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Post by Venom05jr on Aug 30, 2011 16:26:59 GMT -5
Nice sedagoned wagon, looks like it did good. Im putting up pictures of my leafed wagon here pretty soon. I managed to BREAK the frame behind the leafs . It's awesome actually, lmao.
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Post by lightining351 on Aug 31, 2011 2:40:10 GMT -5
got 5th. lost the bottom rad hose at the start. rearend was supper hard. started out like that and did not move.
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Post by jonesmotorsports on Aug 31, 2011 12:11:14 GMT -5
What you seem to be describing is better for fords, which you would tilt at the crushbox. Gm's are different in they don't have a crushbox per se. The way people seem to do it on here is to tilt the frame level at the crossmember. I believe Tank has a picture or two of this done to his Cadillacs. I would think the easiest way to do it on a metric Gm would be to make a very small notch at the bottom of the frame at the crossmember, pull the front of the car down so that the frame in front of the firewall is level, and weld the notch. If rules allow, I would put a small plate on it as well or bolt the crossmember on either side of the notch. As far as the benefits, having the frame level to the ground would slow the cars ability to go up when hitting with the front, meaning you cn make more hits or take more hits to the front and still be able to continue. so for tilting these chevys u should notch it all the way back at the trans crossmember. Do u think it would work if u notched it right behind the firewall body bolt. like say 2-3 inches back from it. Also what is everyone putting in the gap for the body to the frame if its notched back further. thanks any info would be great. ill tell ya in a month
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Post by derby2racer on Aug 31, 2011 20:55:15 GMT -5
I have a 77' olds wagon. does anyone know where my strong and weak points are on this car? i was also wondering if i will need to crease the top toward the back or notch the frame? are there any parts of the car i need to build specifically a certain way? Attachments:
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Post by redneckcustoms72 on Sept 4, 2011 13:09:38 GMT -5
You need to notch the frame. And prebend. I notched mine twice and mabye should have done one where the frame slopes down. My first notches went up but they went down at the second noch closer to the humps. Smash rear quarters down where u notch. Wire or chain the humps. Remove rear bumper cut tailgate so you can see.or just remove it. Oh yea and pray lol. Good luck
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Post by derby2racer on Sept 6, 2011 16:26:06 GMT -5
haha, well thanks. Do you know where my strong and weak points are on this car also?
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Post by learn72x on Sept 6, 2011 19:58:40 GMT -5
got an 81 malibu wagon. its small but got it for free so cant complain. any tips or tricks on how to make it compete with the tanks?
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Post by Hillbilly Racing .30-30 on Sept 6, 2011 23:00:12 GMT -5
haha, well thanks. Do you know where my strong and weak points are on this car also? Weak point, ass-end as I and everyone has pointed out. Notch, tuck, pre-bend, pray. Strong point is the nose and it aint perfect by any stretch. Hardnose it, suck the body down tight, and go drive. Make sure it runs good, and the drivetrain is solid first, and drive it until it just plain will not move anymore. If you do that, you did what you can do, and make sure to have fun.
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Post by derby2racer on Sept 6, 2011 23:49:49 GMT -5
I know what notching and pre-bending is. But what do you mean when you say to "tuck" it, and when you say to hardnose it? Sorry, im a little new and havent done this before, but I have been around derbies quite a bit. thanks for the help.
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Post by Crownvic891 on Sept 7, 2011 0:07:47 GMT -5
I know what notching and pre-bending is. But what do you mean when you say to "tuck" it, and when you say to hardnose it? Sorry, im a little new and havent done this before, but I have been around derbies quite a bit. thanks for the help. by tucking a wagon he means sedagon it. just like the black car at top of this page. hardnosing is where you weld bumper directly to the frame, everyone has there ways of doing so using bumper shocks or etc, but i myself beat some metal into front frame section then weld bumper to frame and have fun
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Post by Hillbilly Racing .30-30 on Sept 7, 2011 14:07:55 GMT -5
With tucking I had metric sedans in mind, those are just the general rules for the backs of these GMs. I personally dont sedagon them, but to each their own. Hardnosing looks a little something like this. . .
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Post by Nebraska State Rep on Sept 7, 2011 15:03:44 GMT -5
hardnosing is where you weld bumper directly to the frame, everyone has there ways of doing so using bumper shocks or etc, but i myself beat some metal into front frame section then weld bumper to frame and have fun What do you mean beat metal INTO the frame? are you talking the bumper cans? I am not seeing how you beat metal from the bumper into the frame. Unless your talking about slicing frame corners off then taking the pieces and roll them into the frame and then wild bumper? Just trying to get clarification, thanks.
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Post by snitily19 on Sept 7, 2011 15:40:24 GMT -5
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Post by Crownvic891 on Sept 7, 2011 18:02:37 GMT -5
hardnosing is where you weld bumper directly to the frame, everyone has there ways of doing so using bumper shocks or etc, but i myself beat some metal into front frame section then weld bumper to frame and have fun What do you mean beat metal INTO the frame? are you talking the bumper cans? I am not seeing how you beat metal from the bumper into the frame. Unless your talking about slicing frame corners off then taking the pieces and roll them into the frame and then wild bumper? Just trying to get clarification, thanks. no i dont use shocks i beat round stock into the frame to make it tougher the n weld bumper on directly to frame
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Post by derby2racer on Sept 8, 2011 9:17:35 GMT -5
I have had a couple people mention that I should sedagon it. What do you guys think? and can anyone give me a couple general steps on how to do this? i know what a sedagon is, but i am not sure exactly how to do it.
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