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Post by turbovette on Jan 3, 2015 18:54:20 GMT -5
NEVERMIND DO NOT DELETE!!! I HAVE EDITED THE RULES:)
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Post by turbovette on Jan 3, 2015 18:58:12 GMT -5
Also, in response to the "train wreck" comment: South Bend Motor Speedway has gotten a very bad reputation in the past few years because of the crew they had officiating and some of the idiot locals. The reason for all of the drama usually stems from 4 or 5 people and it's always the same people. The big drama on the Facebook thread is because of the original rules for no carb swaps, no bumper swaps, and no cage. There was one guy who was completely loving that set of rules, but there were 50 other guys who wanted carb swaps, bumper swaps, and cages. So all of the arguing has pretty much been one guy against 50, but the BRAND NEW head official (give the man a chance to make a difference) and the track owner listened to the majority so as not to have anymore 5-10 car shows.
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Post by midnightthunder on Jan 9, 2015 22:00:16 GMT -5
Yeah, and some of those comments are from people who either will not be there anyway and/or want to see it fail, give us a chance to prove that the past is the past and we are moving on to better things, come on out, wreck some cars and maybe go home with some major cash
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Post by pasterofmuppets on Jan 9, 2015 22:57:05 GMT -5
There are several of us that want to run the show, but the lack of a gaurenteed purse makes that entey fee and an 8 hour drive a little more bothersome. Not speaking negatively, have no idea about any past events at that local. Just voicing concern on drivers side of the fence.
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Post by hdt17h on Jan 9, 2015 23:10:13 GMT -5
Dont sound like a bad derby but thinking if i run it ill wait till the aug one so u can hear and read how the april one went before making the 7 hour haul. When will registration open for the aug show just out of curiosity?
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Post by compactking47 on Jan 14, 2015 13:20:14 GMT -5
On minis what about engine cradles or motor protectors....braced rearends? .....can bumpers b scooted back .....
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Post by midnightthunder on Jan 24, 2015 21:47:16 GMT -5
No, no, no, yes
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Post by midnightthunder on Jan 24, 2015 21:58:06 GMT -5
I agree about the guaranteed purse, but it's hard for him to put the money up not knowing if it will fill up. The last derby there had only 5 full size, he wanted a change, the old rules obviously weren't bringing in the cars plus only paid $1k to win, so we changed everything up for this year, made cars easier to build and set it up so the payout can be bigger, he just can't put it as guaranteed because of the past, we are trying to bring it back to what it used to be, make it easier for new people to get into the sport and cheaper to compete. So, the more entries come in the more it pays out, think of it that way, spread the word, let's make this huge!!! From now until the end of February every entry will get 1 free pit pass, get those entries in
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Post by midnightthunder on Feb 11, 2015 21:04:57 GMT -5
Entry deadline has been moved up to March 1st Get those entries in
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Post by eric19112 on Feb 12, 2015 11:30:31 GMT -5
A lot of people are concerned because it went from one group of local guys running it, to another. If it would go out to an outside group who knows no one, has no bias, and could care less about who wins, runs, or anything else, this show could be big. Nothing against the new inspection crew, just rumblings that I've heard about things. Good luck, and I hope the show is huge. Always like the south bend demo's and hope it can come back to what it was. But the new crew has a lot of things to prove and fix before that can happen.
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Post by eric19112 on Feb 12, 2015 18:36:31 GMT -5
Problem big drivers have is if promoter is not willing to gamble and put up some purse up front why would drivers put up time and money on builds. 100% payout on car count is risky for both parties. From a friend on this topic, money brings cars, bottom line.
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Post by midnightthunder on Feb 12, 2015 22:08:27 GMT -5
I see what you are saying about us being local, but that shouldn't be an issue with us only knowing 1 of the entered drivers, and don't really know him, just know who he is, lol, hopefully we can prove that we will be fair and the August one can be huge. On the payout issue, the promoter cant promise big money if the cars don't show, it goes both ways and we understand that, we don't have the reputation that mayhem has where they can promise the money because they know it will fill up. Prove that the cars will show and the guaranteed money will be there, drivers have to step up too. Thanks for your input.
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Post by joker14 on Feb 12, 2015 22:49:47 GMT -5
Midnight you keep preaching the need to see the cars before they can commit to big money. There is no money to commit with. It's 100% payback that means they have 0 risk all reward. That's great for them. If they get 500 cars they still aren't paying a dime from their pocket so we really need to stop with that because it's false. They want like everyone else wants. 0 risk all reward and cut the bs with reputation statements. Ask tory what turnout they would have if he paid 100% back. Reputation doesn't mean shit when nothing is on the line. With risk comes reward, more risk more reward. For drivers we won't bank on all risk and guaranteed nothing. We would be retarded if we did. Hence nobody showing up to 100% shows since the 90s. Get with the times. You want a good stock derby..... get timing right, guarantee 2000 to win, I know that track can afford that, reputable inspectors, good rules and if 100 cars show then you can up it. If not you will get 30 cars, have your fun, make your money. Curious to know who whispered this idea in their ear...
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Post by eric19112 on Feb 13, 2015 7:38:33 GMT -5
I'm curious as to how many pre entries they have....
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Post by eric19112 on Feb 13, 2015 19:14:32 GMT -5
Not to try to stir the pot, but I've heard you're married to a Newgent, so that pretty throws out knowing only one person.
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