just not as much I notch a 2x2 place where the shock ends a 2x1 half way between there and the humps and if I no its going to be a vary hard and dry track ill go to the bottom of the humps and either dimple or cut the top of the frame off I've never prebent them like this and never had one plow cuz it went down first one I ever built I notched twice was a hard Derby kinked the hump and lost both springs that's the only one ever had plow
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Post by Hillbilly Racing .30-30 on Aug 24, 2011 15:59:49 GMT -5
Its a fine line to walk. Not saying I am right or you are wrong by any means, lots of different theories on these will work with the right prep, driving, and luck. Never have had one completely plow, but I am sick of dealing with and fixing kinked humps. Have used winches to pull them out, plates to patch them up, etc. and I am just sick of fighting that battle lol.
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Post by lightining351 on Aug 30, 2011 0:07:54 GMT -5
pitched and sedagoned
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