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Post by infinityshade on Mar 19, 2016 21:49:01 GMT -5
Hold the presses guys. You might want to check out this 84 camaro i've been hanging onto. I've been waiting for a year for someone else to post info about the 3.0l build to be sure i could do it. I'm getting ready to put a t5 in then a 4.11 rear. Once i have a second car id like to do the stroker build. This is the 151 poniac block you're all talking about correct? Attachments:
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Post by Wrekt'EmRacing on May 3, 2016 1:26:53 GMT -5
What year monza flywheel and starter? I bought an older s10 flywheel for a 2.5l and the crank pattern was correct but the torque converter pattern is too small once again. My motor is out of a 1982 jeep cj7. You are looking for the 1983 & older 2.5L I4. The Pontiac 151/ true Iron Duke was used by AMC/Jeep from 1979 through 1983 as the base option in the RWD Spirit and Concord, the 4WD Eagle models, economy versions of Jeep CJs, and in postal Jeeps. This early version used a Chevrolet small block V8 bell housing bolt pattern.
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Post by Wrekt'EmRacing on May 3, 2016 1:37:02 GMT -5
Hold the presses guys. You might want to check out this 84 camaro i've been hanging onto. I've been waiting for a year for someone else to post info about the 3.0l build to be sure i could do it. I'm getting ready to put a t5 in then a 4.11 rear. Once i have a second car id like to do the stroker build. This is the 151 poniac block you're all talking about correct? Yours is NOT an Iron Duke, it is a Tech IV generation. The 1984 and later model GM 151s used the corporate GM four-cylinder metric/small V6(60degree) bellhousing bolt pattern. The Tech IV was a higher compression engine than the older Dukes(pre-1984) at 9.0:1 compared to 8.2:1.
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Post by derbydriver44 on May 9, 2016 18:11:07 GMT -5
Hold the presses guys. You might want to check out this 84 camaro i've been hanging onto. I've been waiting for a year for someone else to post info about the 3.0l build to be sure i could do it. I'm getting ready to put a t5 in then a 4.11 rear. Once i have a second car id like to do the stroker build. This is the 151 poniac block you're all talking about correct? Yours is NOT an Iron Duke, it is a Tech IV generation. The 1984 and later model GM 151s used the corporate GM four-cylinder metric/small V6(60degree) bellhousing bolt pattern. The Tech IV was a higher compression engine than the older Dukes(pre-1984) at 9.0:1 compared to 8.2:1. They are still Iron Dukes, because they still have an iron block. The difference between the older and newer is the older ones are carbed, and have around 85HP. The TBI ones that are newer have around 110 HP. The 82-83 Iron Duke I've got is a carbed one, and has the same bell housing bolt pattern is the same as the other 2 90s Iron Duke I have out of a couple of Luminas.
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Post by Wrekt'EmRacing on May 13, 2016 3:39:36 GMT -5
They are still Iron Dukes, because they still have an iron block. The difference between the older and newer is the older ones are carbed, and have around 85HP. The TBI ones that are newer have around 110 HP. The 82-83 Iron Duke I've got is a carbed one, and has the same bell housing bolt pattern is the same as the other 2 90s Iron Duke I have out of a couple of Luminas.[/quote] I won't argue that you have a carbed 2.5, however i would suggest you check the date stamp on your engine. Though the bellhousing was officialy changed in 1984, many mid-year 1983 dukes were the metric 60* V6 pattern and not the original 90* block pattern. If your trans pan is factory original and says "METRIC" on the face you have a Tech IV gen block with the carb swap; but definately check your block date stamp. TBI was introduced in 1982 to the duke, with issues. The bolt pattern for the throttle body was the same as the 2barrel carb and was commonly (and easily) swapped for reliability issues; or many times for the simple fact the vehicle receiving a replcement engine didn't have an ECU to control the TBI system.
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Post by derbydriver44 on May 17, 2016 21:03:21 GMT -5
They are still Iron Dukes, because they still have an iron block. The difference between the older and newer is the older ones are carbed, and have around 85HP. The TBI ones that are newer have around 110 HP. The 82-83 Iron Duke I've got is a carbed one, and has the same bell housing bolt pattern is the same as the other 2 90s Iron Duke I have out of a couple of Luminas. I won't argue that you have a carbed 2.5, however i would suggest you check the date stamp on your engine. Though the bellhousing was officialy changed in 1984, many mid-year 1983 dukes were the metric 60* V6 pattern and not the original 90* block pattern. If your trans pan is factory original and says "METRIC" on the face you have a Tech IV gen block with the carb swap; but definately check your block date stamp. TBI was introduced in 1982 to the duke, with issues. The bolt pattern for the throttle body was the same as the 2barrel carb and was commonly (and easily) swapped for reliability issues; or many times for the simple fact the vehicle receiving a replcement engine didn't have an ECU to control the TBI system.[/quote] Maybe it is an 81...I forget. The motor was pulled from a Citation last fall, tranny was bad so i left that in the car. You seem to know your shit with the Dukes, I'm trying to learn more and more every day. Care to chat about them on Facebook?
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Post by kkahler on Jun 13, 2016 16:47:05 GMT -5
I'm building a 88 celebrity wagon with a 2.5 what is the best way to run the engine carb or leave in fi also has anyone hot wired coil packs on these. This is the first 2.5 I've ran so any help would be awsome
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Post by kkahler on Jun 14, 2016 9:05:05 GMT -5
Also does anyone have a ecm wiring diagram I'm thinking about leaving fuel injection but want to remove all unused wires
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Post by derbydriver44 on Jun 15, 2016 22:23:45 GMT -5
Also does anyone have a ecm wiring diagram I'm thinking about leaving fuel injection but want to remove all unused wires Best way to do it is to just follow the wires to where they go and cut accordingly... I have mine running off of 10-12 wires. You can delete almost everything in the fuse box that was on the passenger side of the engine bay. anything you need to keep you can also just twist together.
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Post by cjt2139 on Jun 26, 2016 21:33:51 GMT -5
What year monza flywheel and starter? I bought an older s10 flywheel for a 2.5l and the crank pattern was correct but the torque converter pattern is too small once again. My motor is out of a 1982 jeep cj7. You are looking for the 1983 & older 2.5L I4. The Pontiac 151/ true Iron Duke was used by AMC/Jeep from 1979 through 1983 as the base option in the RWD Spirit and Concord, the 4WD Eagle models, economy versions of Jeep CJs, and in postal Jeeps. This early version used a Chevrolet small block V8 bell housing bolt pattern. i have a turbo 350 tranny and that'll bolt right to the motor. My issue ive been having for 2 years now is finding a flywheel and torque converter combo that will bolt together. I get a flywheel that will bolt to the crank pattern of the motor but not the torque converter. Then i got a flywheel that will bolt to the torque converter but not the crank. Its jus been givin me hell.
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Post by Wrekt'EmRacing on Jul 2, 2016 22:23:05 GMT -5
cjt2139,
Take the flywheel that will bolt to your crank to a machine shop, with the torque converter for your TH350 and have them put new threaded bosses for the TC pattern.
This shouldn't cost too much and in my experience is around $80. It's really dependant on your area and labor costs at the machine shop.
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Post by kkahler on Jul 5, 2016 21:12:45 GMT -5
I'm planning on running my TBI 88 celebrity 2.5 I'd like a push button setup does anyone no wiring diagram for a push button/switch setup I'm not a wire guy
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Post by olsen15 on Jul 6, 2016 17:16:47 GMT -5
I'm planning on running my TBI 88 celebrity 2.5 I'd like a push button setup does anyone no wiring diagram for a push button/switch setup I'm not a wire guy Small wire of the solenoid on the starter to one side of the push button and the other to the battery
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Post by cjt2139 on Jul 11, 2016 21:13:05 GMT -5
cjt2139, Take the flywheel that will bolt to your crank to a machine shop, with the torque converter for your TH350 and have them put new threaded bosses for the TC pattern. This shouldn't cost too much and in my experience is around $80. It's really dependant on your area and labor costs at the machine shop. Alright. Thanks. I thought of somehing like that but i was gonna have a adapter plate made. But now my problem is that the starter isn't hitting the flywheel. Its literally jus the length of the teeth away. The teeth jus bareley miss eachother. If it aint one thing its another
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Post by demo69j on Aug 2, 2016 15:25:30 GMT -5
I have an early 90s 4 tech 2.5 and it has coil packs can I put a distributor in it and if so how do I go about it
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