Mt Gilead, OH Sept 7th @ 5:00 p.m......Other rules Added
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Morrow County Fair
Sept 7th, 2015 @ 5:00 p.m. Demolition Derby
Full Size Build Class Rules
1. Any hard top Foreign or Domestic automobile or station wagon is allowed with the following exceptions: No Chrysler Imperials before 1967. No convertibles, ambulances, hearses or limos. Cars with a wheel base of over 108” and a 6 or 8 cylinder engine.
PREPARATION OF CARS
1.Car number: It is mandatory that your car number be put on a roof sign on top of your car. Signs must be at least 12” tall and max 24” long. Sign must be welded or bolted to roof in at least 4 places. Number on door is no longer necessary.
2.Remove: all glass, head and tail lights, and clean inside of car and trunk before arrival at fairgrounds. This applies to metal parts, trash, screws, nails, nuts, bolts and glass. Broken glass inside doors is not permitted. Chrome molding strips, side-view mirrors, protruding outside door handles and emblems must be removed. All rear seats must be removed, including third seat and deck plates in station wagons.
FRAME & BUMPERS
1.Hitches and braces must be removed. No adding of plate, pinning, heat treating, or stuffing the frame in any way. Do not paint the frame.
No Frame welds can exceed a single pass 3/8” no weave and no build up welds permitted.
2.No frame creasing or reshaping to add strength in any way permitted. You can notch or crease rear frame to help in the rear of car roll not to strengthen the frame. Frame welding is limited to front and rear bumper areas top side of frame seams from the firewall forward may be welded with a single 3/8” bead of weld no weave welds. Excessive welds will be cut and removed. On 79 and older cars you may square off the front frame rail to hard nose the car but no shortening of the frame is permitted. All unused bolts must be removed from frame.
3.Any year bumper factory to a car is permitted. All bumper seams may be welded; only FRONT bumper may be loaded. Front and back bumper skins are required, No homemade bumpers with exception to DEC comparable replacement bumpers are permitted. All added metal to the FRONT bumper must be added to the inside only. No spacers permitted between the front bumper and the frame. Bumpers may be 8“ from top to bottom and 8“ from front to back. The bumper on the REAR of the car must be factory (DEC bumpers permitted) no adding of metal to bumper on rear of car will be permitted. Openings in bumper may be closed. You may use ¼" X 2” X 6” plate to weld from bumper to frame 2 per bumper mounting location. Bumper shocks must appear stock and be round pipe or factory shock no square tubing will be permitted for shocks and may not be further than 10" inside of frame and be no bigger than 2 inches in diameter. You may weld shocks to the frame you can cut factory frame seam open and weld to shock no creating extra seams on top or bottom of frame permitted. You cannot cut open top or side of frame to put shock in the frame. If replacing shock with pipe the pipe must remain straight and no contouring with the frame.
4.On the front frame they must be 25" from front of coil pockets on bottom of frame to end of the frame the bumper cannot slide over the frame. If a frame section needs to be replaced or repaired (rust) you must call first. If the frame has damage in the back 2 body bolts may be moved no more than 6" from factory location. Pre-ran cars if the frame is shortened in the rear and bumper replaced the bumper shocks cannot be located closer than 6" from hump plate.
5.Pre-run cars only; Maximum of 2 fix it plates allowed, 3” x 5” x ¼” max in size. There MUST be signs of damage, kinks, rips, tears to the frame or the fix it plate will be removed completely. No painting of the frame.
6.Angles for cross member supports can be 3”x3” x 5" long max. Cross member must mount to frame only and in factory location.
7.Body bolts and washers may be changed (1" dia. Bolt max, 3" washer max.) Must start and stop in stock location 8. Bumper cannot be lower than 14" or higher than 24" from bottom of bumper. Frame may not be lower than 14".
9.For coil sprung cars you may use a hump plate they may be ¼" X 6" X 22" centered in the hump they will be measured from the top center of the hump and must start no lower than half way down on the frame. Hump plate must be at least 2" from rear end. On 80s style GM's you may use a ¼ " X 6" X 30" hump plate to be measured the same way. Leaf spring cars you may use a ¼" X 6" X 11" hump plate to be measured the same way. These hump plates may contour the frame or run straight across hump. Hump plate must remain flat plate no bending over the frame.
10.You may re-clip frames on pre-ran cars with a single butt weld and no additional metal added. The frame must be the same make and model. IE: Ford to Ford, GM to GM. Fords cannot clip 02 and older with any 03 and newer frame no exceptions or vice versa.
11 You may cut factory seams at the box or firewall frame seams and re-weld to tilt the front. No metal may be added. All factory holes in frame must remain open no welding these holes shut permitted.
12. On 2003 and newer Fords you may use an 80 and newer ford or GM car steel cradles they must be put in like there factory equivalents and only using the factory brackets no other metal may be added. A-arm brackets must be 98 and newer Ford brackets only. They must be in factory location and cannot be moved forward. You may use a 3" spacer from the bottom of the frame to lower A-arm where the spring seats. No altering the frame in any manner other than attaching factory brackets with a single bead of weld. You cannot add any type of spring pockets to frame. All factory holes in front of A-arms must be open. Nothing may be welded on top of frame over the holes in front of frame. On 2003 and newer Fords you cannot shorten the front of the frames. A-arms must be 7 ½” behind the rear factory holes in frame in the front to the front edge of A-arms (The factory cruse point) A-arms must be from passenger car no truck or van A-arms permitted.
BODY / CAGE
1.Two 8" X 8" inspection holes must be put in all deck lids one on each side of deck lid within 2" of trunk strapping in center of trunk. Trunk lids must be factory for make and model of car IE: GM to GM ford to ford no pre 1980 deck lids permitted on 80 and newer cars.
2.You may weld, wire, or bolt doors, trunk lids, and or tailgates. If you wire you may use 8 double strands of #9 wire and all may go around bumper or frame. Strapping used for welding may not be stair stepped or layered. Strapping may be ¼” x 3" flat stock maximum. Tops of door skins may be rolled and welded using same ¼” X 3” flat stock. Trunk lids may have two 1" pieces of all thread that must extend to the frame. T from the floor pan to the trunk lid and allowed to be welded no more than ½ way down the side of frame and must be straight up and down. All thread must extend frame to trunk lid. Wagons these may go from the floor pan to rear roof pillars not the roof. You may add (4) 3/8” bolts per wheel well these bolts can be in wheel well only.
3.No body seam welding will be permitted. Doors can be welded on outside of body only. On pre-ran cars the doors may be repaired back to stock. Rust repair is limited to floor boards and roofs only.
4.You may have a window bar or wire in windshield and rear window if using metal it can be no thicker than 3/8" and no wider than 3". You may use 2 x 2 pipe and not solid. These may not touch the rollover bar. They can be welded to roof no more than 6" from the window area. Welded to deck lid no more than 6"at the rear window area Metal used for this may not exceed 6" in length on roof or deck lid. You can have a bar from the dash bar to the roll over bar but must be 5” from the fire wall.
5.You may have 6 bolts on the hood to keep it secure; bolts may be 1" in dia. The front 2 may go all the way through core support You may use a ¼” X 2” x 2” spacer through the core support this may be welded to top of frame and top and bottom of core support only these may not be lower than top of frame. You may also use a 4" x 4" x ¼ plate to weld to top side of frame on the front two body mounts these can weld no farther than 2" on the frame behind the body mount bolts. 1" bolts max.
6.Hoods must be open for inspection. (12" x 12" hole over carburetor) Cars may not be smashed flat If cars are tucked the rear quarter panels on both sides of cars must be 6" higher than the top of the bumper If speaker deck is removed deck lid can attach to package tray they must remain within 2“ of rear of package tray ( behind body bolts on new style fords).
7.Body mounts must remain in place or a 1" gap between body and frame with a stack of washers or spacer of some kind may be used nothing bigger than 3" x 3" permitted NO EXCEPTIONS cars without a space will not be permitted to run. 1” body bolts max. must start and stop in factory location. All body mounts must be in stock location.
8.You can add a piece of angle (4" x 4" x ¼"max.) to top of the core support but can be no longer than 32" no other metal permitted on core support. No other metal permitted to be welded to core support.
9.You may have a cage surrounding the drivers compartment with a roll over bar. Bars 6" diameter max must be sheet metal to sheet metal only. The dash bar must be 5" from all sheet metal. The bar behind the seat can sit no further back than where the kick panel meets the bench seat and must be at least 5" off the floor measured from the highest part of the floor/driveshaft tunnel. No cage components can be farther back than where the kick panel meets the bench seat. Roll over bar and rear down legs are cage components. No center bar in cages. 2 down legs to the frame from the rear bar down to frame and must run straight down no angling. You may use a floating gas tank protector that comes off the back bar but it cannot be wider than 24". The gas tank protector/holder may go all the way back to the sheet metal. Can be welded or bolted to rear sheet metal or package tray with 2 - ½ " X 4“ bolts or 2 -- 3" welds to the sheet metal.
ENGINE / TRANSMISSION
1. Engines may be chained in with 1 chain per side with standard 3/8" chain max. Chains no longer than 16" and no more than 2 chain links may be welded to the engine cradle. No chains permitted to be welded to the frame. Motor of choice is permitted. Distributor protectors are allowed, nothing that attaches to engine any wider than the stacks used for strengthening the car. IE: Dist Protector, engine cradles, ect. 2. Transmissions must be of passenger car origin, transmission coolers may be used, but they must be secured in such a way to prevent injury. Metal or braided lines must be used. No fuel or low-pressure lines may be used. Coolers must be secured in a container in the passenger compartment of the car.
3.Transmission protectors are allowed. They may not attach or brace to the cross member, frame, or any part of the cage components Trans blanket is recommended. OEM transmission cross member or 2” x 2” x ¼” tube . Cross member must be mounted with at least a 2” space from all transmission protector components including shifter plate. Skid plates are allowed. They may be one piece from engine to transmission. They may not extend forward past oil pan or rearward past the transmission pan. Don’t connect to transmission cross member. There must be 2” space. No bolting or welding the skid plate to the frame.
4.No water cooler tanks or overflow bottles permitted. Must use factory OEM style radiators.
SUSPENSION
1. You may modify tie rods. Valve stem protectors are permitted. A-arms must remain in stock configuration. Any rubber tire permitted. Rear trailing arms may be Home made No bigger than 2 x 2 square tubing or pipe and must mount to a package tray like factory. Doubling of tires permitted. Bead locks are permitted no bigger than 21” diameter.
2.Upper A arms may be welded down by folding down the A-arm and welding to the frame with no extra metal added or you may use a ¼” x 2” x 2” strap on the front and back side of upper A-arm and plug weld the center of the A-arm Do not weld the A-arm to the factory mounting brackets. Lower A-arms may not be welded. You can change out the new style A-arms for old style.
3.Coil springs in rear may be welded wired or chained to rear end. No coil to leaf conversions allowed.
4.You may use rear end of choice. Rear end protectors may be used but may not be used to strengthen car in any way and must be on back of rear end. Leaf spring cars may replace broken springs with factory ¼ " leaf springs only. No more than 7 springs allowed and must have a 2" stagger and mounted in factory location
5.Idler arm must be bolted factory to frame no bolts will be permitted all the way through the frame. Sway bar may be welded to bottom of frame in the factory location you may use a 1 ½ " X 4” bracket or a 2" square tubing or pipe to weld to sway bar to attach to frame.
6.Upper and lower A Arms must be factory passenger car type no homemade ones will be permitted.
7.Any Watts style rear suspension links not being utilized must be removed.
8.Rear shocks may be replaced with 1" max all thread. It can be attached to rear-end and travel through package tray. Bumper height requirements must still be met. All-thread cannot be welded or mounted to side frame rails.
***** IF YOU HAMMER / SHAPE / WELD ON FRAME IN ANY MANNER NOT COVERED IN THE RULES YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RUN THERE IS NO FIXING THIS****
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONTACT AN OFFICIAL - OFFICIALS HAVE THE FINAL DECISION ON ALL RULES!
If it does not say it within the rules it does not mean you are allowed to do it. If in doubt, call first. For rules questions please contact
Bryan Mullins ( 419-631-1233 / Bryan_55m@yahoo.com ) or Earl Kidwell ( 419-618-7339 / rookflex@hotmail.com )
Sept 7th, 2015 @ 5:00 p.m. Demolition Derby
Full Size Build Class Rules
1. Any hard top Foreign or Domestic automobile or station wagon is allowed with the following exceptions: No Chrysler Imperials before 1967. No convertibles, ambulances, hearses or limos. Cars with a wheel base of over 108” and a 6 or 8 cylinder engine.
PREPARATION OF CARS
1.Car number: It is mandatory that your car number be put on a roof sign on top of your car. Signs must be at least 12” tall and max 24” long. Sign must be welded or bolted to roof in at least 4 places. Number on door is no longer necessary.
2.Remove: all glass, head and tail lights, and clean inside of car and trunk before arrival at fairgrounds. This applies to metal parts, trash, screws, nails, nuts, bolts and glass. Broken glass inside doors is not permitted. Chrome molding strips, side-view mirrors, protruding outside door handles and emblems must be removed. All rear seats must be removed, including third seat and deck plates in station wagons.
FRAME & BUMPERS
1.Hitches and braces must be removed. No adding of plate, pinning, heat treating, or stuffing the frame in any way. Do not paint the frame.
No Frame welds can exceed a single pass 3/8” no weave and no build up welds permitted.
2.No frame creasing or reshaping to add strength in any way permitted. You can notch or crease rear frame to help in the rear of car roll not to strengthen the frame. Frame welding is limited to front and rear bumper areas top side of frame seams from the firewall forward may be welded with a single 3/8” bead of weld no weave welds. Excessive welds will be cut and removed. On 79 and older cars you may square off the front frame rail to hard nose the car but no shortening of the frame is permitted. All unused bolts must be removed from frame.
3.Any year bumper factory to a car is permitted. All bumper seams may be welded; only FRONT bumper may be loaded. Front and back bumper skins are required, No homemade bumpers with exception to DEC comparable replacement bumpers are permitted. All added metal to the FRONT bumper must be added to the inside only. No spacers permitted between the front bumper and the frame. Bumpers may be 8“ from top to bottom and 8“ from front to back. The bumper on the REAR of the car must be factory (DEC bumpers permitted) no adding of metal to bumper on rear of car will be permitted. Openings in bumper may be closed. You may use ¼" X 2” X 6” plate to weld from bumper to frame 2 per bumper mounting location. Bumper shocks must appear stock and be round pipe or factory shock no square tubing will be permitted for shocks and may not be further than 10" inside of frame and be no bigger than 2 inches in diameter. You may weld shocks to the frame you can cut factory frame seam open and weld to shock no creating extra seams on top or bottom of frame permitted. You cannot cut open top or side of frame to put shock in the frame. If replacing shock with pipe the pipe must remain straight and no contouring with the frame.
4.On the front frame they must be 25" from front of coil pockets on bottom of frame to end of the frame the bumper cannot slide over the frame. If a frame section needs to be replaced or repaired (rust) you must call first. If the frame has damage in the back 2 body bolts may be moved no more than 6" from factory location. Pre-ran cars if the frame is shortened in the rear and bumper replaced the bumper shocks cannot be located closer than 6" from hump plate.
5.Pre-run cars only; Maximum of 2 fix it plates allowed, 3” x 5” x ¼” max in size. There MUST be signs of damage, kinks, rips, tears to the frame or the fix it plate will be removed completely. No painting of the frame.
6.Angles for cross member supports can be 3”x3” x 5" long max. Cross member must mount to frame only and in factory location.
7.Body bolts and washers may be changed (1" dia. Bolt max, 3" washer max.) Must start and stop in stock location 8. Bumper cannot be lower than 14" or higher than 24" from bottom of bumper. Frame may not be lower than 14".
9.For coil sprung cars you may use a hump plate they may be ¼" X 6" X 22" centered in the hump they will be measured from the top center of the hump and must start no lower than half way down on the frame. Hump plate must be at least 2" from rear end. On 80s style GM's you may use a ¼ " X 6" X 30" hump plate to be measured the same way. Leaf spring cars you may use a ¼" X 6" X 11" hump plate to be measured the same way. These hump plates may contour the frame or run straight across hump. Hump plate must remain flat plate no bending over the frame.
10.You may re-clip frames on pre-ran cars with a single butt weld and no additional metal added. The frame must be the same make and model. IE: Ford to Ford, GM to GM. Fords cannot clip 02 and older with any 03 and newer frame no exceptions or vice versa.
11 You may cut factory seams at the box or firewall frame seams and re-weld to tilt the front. No metal may be added. All factory holes in frame must remain open no welding these holes shut permitted.
12. On 2003 and newer Fords you may use an 80 and newer ford or GM car steel cradles they must be put in like there factory equivalents and only using the factory brackets no other metal may be added. A-arm brackets must be 98 and newer Ford brackets only. They must be in factory location and cannot be moved forward. You may use a 3" spacer from the bottom of the frame to lower A-arm where the spring seats. No altering the frame in any manner other than attaching factory brackets with a single bead of weld. You cannot add any type of spring pockets to frame. All factory holes in front of A-arms must be open. Nothing may be welded on top of frame over the holes in front of frame. On 2003 and newer Fords you cannot shorten the front of the frames. A-arms must be 7 ½” behind the rear factory holes in frame in the front to the front edge of A-arms (The factory cruse point) A-arms must be from passenger car no truck or van A-arms permitted.
BODY / CAGE
1.Two 8" X 8" inspection holes must be put in all deck lids one on each side of deck lid within 2" of trunk strapping in center of trunk. Trunk lids must be factory for make and model of car IE: GM to GM ford to ford no pre 1980 deck lids permitted on 80 and newer cars.
2.You may weld, wire, or bolt doors, trunk lids, and or tailgates. If you wire you may use 8 double strands of #9 wire and all may go around bumper or frame. Strapping used for welding may not be stair stepped or layered. Strapping may be ¼” x 3" flat stock maximum. Tops of door skins may be rolled and welded using same ¼” X 3” flat stock. Trunk lids may have two 1" pieces of all thread that must extend to the frame. T from the floor pan to the trunk lid and allowed to be welded no more than ½ way down the side of frame and must be straight up and down. All thread must extend frame to trunk lid. Wagons these may go from the floor pan to rear roof pillars not the roof. You may add (4) 3/8” bolts per wheel well these bolts can be in wheel well only.
3.No body seam welding will be permitted. Doors can be welded on outside of body only. On pre-ran cars the doors may be repaired back to stock. Rust repair is limited to floor boards and roofs only.
4.You may have a window bar or wire in windshield and rear window if using metal it can be no thicker than 3/8" and no wider than 3". You may use 2 x 2 pipe and not solid. These may not touch the rollover bar. They can be welded to roof no more than 6" from the window area. Welded to deck lid no more than 6"at the rear window area Metal used for this may not exceed 6" in length on roof or deck lid. You can have a bar from the dash bar to the roll over bar but must be 5” from the fire wall.
5.You may have 6 bolts on the hood to keep it secure; bolts may be 1" in dia. The front 2 may go all the way through core support You may use a ¼” X 2” x 2” spacer through the core support this may be welded to top of frame and top and bottom of core support only these may not be lower than top of frame. You may also use a 4" x 4" x ¼ plate to weld to top side of frame on the front two body mounts these can weld no farther than 2" on the frame behind the body mount bolts. 1" bolts max.
6.Hoods must be open for inspection. (12" x 12" hole over carburetor) Cars may not be smashed flat If cars are tucked the rear quarter panels on both sides of cars must be 6" higher than the top of the bumper If speaker deck is removed deck lid can attach to package tray they must remain within 2“ of rear of package tray ( behind body bolts on new style fords).
7.Body mounts must remain in place or a 1" gap between body and frame with a stack of washers or spacer of some kind may be used nothing bigger than 3" x 3" permitted NO EXCEPTIONS cars without a space will not be permitted to run. 1” body bolts max. must start and stop in factory location. All body mounts must be in stock location.
8.You can add a piece of angle (4" x 4" x ¼"max.) to top of the core support but can be no longer than 32" no other metal permitted on core support. No other metal permitted to be welded to core support.
9.You may have a cage surrounding the drivers compartment with a roll over bar. Bars 6" diameter max must be sheet metal to sheet metal only. The dash bar must be 5" from all sheet metal. The bar behind the seat can sit no further back than where the kick panel meets the bench seat and must be at least 5" off the floor measured from the highest part of the floor/driveshaft tunnel. No cage components can be farther back than where the kick panel meets the bench seat. Roll over bar and rear down legs are cage components. No center bar in cages. 2 down legs to the frame from the rear bar down to frame and must run straight down no angling. You may use a floating gas tank protector that comes off the back bar but it cannot be wider than 24". The gas tank protector/holder may go all the way back to the sheet metal. Can be welded or bolted to rear sheet metal or package tray with 2 - ½ " X 4“ bolts or 2 -- 3" welds to the sheet metal.
ENGINE / TRANSMISSION
1. Engines may be chained in with 1 chain per side with standard 3/8" chain max. Chains no longer than 16" and no more than 2 chain links may be welded to the engine cradle. No chains permitted to be welded to the frame. Motor of choice is permitted. Distributor protectors are allowed, nothing that attaches to engine any wider than the stacks used for strengthening the car. IE: Dist Protector, engine cradles, ect. 2. Transmissions must be of passenger car origin, transmission coolers may be used, but they must be secured in such a way to prevent injury. Metal or braided lines must be used. No fuel or low-pressure lines may be used. Coolers must be secured in a container in the passenger compartment of the car.
3.Transmission protectors are allowed. They may not attach or brace to the cross member, frame, or any part of the cage components Trans blanket is recommended. OEM transmission cross member or 2” x 2” x ¼” tube . Cross member must be mounted with at least a 2” space from all transmission protector components including shifter plate. Skid plates are allowed. They may be one piece from engine to transmission. They may not extend forward past oil pan or rearward past the transmission pan. Don’t connect to transmission cross member. There must be 2” space. No bolting or welding the skid plate to the frame.
4.No water cooler tanks or overflow bottles permitted. Must use factory OEM style radiators.
SUSPENSION
1. You may modify tie rods. Valve stem protectors are permitted. A-arms must remain in stock configuration. Any rubber tire permitted. Rear trailing arms may be Home made No bigger than 2 x 2 square tubing or pipe and must mount to a package tray like factory. Doubling of tires permitted. Bead locks are permitted no bigger than 21” diameter.
2.Upper A arms may be welded down by folding down the A-arm and welding to the frame with no extra metal added or you may use a ¼” x 2” x 2” strap on the front and back side of upper A-arm and plug weld the center of the A-arm Do not weld the A-arm to the factory mounting brackets. Lower A-arms may not be welded. You can change out the new style A-arms for old style.
3.Coil springs in rear may be welded wired or chained to rear end. No coil to leaf conversions allowed.
4.You may use rear end of choice. Rear end protectors may be used but may not be used to strengthen car in any way and must be on back of rear end. Leaf spring cars may replace broken springs with factory ¼ " leaf springs only. No more than 7 springs allowed and must have a 2" stagger and mounted in factory location
5.Idler arm must be bolted factory to frame no bolts will be permitted all the way through the frame. Sway bar may be welded to bottom of frame in the factory location you may use a 1 ½ " X 4” bracket or a 2" square tubing or pipe to weld to sway bar to attach to frame.
6.Upper and lower A Arms must be factory passenger car type no homemade ones will be permitted.
7.Any Watts style rear suspension links not being utilized must be removed.
8.Rear shocks may be replaced with 1" max all thread. It can be attached to rear-end and travel through package tray. Bumper height requirements must still be met. All-thread cannot be welded or mounted to side frame rails.
***** IF YOU HAMMER / SHAPE / WELD ON FRAME IN ANY MANNER NOT COVERED IN THE RULES YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RUN THERE IS NO FIXING THIS****
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONTACT AN OFFICIAL - OFFICIALS HAVE THE FINAL DECISION ON ALL RULES!
If it does not say it within the rules it does not mean you are allowed to do it. If in doubt, call first. For rules questions please contact
Bryan Mullins ( 419-631-1233 / Bryan_55m@yahoo.com ) or Earl Kidwell ( 419-618-7339 / rookflex@hotmail.com )